User talk:DesertMoh

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Hassan Mohamed Hassan

Hello. All images on this article are labeled as being freely licenced under the GFDL. Can you please provide proof that the painter has indeed done this? If not, the images may be deleted as copyright violations. Sandstein 18:31, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey Sandstein. He died and I am one of his inheriting grandsons. I own the licence of my own photos but am actually a little bit unclear about the GFDL. I know it means that anybody can use the images which I agree to, but don't know how to prove it. Any advice here is highly apprciated. --DesertMoh 22:15, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi. What you should do (I think) is post a brief explanation on the image pages (along the lines of: I am the heir to the painter and I have inherited the copyright, I'm freely licencing the pictures), along with your username. You should also enable an e-mail address in your preferences so that anyone who disputes the copyright may contact you. – As to the discussion below, I'll have to agree with Thomas: all Wikipedia content must be attributed to a reliable published source, whether or not it is from the third world, or it may be deleted. That's a basic policy of Wikipedia; we can't change it. Best, Sandstein 05:00, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Hassan Mohamed Hassan

Hi there, I appreaciate the work of your grandfather. However, what I deleted is very Point of View (as opposed to what we want, Neutral Point of View). "Typical of the vogue of the day at Cairo, he has been noted for his patriotism through the seeking of a modern identity of the nation embedded in both heritage and modernity." is, in my view, uncited opinion, as is much of the article. The entire section "Human Universality and Local Causes" is without cited sources. It is all opinion and probably should be removed unless you can find citations for it. Parts of it are well written, it just needs a lot of clean-up and vetting. It is probably a good idea to solicit other editors to help in that process. If you have any other questions, feel free to let me know.--Thomas.macmillan 02:01, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Family as source good enough for Wikipedia?

Dear Thomas, Here is information: welcome to the third world where formal literature is lacking that I --myself-- might not exist! :) Here is one case where Hassan has almost been skipped by all historians of Egyptian art, and what remains is only his works that I hope you won't delete from the image repository which has never been published anywhere else in print or on the web. I am well aware of the criticism of wikipedia and I am willing to 'do' something but not the citing of references which I and the family cannot produce.

Now here is my question: can our 'family' be an authentic reference good enough for wikipedia? could that stop others from the deletion of this paragraph or others? if that is not so, then now I understand why not many Egyptian artists are represented on wikipedia (and perhaps never will).

I am quite thankful for your early intervention. If I have started sending the link around for publicity and then much was deleted, I would have been disappointed and emabrrassed to the bones. Thanks again for the goodwill.

--DesertMoh 02:14, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

• Dear Moh,

My feeling is that no, family cannot be an authentic source. Consider reading WP:SOURCE and WP:COI. I am well aware of the excruciating lack of formal sources for a huge amount of important people in the so-called third world. If you view my user page, you can see that I've been to Egypt (2 months in Cairo during the summer of 2005) and that I have created who knows how many unique articles, mostly biographies on "third world" people. However, I am not really a definitive source on wikipedia policy. My suggestion to you is to consult administrators and people who have written the policy etc. They can give you a more complete answer on this difficult question. My apologies--Thomas.macmillan 02:41, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

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Possibly unfree File:Hassanein1924natgeog-p251-theodolite.jpg

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File permission problem with File:HassanMohamedHassan-IntellectualPioneer.jpg

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Balliol College, Oxford

Hi, I would like to explain my revert of your edit rewording the paragraph in the lead about the college's alumni. My reason was that the rewording was not an improvement and I don't think Ahmed Hassanein belongs in the lead.

Firstly, your rewording separates alumni into living and dead subcategories, which is an unnecessary complication and would need to be updated when any of them died.

Secondly, Ahmed Hassanein is not as well known as the other names in the lead. Also, the lead summarises information in the body of the article, In this case the section Balliol College, Oxford#People associated with Balliol, so alumni names should be added to the people section before adding them to the lead. TSventon (talk) 23:43, 6 March 2021 (UTC).