User talk:Shawnborgia

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Your recent edit(s) to List of social networking websites

I have reverted your addition to List of social networking websites. In the future, please only place entries there that are wikilinks to actual Wikipedia articles about notable social networking sites. External links, redlinks, substubs, non-notable sites or things that are not social networking sites will be removed. If you have questions, use the talk page. Your cooperation on this matter will help prevent the article from being protected again. Thanks. --Czj 07:50, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

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AfD nomination of Franchise Circle

An editor has nominated Franchise Circle, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not"). Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Franchise Circle and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. Jayden54Bot 15:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Your creation of Franchise Circle.com

A tag has been placed on Franchise Circle.com, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article is a repost of either already posted material, or of material that was previously deleted in a deletion debate, such as articles for deletion. If you can indicate how Franchise Circle.com is different from all other articles, or if you can indicate why this article should not be deleted, I advise you to place the template {{hangon}} underneath the other template on the article, and also put a note on Talk:Franchise Circle.com saying why this article should stay. An admin should check for such edits before deleting the article. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Please read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 4 under General criteria. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. We welcome your help in trying to improve Wikipedia, and we ask you to follow these instructions. NipokNek 10:54, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Franchise Circle.com

I only tagged it, I'm not the one who deleted it. And you only want to edit peoples Talk: pages, Not their User: Pages. NipokNek 11:07, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Notability

I believe this article is extremely notable, probably more notable than LinkedIn, or other articles on social networking sites. The reason why is that there is no social networking site for franchising right now, nor is there one within the franchise sphers that permits user generated content.

Ahh. I see. I didn't see a + sign next to your 'Talk' page. Sorry about that :)

Article Changes

What can I change in this article to adhere to Wikipedia's standards? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Shawnborgia 11:10, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Franchise Circle.com

I am afraid I have deleted this article again and blocked to prevent re-creation of an article with this name. It is clear from the above comments that you do not understand what Wikipedia means by notability. Please read WP:N. Until your website has been around enough to have attracted review articles in newspapers or similar (not blogs) I am afraid that Wikipedia will not allow an article on it. Meanwhile, welcome to Wikipedia and I hope that with time when you have understood the guidelines your contributions will be valuable to us --BozMo talk 11:13, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and if you are convinced I have made a mistake and you already have lots of news sources talking about you, drop some details and I will be delighted to unblock the page. --BozMo talk 11:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Newspaper Article

Thanks for the information. I posted a scanned newspaper review of the article prior to this. If its in the newspapers, doesnt that make it notable?

Notability

Thanks for the information. I posted a scanned newspaper review of the article prior to this. If its in the newspapers, doesnt that make it notable?

Shawnborgia 11:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

It depends on the newspaper of course. Where is the scan? --BozMo talk 11:19, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

New Canaan Advertiser Article

Hi,

Thanks for getting back. I put a link to the physical PDF of the scan on the last deleted Franchise Circle article. I also uploaded it to the sandbox to that last deleted article. Can you check in there with your administrative access? I can't seem to find it. I guess I can also email it to you if you can send me your email.

As far as more articles if you type in FranchiseCircle.com into Google, I found several and will look again for some more.

Please let me know if this works.

Thanks!

Shawnborgia 11:28, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi,

Thanks for getting back. I put a link to the physical PDF of the scan on the last deleted Franchise Circle article. I also uploaded it to the sandbox to that last deleted article. Can you check in there with your administrative access? I can't seem to find it. I guess I can also email it to you if you can send me your email.

As far as more articles if you type in FranchiseCircle.com into Google, I found several and will look again for some more.

Please let me know if this works.

Thanks! Shawnborgia 03:51, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Again,

The scan of the newspaper article is available here. http://www.candybouquet.com/New_Canaan_Advertiser_Article_FC.pdf

The New Canaan Advertisers has a distribution of about 100,000 throughout Fairfield County, CT.

www.ncadvertiser.com

Please see what you can do about getting our knowledge resource up. I have a lot more I wanted to write about, including some linking resources (Candy Bouquet; Relationship Capital; IFA).

Sincerely yours,

Shawn Ames

New Canaan Advertiser Article

Hi Again,

The scan of the newspaper article is available here. http://www.candybouquet.com/New_Canaan_Advertiser_Article_FC.pdf

The New Canaan Advertisers has a distribution of about 100,000 throughout Fairfield County, CT.

www.ncadvertiser.com

Please see what you can do about getting our knowledge resource up. I have a lot more I wanted to write about, including some linking resources (Candy Bouquet; Relationship Capital; IFA).

Sincerely yours,

Shawn Ames Shawnborgia 03:58, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Shawn, In principle I am always happy to try to help get good content up on Wikipedia, but there are vast numbers of websites trying to get up and the rules put them through all sorts of hoops. Admins have limited discretion when things are marginal and follow the rules.

I have unblocked the page so you can try to put something up. An article "making no claim to notability" will get speedy deleted again.

If you put in a claim for notability based on this newspaper then in theory it should survive the speedy process and it will probably go through a longer process because someone will nominate it for "AfD" and people vote on whether it is sufficiently notable. The fact it has been speedied twice means there is a risk people might not read it properly so include an edit comment of "Created with basis for notability" and hope.

If I were you I would try to find an admin from round your locality and ask them about whether this newspaper is sufficient. Personally, I got into hot water recently for describing the San Francisco Chronicle as a local rag with no credibility so my knowledge of US papers is thin --BozMo talk 09:06, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey,

Thanks so much! I'm going to do just what you suggested and keep on trying until I get it up there. Hopefully, if I keep re-doing it and pushing for it, then it will happen.

I read through your profile. Wow, a Ph.D...! :)

Thanks,

Shawn

PS: The 18th century cartoons were interested but weird..;) Shawnborgia 03:53, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Franchise Circle - Created with Notability

Hi,

I just re-created the Franchise Circle article with your recommendations, and with notability in mind.

Let me know your thoughts on how it looks now.

Thanks! Shawnborgia 22:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Franchise Circle, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (below the existing db tag) and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this.

PS: I have only just seen that the article was deleted once before. I don't know what it looked like before but it still seems below what I consider a notable level for a Wikipedia article. --Pig^man_dialogue 02:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Notability of Article

Hi Paul,

This article is notable because:

1. Franchise Circle was the first social networking site for franchising. It was launched 6 months ago.

2. If you do a Google search (or any search engine for that matter), you will not see any social networking site for franchising.

3. The site and the company were discussed in an article in a major newspaper in Connecticut. (please review the article). Actually, the article was written about in several Hersam Acorn newspapers that cover Westchester, Darien, and other parts of Connecticut with about a total circulation of 4 million.

4. There is an article on Wikipedia about Ryze, LinkedIn, and several other social networking sites that are similar in nature, and in my opinion, make less of a claim to notability than Franchise Circle. This site is specific and focuses on one industry.

5. A major public figure and CEO in the United States capitalized this company,and furthermore discussed the investement on national TV two weeks ago on ABC News. (CEO of JetBlue, David Neeleman) whom there are also articles about on Wikipedia.

I think the above make Franchise Circle.com a notable article. It doesn't focus on people, groups, or anything else...but on an innovative website, invention, and service for a niche industry that is venture backed, will be around for a long time, and adds value to a normally very isolated, unknown, and litigious industry.

Please let me know if you have any recommendations on what I could add beyond what I have to keep the article.

Thanks!

Shawnborgia 04:52, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Notability of Franchise Circle

Just to add to the post above, on the 'Notability' help page in Wikipedia it states the following:

One notability criterion shared by many of the subject-specific notability guidelines and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not is that "A topic is notable if it has been the subject of at least one substantial or multiple, non-trivial published works from sources that are reliable and independent of the subject and of each other

The New Canaan Advertiser and the Hersam Acorn group of newspapers is our one substantial, indpendent, and reliable source. You can check their websites if you wish to see more information on them, check their independence, et

Shawnborgia 05:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Reply to your email

First off, I vastly prefer to communicate on Wikipedia talk pages rather than email. In general, people try to transparent in their actions as editors on Wikipedia and it's just easier that way.

I don't think there's a lot I can suggest to make the organization more notable. "Third party sources" means news stories or scholarly write ups or books. Now I know a social network as young as Franchise Circle will probably not have anything much written about it yet but those are the sort of things we look for. Two Wikipedia articles you should look at: WP:RS is on reliable sources and WP:V is about verifiability of information.

Not to discourage you but there are a couple of strikes against you. One, I suspect you are one of the founders of Franchise Circle and if this is true starting this article is considered a conflict of interest WP:COI. It's not totally forbidden but it is *severely* frowned upon. Two, the very nature of Franchise Circle is, in a very real sense, promotional. In other words, it appears to be designed to promote and seek publicity for itself and its members. Again, this is not wholly compatible with encyclopedic perspective and neutral point of view, both central to the Wikipedia project.

Sorry I can't be more helpful than this. --Pig^man_dialogue 06:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Notability

Hi Paul,

Yes, I am one of the inventors and conceivers of the project. I'm not going ot slink on here and lie about it.

This is an innovative project, and I guess as much a promotion as Ryze's article is. Should the other self promotion, or any other company for that matter be deleted from Wikipedia too...?

The project is in a newspaper, and The CEO of airline major airline backed our project, all of which has been proven.

What do I need to do, or who do I need to pay, to get an article about our project like our competition does? How did they get their article on here, do they know someone I do not?

Our other backer owns the largest Candy franchise in the world, and they could not even get an article on Wikipedia. What is up with that?

We're going on National TV next week and I'll have a link to the video. Does this guarantee notability? I'd say it's the epitomy of it..?

Please let me know who to go to, or if a donation to Wikikpedia is how to go about doing this because I can't see how other people get such similar articles if we can not.

Shawn Shawnborgia 13:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Franchise Circle conflict-of-interest

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AfD Nomination: Franchise Circle

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