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Promenade de Verdun War Memorial

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Not heard of this one before. Do any of your books have anything on it? Oddly, Pevsner doesn't mention it, though it does cover Woodcote. KJP1 (talk) 07:31, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@KJP1 Pevsner can be hit and miss on memorials that aren't by famous architects/sculptors. Leave it with me for a few days and I'll see if I can find anything. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:37, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just a note to keep this from being archived. I haven't forgotten. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:08, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TFA

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story · music · places

Thank you today for Shooting of Stephen Waldorf, introduced: "London. 1983. A police task force is hunting a dangerous escaped criminal. Thinking they've got their man, they follow a car through the West End. When the car grinds to a halt in traffic, an armed officer moves in to confirm their suspect's identity. Apparently believing his quarry has recognised him, the officer opens fire without warning. Two more armed officers join in the shooting and, having run out of ammunition, the first officer begins clubbing the man with the butt of his revolver. Only afterwards do the officers realise that the man, who survived but suffered five bullet wounds and a broken skull, is not the escaped criminal David Martin but a 26-year-old film editor named Stephen Waldorf. There was considerable outcry in the public and the press. Two police officers were charged with (but acquitted of) attempted murder and the British government rapidly initiated reforms to police firearms policy."! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:32, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Harry, the above article drew my attention immediately; I checked the FAC and saw it was one of yours. Congratulations on a well-written and compelling article on a relatively unknown incident (at least to me!). I have a copy of London's Armed Police that has sat in my reading pile for years, I might now shuffle it towards the top! - Dumelow (talk) 09:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dumelow thank you. That means a lot, especially coming from someone whose FAs I've admired! The book is worth a read but is obviously dated now. I've done a handful of police shootings. The politics around them in the UK is interesting and they're the sort of subject that's important to cover but that tends to be forgotten with time, at least until the next mistake. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:57, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shooting of Stephen Waldorf

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Hi, can you explain to me why you consider 5 links in 6 sentences to be overlinking regarding the shooting of Stephen Waldorf? This isn't a case of excessive linking, but rather the normal amount for WP versus no links at all in the lead section. It doesn't meet "inline links present relatively small tap targets on touchscreen devices, placing several separate inline links close together within a section of text can make navigation more difficult for readers with limited dexterity or coordination" either. –Tobias (talk) 13:12, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tobias, I removed the links because in my opinion none of them would add to the reader's understanding and would distract from the article. Police officer, bullet wound, attempted murder, and fractured skull for example are all self-explanatory. The remaining link was attempting to shoehorn something in that's not clear to the reader (an Easter egg link). That link is already in the see also section, which makes it much clearer to readers wishing to explore the topic further. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:48, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How is that different from 'revolver,' 'gunsmith', or 'pistol-whipping'? While they are all self-explanatory, they hide more complex topics such as attempted murder (by jurisdiction) or skull fractures (and medical associations) that can be interesting to explore when reading the article. Nonetheless, you're right about the Easter egg link. –Tobias (talk) 21:25, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've learnt that revolver is not as commonly understood as I used to think. The other two could probably go without any loss to the reader. It's true that the links lead to articles that explore those topics in more detail but at this point in Wikipedia's history, that would be true of just about any noun if you put square brackets round it, so I tend to focus on the things that aren't well known and which might add helpful context. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:33, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't bet on that. 'Revolver' is factually far more common than 'handgun', so everyone who knows the latter, knows the former too, but not the other way around. You might just have encountered the wrong people for your survey. Technically, you can hyperlink every word, but I'm focusing on the most prominent ones to avoid cluttering a paragraph with links and removing all of them, while maintaining a good balance. That's why only the first location, for example in birthplaces or similar contexts, is linked—not everything following the first city, but also not nothing, regardless of the city's prominence. –Tobias (talk) 10:03, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More information about banned user IP

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Recently I came across some pretty intentionally wrong edits of the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Terrorism_Index. They changed the top entry of the index list from Burkina Faso to Israel. From the diffs, the user was not that experienced in Wiki Editing. Their IP is in the range you blocked, 106.222.208.0/22, so I was wondering what that whole thing is about. I'm also pretty new to Wiki Editing, so feel free to tell me how wrong I'm doing this. IOSOVI (talk) 11:36, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TPA

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Greetings HJ Mitchell. Could you please revoke talk page access for Anamya1? You spamublock-ed them but they're continuing to spam their talk page even after that. Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted their spam. Let's hope they don't continue to spam it again. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 14:24, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Drm310, @NoobThreePointOh thank you bith. TPA yanked. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:25, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 19 October 2024

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