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Thriller 140 million????[edit]

It's evident that is an error. It was 104 and for error the reporter wrote 140. Also if you watch the certifications, it's impossible! - Simone Jackson (talk)

Well certifications mean very little, they are not necessarily an accurate way to work out somebodies sales. As for a typing error, we have know way of knowing that. — R2 17:56, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Realist, if until November 2006, Thriller sold 104 million copies, it's impossible that sold 36 million copies in 1 year. It's an error, it was 104 and the reporter wrote 140. - Simone Jackson (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 18:10, 9 February 2009 (UTC).[reply]

We have no way of proving it was an error sorry. Remember, Wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth. It's just a claim (made by a reliable source), and it's treated as such. — R2 18:41, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is a prove http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/21666790#21666790 In this video MSNBC says 104 million copies, not 140 million copies. This video was with the article. - Simone Jackson (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 19:45, 9 February 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Well, I can't personally watch the video, I don't know why, but I'll take your word for it. We will take it back down to 109 million. — R2 19:57, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to watch this video, you can try with Explorer or disable antivirus. - Simone Jackson (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 20:03, 9 February 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Just a heads up[edit]

Be on the lookout for any of these guys. This guy already "protested" the changes of number-ones lists (to the tables with images) and left some rants on the Project Talk Pages: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Record Charts#Format changes from lists to tables. Basically what he is doing is reverting the articles, then copying all the text (in its old format) and creating new articles with a variation on the name, like "List of 2003". If you place warnings on his page, he'll then copy all the contents onto your talk page and on his talk page and on his user page, wherever he can put it. I've had to block and also give full protection to his pages and delete a number of articles he created; it's ridiculous. Soooo... just be on the lookout, check User Contributions, report to AIV, whatever. Later! - eo (talk) 23:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Will do, I look forward to meeting him, I seem to bump into all the nutjobs at some point. — R2 11:08, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please, Please[edit]

Please, please stop User:Dance-pop. Its getting out of control!!!. Sometimes he is inserting multiple same references, sometimes forgetting to sign, sometimes inserting blog links, i can't handle it alone!!!! Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee "Legolas" (talk) 04:34, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK,OK, I'll take a look, although I got tired of watching those article last time remember, they attract too many nutty contributions for my liking. — R2 11:08, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
He, he. Efe has left a warning to the user (which i don't think is gonna affect). In the meantime just keep an eye. I'm doing hte best i can to revert bad changes, but even my watchlist is so full now!!! I have other works at GA in the WP:books so its getting out of control. Especially today was really downer. Each and every time this user and an IP, were editing pages related to GaGa and adding unsolicited info, or repeating same source multiple times, or no edit summary, or no signing posts. Obviously warnings resulted in abuse. Don't know what to do dude!! "Legolas" (talk) 12:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GAN[edit]

Well done. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 05:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cherry Tree[edit]

Did you see this article about the Lady GaGa EP? It has all links related to Amazon and iTunes. Do you think its valid? "Legolas" (talk) 06:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well I was redirecting it until notability was asserted, but you can't stop the masses anymore. Best bet is to wait a few months till the interest dies down and consider redirecting then, if notability is still not asserted. — R2 11:08, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Anyways I'm doing my best for the GaGa and Britney articles. By the way congrats on your recent FL articles taht you and Efe worked!! "Legolas" (talk) 12:15, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GaGa madness[edit]

Some IP is continuously adding bad sources in the associated act for the Lady GaGa page. What to do? "Legolas" (talk) 12:38, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I requested page protection, which was successful. — R2 14:17, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dance-pop[edit]

A little heads up. I was checking hte history pages for Lady GaGa, Dance-pop may remove the protection from the page. I won't be here tomorrow so asking you to keep a lookout. They are getting mad to add those links which we are deleting. "Legolas" (talk) 12:00, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He can't remove the protection, he can request unprotection but it's unlikely to be successful. At this moment I'm beginning to think him and that IP are the same person. — R2 12:02, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You know what, i think the same too. Wherever that guy comments something, immediately the IP comes and responds and they support each other too much. And he was particluarly furious for adding the protection as the IP cannot access it! Put these points in front of him and he will start abusing you. "Legolas" (talk) 12:08, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm working on it, stay tuned. — R2 12:09, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
By the way for the fourth single LoveGame, i think it is releasing now because a NY Times article also mentioned it being the third NA single. I think its time we can revert the page back. What do you think? "Legolas" (talk) 12:13, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not yet, there's no rush, but soon, maybe. — R2 12:15, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Email[edit]

Just activated it now. I'll give you it here anyway - lt_v@hotmail.co.uk Pyrrhus16 12:55, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Received and responded. :) Pyrrhus16 14:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Responded to. --Efe (talk) 06:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Jackson's hands[edit]

This is the latest non-notable gossip about MJ. Also, a link here suggesting that no-one shold hold their breath while waiting for the Thriller show on Broadway.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 13:57, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've created an article for the E.T. soundtrack and submitted it at DYK. I don't think there's anymore info on this, but if there is just add it in. Pyrrhus16 16:22, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. — R2 20:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edit War[edit]

Blocked, block me account then, its because you cant, I have done nothing wrong, You have NO power over me Realist. So you just stay were you are and be queit. You got it. Ok. Kind Regards. Dance-pop (talk) 03:23, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just a heads up. Again started the addition of bad sources to the GaGa articles to prove his point. "Legolas" (talk) 05:49, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How you were saying about getting an article to WP:GA; do you think this meets the standards to pass? I've added content but I'm not sure it's long enough. Pyrrhus16 18:29, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely not long enough yet, it's an iconic song so there should be lot's of information available on it. Keep building it up though. Good luck. — R2 18:38, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Will do. Cheers. Pyrrhus16 18:40, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GaGa[edit]

It is more than a reliable source, it is from entertainment weekly by the way, I HAVE always suggested relable sources. It is a mag article (journalistic approach) therefore it IS reliable! I know it was a good idea. Thanks. :)Dance-pop (talk) 03:53, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Look at this. Man! I can't control it. Should i raise an ANI? "Legolas" (talk) 04:28, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hah, you were right about Dance-pop and that IP! Responding to the same thing and same kinda response!! "Legolas" (talk) 05:34, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I just read what sockpupperty is. Why the f**** would I do that. So tell me how to get my IP I will check, if its mine(other people in my household go on to wiki notably my bro) .Dance-pop (talk) 07:08, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Again me with images, lol: do you think that the new version of Legolas looks good? And he has the permition to add brightness on images from other authors? Renanx3 (talk) 15:41, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see nothing wrong with the arrangement of the images, but I do not understand the rules surrounding alterations to colors. With regard to the color alteration, you should ask User:Giggy, by sending him a well written, coherent message, so that he understands the situation. Also send him a direct link to the image in question. Best. — R2 15:47, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This time I will not contest, if you are saying that is nothing wrong I will shut my mouth and I'm no longer bother anyone. OMG! You do not understand something on wikipedia? I really need print this, it's a sinal of apocalypse!
Me and my unfun kiddings. Thanks for the warning I will do this. :) Renanx3 (talk) 16:12, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, there are loads of things I don't know. Wikipedia is huge, there are so many rules and guidelines. I learn something new every day. :) — R2 16:14, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If U Seek Amy[edit]

Now the image??

Just to let you know that I've passed "Blood on the Dance Floor" for GA. Good work Realist Squared. And now I know what scientific pitch notation is. Although I'm not going to look into it in any depth lest my head explode. Cavie78 (talk) 23:23, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Me neither lol, thanks for the review. — R2 23:25, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

lovegame[edit]

A heads up. LoveGame (Lady GaGa Song) was redirected to the album page by me. Is it fine? "Legolas" (talk) 06:47, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, is good. — R2 12:00, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Hello Realist2, I would like to talk to you about your recent edits for Lady GaGa esp. the song LoveGame--could you please put the pages you removed back OR I WILL. If you would like to change or delete please disscuss at the song page you deleted. And please give appropriate edit summary make it short simple and give a reson to why. Thanks, you fav. user(sarcasm) Dance-pop.;)Dance-pop (talk) 04:07, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If u seek amy[edit]

Hey why did u revert my updation of the peak point there? The source was pointing there. "Legolas" (talk) 05:19, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The source used at the time was a permanent link, thus it displayed 88, not 80. — R2 15:05, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Eh Eh[edit]

A concern has been raised at Talk:Eh, Eh (Nothing Else I Can Say)#Genre. Can you please give your input on this? "Legolas" (talk) 06:51, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You have a fan[edit]

You might want to say something about this. I have to admit, I'm curious as to the scale these things are measured in, and exactly how I wound up being quite so worthless in comparison to your shining glory.—Kww(talk) 14:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lol, that was priceless. My suspicions are that it is Europop, personally, I can't believe there is such a "genre". Eek, and there was me thinking he hated my very presence. — R2 14:29, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I notice that you didn't disavow his view of our comparative abilities, though, Oh Mighty One. I guess I probably wouldn't have, either ... it's nice to have worshipers.—Kww(talk) 14:48, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
O.o Well, I wish I did have worshipers....haven't you heard, I plan to overthrow Jimbo as the supreme ruler of the Wiki. — R2 15:30, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know, doing a Google search, there are 516,000 results for Kww and only 1,070 for Realist2, making Kww 482 times better. Useight (talk) 03:35, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help[edit]

I hope you can help, But the you have a fan edits-um....Anyway do you know how I could change the pic on Lady GaGa disocgraphy. Thanks I have tryed before but I cant, the pic is disgustingDance-pop (talk) 02:59, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Returned from my Wikibreak[edit]

Hello! I have returned from my wikibreak, but won't edit with as much frequency as before. I just wanted to tell you that I've read your review of the article No Jacket Required on its talkpage, and will take a look at your concerns when I get the deadlinks fixed in the article, of which there are many. Thank you and have a good day. CarpetCrawler (talk) 00:42, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, please stay in touch and call me back when you've done those corrections. If you need any help with anything, feel free to contact me here or privately. Nice to see you back, all the best. — R2 01:13, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GaGa BDR[edit]

Hi. Could you please help me with this page for deletion-Lady GaGa BDR Deletion page, could you please review it thanks.Dance-pop (talk) 03:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm back[edit]

Hey i'm back!! How was your weekend and what did you do on Valentine's day? "Legolas" (talk) 04:55, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thanks[edit]

You may find Talk:Tina_Turner#Lead_section_issues enlightening. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 23:41, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that, I think his edits need to be monitored in case this spills further. — R2 00:00, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, Ha[edit]

I just loved your edit summary. He he. --Legolas!! (talktome) 12:22, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but seriously, it really is a tacky website. #1 on my hate list is perezhilton.com — R2 12:24, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Infact i wasnot sure about its authenticity, hence put the dailymail ref, which is far more reliable according to me.--Legolas!! (talktome) 12:28, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More Tina Turner[edit]

I've never been involved in, or started an RfC/User Conduct and I'm not really sure how to proceed on this. As you've noted, this is an issue on more than one page and the editor involved has ignored consensus, ignored totally valid points offered by a myriad of editors and still proceeds to do as she chooses. She's basically declared war on FA and GA articles and called them "crap" at one point. I'd appreciate any assistance you might offer on how to proceed on this. Is this something for RfC/User conduct or is there a more appropriate venue to discuss this problem? Wildhartlivie (talk) 20:40, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've given him/her a warning about what will happen if this continues. Hopeful he will stop editting against consensus. If not, we will have to do something (I'm already doing some reading around, looking for the best venue). — R2 20:43, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please let me know what you found out. Perhaps a complaint on a wider scale than one article would be more effective. She's already posted responses. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:54, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This is out of control. Wildhartlivie (talk) 00:18, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Real, the above article's deletion request has been closed citing no consensus. Can you tell me what to do with the article now? There are very few authenticable sources in it to warrant a separate page and nothing in the article complies WP:SONG. Shall we redirect it? --Legolas!! (talktome) 06:01, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Take a look at this Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dance-pop. --Legolas!! (talktome) 06:08, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If nothing in the song complies with SONG, the admin should have deleted it, regardless of how the votes went, but hey that's just my opinion. Your best bet is to start another AfD in 8 weeks, assuming the article doesn't improve. — R2 08:39, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ohh, k. I think a merge is also acceptable. I have raised a section on the article's talk page. Please share your inputs. Based on it i will decide. Dance-pop has been banned for a month from editing, hence i don't think any other improvement will hapeen to the article. --Legolas!! (talktome) 10:02, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stop trolling[edit]

Don't do this again, it's completely unacceptable behavior. — R2 11:54, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for my ignorance, but I didn't understand what I did. Renanx3 (talk) 14:04, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Taunted someoen after they were blocked, calling them a loser.That's abosolutly dispicable behaviour.--Pattont/c 14:28, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oh my god. Please guys, take a look on the "discussion" again, I am begging:
Yay know were friends, not. You are just a loser, a fricken loser. And about the funny, honey that was sarcasm. P.S. You are such a loser. Thats why I always get my way Dance-pop (talk) 03:33, 9 February 2009 (UTC) link
That was sarcasm? I didn't know! How mean you are! I was so stupid to not understand.
Freakin' loser? Sweetheart, now you offended me, I am really sad with you. :( I would love report this but I know (actually, everybody here) you can be blocked or most probably banned for many others reasons, why waste my time? Renanx3 (talk) 19:28, 15 February 2009 (UTC) link
He ha. Your recent edits on my page will get you blocked. Calling me a 'fricken loser'--abuse alert. Im not your 'sweetheart' who do you think you are. Try to block me, you cant. I said it was Just jokes, so calm down. You take things too serious. C ya.Dance-pop (talk) 03:53, 16 February 2009 (UTC) link
You should report it, because they will see who called who a freakin' loser. I'm sorry for took it seriously, normally people do so when they are called loser. And yes, you're right, I can't block you, even I want it with all my strength I can't do this. However I think that he can, and actually he already did it. I hope you enjoy this month away from Wikipedia; read a book, watch TV or whatever, my sweeheart. Oops! Went unconsciously, sorry. Renanx3 (talk) 17:58, 20 February 2009 (UTC) link

I NEVER called him a loser, as you can see he called me a loser and also a friken loser and I just stated he offended me. Renanx3 (talk) 17:27, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits to his user page have bee reverted by someone else, unfortunately it does look like your wee taunting him after he was blocked, I'm sorry if this was not your intention, but that is how it appears. Just move on and continue to contribute in a good way :) — R2 17:36, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
But what exactly I said to made you think that I am tauting him? I don't want people thinking that I insulted him when I didn't. I tried the most to don't say any insult while he threw stones and more stones, and now someone tell me to "don't insult blocked users." You know, it is very upsetness. :/ Renanx3 (talk) 18:09, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
My advise to you would be to ignore Dancepop all together (I did a long time ago), he was clearly baiting you. However saying you would like him permanently banned etc, will only inflame the situation. — R2 18:17, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Smile![edit]

Lady Gaga real name[edit]

How we know that this girl in the US Government Copyright is our Gaga, uh? lol Now serious, I admit that it is a big coincidence. So it means that the real name war is finally over with a unheard result? Sparks Fly 02:15, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think the source it rather conclusive. I think the issue is dealt with. — R2 02:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The genre field[edit]

Hi. I saw your last comment on the Music project. I'm wondering, have you tried taking this up at the level of the individual music projects you're involved in? Some of the classical music projects have solved the problem that way. After our last experience I'm convinced that the Music project is the wrong level for this. Best regards. --Kleinzach 03:17, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Billie Jean[edit]

I've cleaned up the Billie Jean article and wondered if you think it will pass WP:GA. If so, I'll add it to WP:GAN tomorrow, after I've had some sleep. :) Pyrrhus16 20:56, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I can tell you've done a lot of work, I'm very busy at the moment (in real life), too busy to read through the article. It's huge, and bigger articles can be a challenge. Could you give me a few days to read over it? I can have a really good look read and get back to you by Wednesday night? Well done. — R2 21:10, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, there's no rush. Thanks. Pyrrhus16 16:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism warning request[edit]

Hi R2, I just reversed some vandalism for the film "Jumpin' Jack Flash". Would you please send the vandal a warning?

Thanks so much!!! LA Movie Buff (talk) 21:16, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. — R2 21:21, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just busted another vandal. Please send warning. It was at List of African-American Firsts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_firsts.

Thanks, W2! LA Movie Buff (talk) 07:54, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. — R2 12:54, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi R2,

Under the entry for "The Brady Bunch", somebody expressed a personal opinion about their favorite episode. I reverted it. Would you please send them a notification? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brady_Bunch

Thanks much. LA Movie Buff (talk) 17:33, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done, no problem. — R2 18:02, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think the Afd nomination of the above article is valid? The reason given for nomination is so very strange. Can you please share your thoughts at the discussion page? --Legolas!! (talktome) 11:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Hey i have a question to ask. You know i haven't been on wikipedia for long, and am still learning stuff here. What do you think of my edits here? Are they fine? Or what improvements can i insert while editing? I'm just looking for an opinion. He he. --Legolas!! (talktome) 12:17, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I won't comment at the AfD, I have personal feelings about articles on tours. Your editing is really improving, keep it up. :) — R2 12:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Heads up guys. --Efe (talk) 00:22, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look, this might give us an opportunity to touch the article up a little anyway, it has been a little neglected recently, due to all the new events. — R2 00:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Request to stop editing cause of death of a recently deceased person[edit]

Hello - somebody has been making edits to the cause of death of a recently deceased person: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louie_Bellson

I know the family, and I am going to his memorial service today. The family is taking this very hard. Out of sensitivity to the family, would you please ask this person to stop making speculations about the exact cause of his death? It doesn't really matter.

Thanks!!! LA Movie Buff (talk) 19:59, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look. — R2 20:02, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much! You are the best. LA Movie Buff (talk) 21:09, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Edits[edit]

Okay, i rewrote the 1987-1991 entry, added soures for stuff that I think needed them that u might have deemed controversial, not sure u didn't say what u had problem with that needed sources. and u delete it again saying largely unsourced. re-read what I wrote and the largely unsourced stuff are album charting and sales, tour info with line-up and where he toured, releasing of albums and band line-up change. please tell me what i have that u have problem with that needs souring so i can make the approiate ref notations. Antpooh (talk) 20:54, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All the info needs sourcing. You added 7,000 bytes of information with minimal sourcing, to certain minor pieces. Please work on the material, finding all the sources, before you reinsert. Thanks. — R2 20:58, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

what do u want me to add source/ref to. The dates and release of albums, how the albums and songs charted and tour line-ups as those are the only things not sourced. The things sourced are stuff that would be deemed speculative, which i gave the source/ref info. for. So can u please tell me what needs to have a source/ref so i can make the proper edits and post this info? Antpooh (talk) 22:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have a read over your post and add a reply here tomorrow. I'm going offline soon. — R2 22:36, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here's another re-write, please tel me where sources/ref need to be so I can make the proper edit:

I've moved the info here and will study it shortly. At the moments it's late and I have an early morning. — R2 22:49, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Check here and here. — R2 20:47, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Billie Jean GAN[edit]

Nice work! --Hunter Kahn (talk) 22:37, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I didn't do much, just some copy editing and a preliminary review before P16 sent it over to GAN. He get's the credit for this one. :) — R2 22:39, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fun idea[edit]

I was thinking about this while taking a look at the Billie Jean article which you helped contribute to. Would you like to colloborate with me on an article? Whatever article, we can both work on it and nominate it for GA or something like that. I'm not too good at writing, but I am very good at research, and I am nearby a local college campus (Where I'm a part-time student) that has an archive of Newsday, as well as some archives of The New York Times. It's just an idea that I'm floating around, and thought you'd be interested. Don't worry if you're not up to it. :) Have a nice day! CarpetCrawler (talk) 22:41, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would love to, any ideas on the topic? — R2 22:42, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't matter to me. Whatever you want. Probably a music related topic though. :) Have a nice day! CarpetCrawler (talk) 23:17, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I've had a few ideas kicking around, all of them would be major jobs: The Jackson 5, Prince (musician) or the more controversial (yet interesting) Living with Michael Jackson. Thoughts? — R2 23:24, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
When I get the chance to go on campus later this week, I will head over to the campus library and see what information they have available on the Living with Michael Jackson special (I agree that would be one of the more interesting topics. :)) and then we'll see how it goes from there. I should hopefully find something. How does that sound? :) Have a nice day! CarpetCrawler (talk) 06:53, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've got one book that deals with it rather neutrally (well, slightly anti Jackson, but it's quite hard to find any mainstream neutral press when it comes to him). Fancy starting in the Easter holiday? I gotta do some work at the moment. — R2 11:18, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sure! Take as much time as needed to do what you gotta do. :) CarpetCrawler (talk) 18:02, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I'll get back to you in 2/3 weeks. Plenty of time to do some research b4 hand. — R2 19:02, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of a "single"[edit]

Since you are 1000 times better than me, I'd appreciate your opinion here. The controversy centers upon exactly how we define a "single", and whether "No Love" by Simple Plan counts.—Kww(talk) 00:30, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Come on, I have some modesty. — R2 00:47, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • shuffles in* Me personally, I always thought a single was something released in some way, shape or form by the band. Has the band officially announced that it's a single, yet? If not, then it's not a single. CarpetCrawler (talk) 01:06, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Who am I to argue with [Dance-pop]? He apparently possesses the official yardstick.—Kww(talk) 01:40, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm thinking of taking these to AFD, can't find any reliable sources asserting notability. Just wanted to see if you have any objections first. Pyrrhus16 12:56, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you can't find sources in google, google news or google books, I see no problem nominating them. Best. — R2 14:15, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, will do. Pyrrhus16 14:17, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lady GaGa[edit]

Hi, so I figured I would let you review this since you seem to have a a good sense of what is or isn't appropriate. I've re-enterd some info about Lady GaGa and The Starlight review with new sources. Some of the info was already in the article but was supported by a video so it was deleted. My edits keep getting reverted by the same guy that HATES the picture I uploaded. He says none of this info is notable. I believe it is since more that one publication is writing about GaGa and Starlights time performing together. Could you please review it and let me know if it should or shouldn't be in the article. I truly value your opinion about these things. You seem pretty fair. Thanks so much!! Jemgrrrl (talk) 18:24, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Throughout 2007, Lady Gaga collaborated with the similarly named Lower East Side Rock DJ, go-go dancer and performance artist Lady Starlight, who helped Gaga create her onstage fashions.[1] The pair began playing gigs at downtown club venues like Mercury Lounge, The Bitter End, and Rockwood Music Hall[2], with their live performance art piece, "Lady Gaga and The Starlight Revue"[3]. Billed as "The Ultimate Pop Burlesque RockShow"[4], it was a low-fi tribute to 1970's variety acts which featured Lady Gaga on synth, Lady Starlight spinning beats, choreographed go-go moves, shiny disco balls, and hairspray, lit on fire and sprayed into the audience.[5] In August 2007, Lady Gaga and The Starlight Revue were invited to play at American music festival Lollapalooza, where they shocked audiences with their wild performance.[6] Their show, however, may have been overshadowed by Gaga’s brush with the law—she received an indecent exposure citation from a bicycle cop for wearing "hot pants".[6] Despite this incident, the show was critically acclaimed and Gaga's perfomance received rave reviews.[7][2]

Some parts I don't think are needed

  • "which featured Lady Gaga on synth, Lady Starlight spinning beats, choreographed go-go moves, shiny disco balls, and hairspray, lit on fire and sprayed into the audience".
  • Their show, however, may have been overshadowed by Gaga’s brush with the law—she received an indecent exposure citation from a bicycle cop for wearing "hot pants".

I see no problem with the rest, assuming it's not already in the article. I would discourage you edit warring over the issue, since your very close to WP:3RR. — R2 18:38, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Could you please re-add it to the article? If I do I know I will just get reverted again..... Jemgrrrl (talk) 18:42, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Start a discussion on the talk page, mentioning the text you want to add (remove the info I suggested). I'll voice my approval. — R2 18:44, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I stared a discussion.....thanks again!! Jemgrrrl (talk) 19:07, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Np problem, I'm archiving this page because it's very long. Best. — R2 19:16, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Cassis, Christine (2009). "2009: Keep your ears open to this music". Blast Magazine. Retrieved 2009-02-26. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)
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  3. ^ Lee, Ann (2009). "Just Who Is Lady GaGa?". Metro.co.uk. Retrieved 2009-02-26. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)
  4. ^ "Lady Gaga". BMI. 2007. Retrieved 2009-02-26. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)
  5. ^ Martin, Charlotte (2009). "GaGa: On stripping, drugs and No 1s". The Sun. Retrieved 2009-02-26. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)
  6. ^ a b D'Souza, Nandini (2007). "Going Ga-Ga for Lady Gaga". W. Retrieved 2009-01-03. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)
  7. ^ Cite error: The named reference Bio was invoked but never defined (see the help page).