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Last edit: December 29, 2014, 06:35 (UTC) by DPH1110 (talk · contribs)


Arizona Coyotes, Gila River Arena and related page discussions[edit]

Hey Zzyzx11, thank you for your messages. Complete beginner in figuring out how to be a valued contributor. Want to use my knowledge of sports and sports business topics to especially those articles.

My recent edits were based on resources I haven't figured out yet how to list, but doing a few formatted edits on the fly while learning. But I don't want to create an accuracy issue.

Gila River Arena name change was approved by the Glendale City Council on September 9, 2014 at 6:48 PM Mountain Standard Time. Video link to meeting may be available at at the time of this note.

Additionally, the Arizona Sting information was originally updated after looking at the NLL sites and statistical pages. This was in regards to the time they actually ceased operations.

Still need to learn ASAP how to site references, including any reordering of them in corresponding to the correct source articles.

The Gila River Arena name change press conference is scheduled for September 10th at 12:00 PM Arizona time, so I can insert the appropriate edits for you later in the evening, including revised versions of what edits you had undone.

I can do the same in linking Gila River Arena information to related pages for the Arizona Coyotes, Arizona Rattlers, Phoenix Suns and US Airways Center.

Let me know when you can. Thanks! Bigapplemayhem (talk) 05:45, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

PS: I plan to return home by around this time on Wednesday night after spending the day in New York City. I can help out at that time.

RfC concerning the article name for Broadway[edit]

Because you were involved in a previous discussion on the subject, or related to the subject, please see RfC: What is the best name for the article about the street called "Broadway" which originates in Manhattan? BMK, Grouchy Realist (talk) 02:36, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

USPLACE discussions[edit]

Thank you very much, for completing the archive of previous discussions about USPLACE at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names). There are actually a few other recent ones; I wondered if you left them out deliberately or just didn't know about them?

April 2012: discussion, not officially made into an RFC or officially closed: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)/Archives/2012/June#WP:USPLACE

The November-December 2012 discussion was actually not closed as "no consensus"; it was closed as "maintain status quo (option B)". (Same effect as "no consensus" but not phrased as "no consensus"; can be read as a positive endorsement of status quo.)

RFC June 2013, speedy-closed without full discussion: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)/Archives/2013/June#Naming convention

I'll leave it to your judgment whether to add these or not. Thanks again, it's good to have this record available since the discussion comes up with such regularity! --MelanieN (talk) 22:38, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

There have been numerous discussions, so I have not yet gotten around to make a thoroughly search on all the archives, given the time I had in real life today. Listing all of these was based on this comment I made during the ongoing debate now. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:00, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
I appreciate your digging. Most of the ones you added were "before my time" so it was enlightening to me to see the history. Thanks again.--MelanieN (talk) 15:27, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Siskiyou County[edit]

When you "reverted all the edits on the Siskiyou template", did you perchance save the several towns that have wikipages that weren't included on your template before? The town names that were on the page really didn't match the ones in the template and I spent quite a bit of time sorting it all out. I'm sorry it wasn't to your liking, there were no instructions on the template talk page - indeed there was nothing on there - but at least I left you a list of all the towns, CDPs and unincorporateds. Would you take a look at all the communities please and be sure that none got left off that should not be? Since I don't have your experience in this regard, your checking the facts that remain being accurate would be most appreciated. 04:20, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

@Ellin Beltz: - I have included only the links to existing articles from your list, and not the "red links". As I stated on the talk page, this is a navigation box for navigation between existing pages, and should not really be a full list that includes every single "red link" that is unlikely to be created within the next month (see the second paragraph of WP:REDNOT). Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:31, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
The towns listed on Siskiyou County, California#Geography should also now include all the ones on your list. However, as I also stated on the talk page, the "populated place" phrase is too general because sources seem to also classify cities as "populated places". I have made the relevant changes on that, and on the corresponding town articles. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:57, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

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Photomontage, opinion[edit]

Greetings Zzyzx11: I see the photo montages you've been adding to various places including Humboldt County, California. I do not think this montage is as informative or useful as a single photo at the top of the article. The montages make very small pictures in an area which was already small, making it nearly impossible to see on a computer, let alone my phone or tablet. (Yes, I looked on all three platforms, on the phone it is an unintelligible blur.) I think the montage reduces the educational benefit of the image in the infobox and suggest you make photo galleries instead. I have not yet reverted this edit as you listed it as a test edit. I would request that at least for Humboldt County, you return it to an image that is big enough to see on all platforms. Thank you! Ellin Beltz (talk) 23:26, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

@Ellin Beltz: - Feel free to revert it. As you saw in the edit summary, it is a test edit. Some people like these montages, and some don't. See the debate on Talk:San Francisco/Archive 7#Is there something wrong with collages? for example. After such montages were successfully put on pages such as New York City, Chicago and Washington, D.C., a couple of people supported having one on the San Francisco page as well, but others were against that. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:21, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm not against all montages, per se. My concern is that the images in the Humboldt one (see your Mendocino edit for contrast) are so small that they become unrecognizable and thus detract rather than add to the article. I live here and I had trouble figuring out what the pictures represented. I did revert your edits, and I also removed the image "One Log House" because that building is in Mendocino County, not Humboldt! Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:12, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Well noted. I'll just use File:Humboldt Bay and Eureka aerial view.jpg on that page for now. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 23:34, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
That's a good image to use. I looked at the possibilities and couldn't decide, but I think you have made the best choice! Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 06:03, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

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I have no control over other user's changing the tag from {{Non-free use rationale logo}} to {{Information}}.[1] The burden should be on them to change it. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:21, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

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Wikipedia welcome listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


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Re: your comments on an RM discussion[edit]

Hello Zzyzx11.

A couple of weeks ago, you and another editor commented on an RM at Talk:Alpine skiing at the 2014 Winter Olympics – Men's Super-G. It has since been updated with answers and sources. Maybe you'd care to re-visit the RM and comment further?


HandsomeFella (talk) 08:18, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Only five individual sources seem like a small sample size to make a further opinion on the appropriate WP:COMMONNAME at this time. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:55, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Sigh. Considering that three of them are consistently using lower-case, one would think that it would be enough to establish that "super-G" is not a proper noun. How often do you really see real proper nouns written in lower-case? It's the other way around that most often is the problem. But allright, I'll see if I can add more sources.
HandsomeFella (talk) 12:32, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
There are now 20 sources altogether. HandsomeFella (talk) 14:05, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

RM - stadium name change[edit]

A RM for Rangers Ballpark in Arlington was recently closed without moving, based in part on the notion that Globe Life Park was not demonstrated to be the WP:COMMONNAME. As you weighed in on the AT&T Stadium move last year, I thought you might want to revisit this decision. Woodshed (talk) 11:32, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

The rule of thumb is to wait at least a month before initiating another RM, which conveniently coincides with the first weeks of the MLB season, which should be enough time for all the reliable sources to adjust. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 15:02, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

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Response at Talk:The Beatles (album)#Requested move[edit]

I've addressed your concerns at the move discussion, and tweaked my opening argument. Dralwik|Have a Chat 04:30, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Eh, I conceded the move attempt. Dralwik|Have a Chat 05:01, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

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The OTHER David Hernandez (poet)[edit]

Regarding this edit, you are absolutely correct, the hatnote should not have been there. But I did some homework and the Chicago poet has been written about in several books. At the time of his death, he was known as the "unofficial Poet Laureate of Chicago." I've started a draft about this person. For now it's at User:Davidwr/David Hernández (Chicago). Thanks for inspiring me to investigate.

Oh, and I created David Hernandez (disambiguation) and fixed up the hat-notes on the affected articles to point there instead of at each other. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 22:36, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

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Chagres and Fort San Lorenzo[edit]

Thanks for achieving by other means what I had attempted to do 14 mths ago. However, it would be good if you could put back the fort picture which has been lost. Cheers Bjenks (talk) 04:56, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Fixed. Thank you. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:03, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

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Emmy picture[edit]

I suppose most people wouldn't notice, but the picture that was previously in the Emmy Award article (File:EmmyAward.png) is a "generic" Emmy picture with a blank label section, whereas the one you replaced it with (File:Emmy statuette.jpg) is an example of a Primetime Emmy. Since the Emmy Award article is about all types of Emmys, I wonder if the other picture wasn't a better choice. (Also, you may note that I partly reverted another of your edits on that page, since the way you wrote it seemed to introduce potentially non-neutral editorial commentary that seemed to assert that the NATAS Tech & Eng awards are more important than the ATAS Primetime Engineering awards.) —Mulligatawny (talk) 12:31, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Feel free to revert that too, but as you mentioned, there is really no informational difference to the average reader. The Emmy statuette is really the same, no matter what ceremony it is presented in. The only difference is zooming in on the plaque engraved on each statuette's base, listing its winner, award category, ceremony, and so forth. Because File:EmmyAward.png is marked as a non-free fair use image, it is restricted by the policies on Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria, while File:Emmy statuette.jpg is not and can be used in various other Emmy-related articles. Zzyzx11 (talk) 16:44, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

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Robin Williams[edit]

Thanks for catching this! - I'm wondering if it's a good idea to still list Williams but just clarify. In many cases people are thought of "living" in a community if they have a mailing address with the city name even if it's outside the city limits. In the Houston area there are many areas with Katy, Texas mailing addresses but the actual city of Katy is small WhisperToMe (talk) 18:39, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

@WhisperToMe:: See the related conversation on Talk:Robin Williams#Tiburon. There is confusion by non-US readers when they see "unincorporated" in the cited source, but the Tiburon article states it is "incorporated". If you have something better worded, or a source that is more clear, I'll be open to that option. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 18:43, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
If I can cite a source stating the exact home address, it can be combined with a US Census Bureau map of the town of Tiburon and that is enough to determine whether something is in the city limits WhisperToMe (talk) 18:55, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Apparently an IP posted an edit request on Talk:Robin Williams#Add exact address, but it was unsourced. If I look that specific address up, Google maps shows that it is in Paradise Cay, California. If that is in fact the correct address, I'm curious about how you would word that on the Tiburon, California page. Most unincorporated communities in California have specific names (and thus often have separate existing Wikipedia articles), like Paradise Cay. I'm not sure that is the same in Texas. Zzyzx11 (talk) 20:16, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Julia Child and Ross, California[edit]

Her article stats she attended a boarding school in Ross for several years. wouldn't that make her a resident? I am sifting thru the refs on her article now. John from Idegon (talk) 22:12, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Found a solid book reference to her attendance at the boarding school so I put her back. John from Idegon (talk) 22:30, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. There are just way too many editors (especially anonymous IPs) adding to these "notable people" lists without providing a source. Zzyzx11 (talk) 22:43, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
At least on place articles they are usually at least actually notable. On school articles which is my specialty, it is usually some dude labeling the girl that shut him down the night before a slut. Happy editing! John from Idegon (talk) 22:50, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox venue[edit]

I understand the concern about it being now highly-visible, but could you leave it semi-protected for the next day or two? I'd like to be able to respond quickly if there is any problem or feedback as a result of the merge changes. -- Netoholic @ 06:36, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I have not been online until now. For any technical issues or bugs, I would have hoped that you had tested thoroughly on Template:Infobox venue/sandbox before making it live. There are other editors with the template editor permission that have it on their watchlists. So far, it looks like Frietjes found a bug, and was able to correct it.[2] I have not seen any other complaints or issues since I applied the protection (almost 23 hours later) As for any issues regarding the cosmetic changes you boldly added while merging the templates (such as moving the Tenants section above the Construction section) that would most likely need further discussion to determine consensus instead of a need for a quick edit. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:12, 14 August 2014 (UTC)


If you're adding material like [3] to FAs and GAs, could you add a source for it as well? Adding unsourced material causes the risk that the article will be demoted. --Rschen7754 02:30, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm also concerned about your edits to the template, adding additional postmile support. We only use postmiles when state mileages are unavailable, because postmiles are nearly useless for the general reader, and also cannot be converted to kilometers. Please discuss before making such a change next time. --Rschen7754 06:24, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
It was purely done as a bold test. I did not like the results anyway. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:31, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


I wasn't expecting that, but thank you.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:30, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Do you remember Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AS92813/Archive? I suspected Rt31914 from the start when he first moved some stadium articles a few days ago using similar comments as the socks of AS92813, but needed him to make further edits to confirm my suspensions and block him. And that on Forever End was it. I'm surprised though that he either failed to notice or chose to ignore the subtle hints and references I made on my previous comments on his talk page that I suspected him. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 18:46, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Is XtremeEditorz (alternate account) him too?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:41, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

That looks like a different person, posting something about the U.S. Democratic Party. That is more noticeable and has been blocked by another admin. Zzyzx11 (talk) 18:46, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
I never really paid attention to what was going on at Forever Red but looking in the history I do see a bunch of IPs that match his previous WHOIS data.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:51, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
If you noticed, I set Forever Red to semi-protection to limit his IPs. That is the best I can do. If I do full, that will do collateral damage to regular users. It is better to indefinitely block sleeper sock accounts that get through. Zzyzx11 (talk) 18:55, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
I've just been dealing with so many other sockfarms in the past few days I've lost track. The guy who thinks there are people with conflicts of interest with editors of some article I never heard of and claims to be a viking. The guy who wants everyone to be sure that Taiwan should be called "Republic of China (Taiwan)" and that it's a sovereign state with 103 years of independence. And now some guy who wants Hong Kong to be under a list of countries on articles on mass transit systems.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:59, 24 August 2014 (UTC)


I'm not certain what you are testing here. I am not of the opinion that adding coordinates benefits that table, but I admit to curiousity as to the purpose behind it. Resolute 00:50, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Template:GeoGroup is used to generate a raw generic map of all the coordinates on an article of section, in KML format, that can be exported to Google Maps, Bing and other similar applications. If you click on the first link in the {{GeoGroup}} box on the page now, "Map of all coordinates from Google", Google Maps will then display all the coordinates from that section (in this case, all the NHL teams) on the map. This is an alternative to logging into Google Maps and creating a map directly from there, which someone did to make a map of KHL teams (and a link to that map was added to the bottom of Kontinental Hockey League#Teams). Zzyzx11 (talk) 01:25, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Hmm, okay. But how does it benefit this article to create a third party map that duplicates the image already in the article? Particularly given that table is already cluttered? Is there any way to make that column invisible? Resolute 01:49, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
It provides an additional free map in a different format that others can export, use and modify. Not everyone has or knows how to use an image editor, but everyone can access Google Maps, Bing and others. And no, I do not think it will work if it is invisible. I was meaning to test this back in February before the GM column was added in March,[4] but never got around to do it until now. The inclusion of this GM column already makes the table too cluttered already. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:01, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Glendora, Dottie Walters – Bestselling Author and Motivational Speaker[edit]

I noticed you reversed another editor's update for the reason that the proposed link to the person's name was missing. That is fairly common, there are numerous Wikipedia articles which meta link to non-existant pages, it is not usually considered to be a fatal flaw, it is often used as a holding place.

The editor that added the text could have been asked to provide a page to complete the link. In fact I will do so and see if the editor will add a page and then restore his or her proposed update to the Glendora page. Thanks! Damotclese (talk) 16:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

True, but as Srich32977 replied on your cross post on Talk:Glendora, California#Dottie Walters update, a reliable source needs to be added to both show that this person is notable and actually lived in Glendora. Many anonymous users tend to spam these "notable people" sections with original research, names that are not-notable, or cannot be verified. A so-called "red link" may be removed if a case can be made that Wikipedia should not have an article on that subject. Zzyzx11 (talk) 03:45, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

2012 NFC/AFC standings template editnotices nominated for deletion[edit]

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Super Bowl Fifty-three[edit]

Can you do the honors and delete this consensus/AfD rounding attempt to create the article? Thank you. Nate (chatter) 00:43, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

What sources and content can you cite to warrant a new article? Unless there is something substantial, it will be deleted again per WP:CRYSTAL. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 00:46, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, I misread your request. Clearly an attempt to circumvent the page protection. Zzyzx11 (talk) 00:48, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Also, the version was clearly false. I do not think the league has announced finalists yet for the host site. Zzyzx11 (talk) 00:55, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

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I have been notified that that article was deleted. There was NO reason for that article to be deleted. You deleted it for "Copyright Issues" which is an invalid argument and a false statement, which I did use reliable sources. There was no reason for deleting that article, and I will be remaking that article, and contesting it. I do so under my legal rights.

Blocking my account from editing articles will not solve the disputes noted above but it will make the problem worse and may lead to legal battle (may not).

Thank you for taking your time to read my comments about your false accusations.

Agentdunhamfbi (talk) 02:35, 6 October 2014 (UTC)AgentDunhamfbi

Re: ABC World News Tonight[edit]


Thank you for your kind message.

Once ABC World News Tonight gets a permanent weekend anchor, then the page should include "with David Muir". The ABC World News Tonight website officially includes the name "with David Muir", they also use it on their social media pages. I suggest you add "with David Muir" once they get a permanent weekend anchor.


Agentdunhamfbi (talk) 01:01, 7 October 2014 (UTC)Agentdunhamfbi

I decline. Per Wikipedia guidelines, the most common name used by reliable sources should be used, not the official name (see Wikipedia:Article titles#Use commonly recognizable names) Whatever is listed on the official web site is irrelevant. For example, primarily only uses "ABC World News Tonight".
Furthermore, article titles should be as concise as possible, and consistent with other similar articles (see Wikipedia:Article titles#Deciding on an article title). Like the CBS Evening News and NBC Nightly News articles, the current name of "ABC World News Tonight" is concise enough, because it contains information on both the weekday and weekend editions, and that is essentially the primary title used 7-days a week. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:28, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
Zzyzx11 - Thank you for clarifying my mistake. I did not know, but now I do. Thank you and happy editing!

Agentdunhamfbi (talk)Agentdunhamfbi — Preceding undated comment added 23:05, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you for helping me getting started on Wikipedia! You are a great help!

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Re: Gilliam[edit]

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Stanley Cup Playoffs[edit]

Well for example and to ensure accurate playoff appearances I used for (the Montreal Canadians) List of Montreal Canadiens seasons I went thru and counted myself every playoff appearance they have had beginning with their time spent in the NHA to the NHL from 1913-2014 making it a total of 84 Playoff appearances and as well as this link provided Hockey Teams With the Most Playoff appearances it was last updated in January 2013 but to ensure the accurate number I used the List of seasons pages for the teams too make the most accurate number JMichael22 (talk) 14:36, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

NFL Playoffs[edit]

Also for the NFL playoffs I used this link provided Most Playoff Appearances -- NFL Teams and to make things easier and to make the most accurate number since the link was last updated in January 2012 if you look at the Infobox for an NFL team they have listed the amount of playoff appearances for the the teams which is how I got my information for each team and for any further questions about the NFL or Stanley Cup Playoffs please feel free too message me back at anytime thank you JMichael22 (talk) 14:36, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

See WP:BLOGS. Reliable or official source like the official NFL record and fact book should be used, not a blog hosted on the web site. Different self published sources may use different criteria than what reliable sources or what the NFL and NHL officially say, such as whether to count the Cleveland Browns' time in the All-American Football Conference or the Edmonton Oilers' time in the World Hockey Association. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:58, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Anaheim Regional Transportation Intermodal Center opens December 6, 2014[edit]

Merge discussion for Anaheim (train station) [edit]


An article that you have been involved in editing, Anaheim (train station) , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Fettlemap (talk) 03:33, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

{{Infobox tram network}}[edit]


I'm curious about this change. {{px}} supports a fallback size if none is specified, which was set to frameless, the default image thumbnail size. My understanding was that images shouldn't be manually downsized beyond this without due cause. Is there a particular reason to prefer 200px? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 17:52, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

@Thumperward:, whatever was happening on the several articles I was looking at after you made your alternations, the frameless was not working and all the images were rendering to their normal size (even if was over 1000px) and not a thumbsize. I only picked 200px because that was the default on the infobox before you made that edit. I re-saved your edits on Template:Infobox tram network/sandbox for now,[5] and when I currently test that on Special:ExpandTemplates with the code for Streetcars in New Orleans, for example, it renders the image File:FEMA - 20722 - Photograph by Robert Kaufmann taken on 12-21-2005 in Louisiana.jpg to its full 3300 width. I was not sure what the cause is. Zzyzx11 (talk) 07:17, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
I have also posted the side-by-side comparison on the testcases page. [[6] Again, I'm not sure, on your version, what is causing the image to expand to its full size of 3300 px. Thanks.
That's... odd. You're right, it doesn't seem to be working. I'll have a look. Thanks! Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:07, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
Fixed: a silly syntax error (missing a pipe on the second image row). I've re-deployed. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:11, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Protection of Russell Hantz[edit]

Hey there, I was wondering your thoughts about removing the pending changes protection from the Russell Hantz article. It doesn't get much activity in the first place, and if any IP's come along looking to make some fixes, it wouldn't hurt. If the sock issue pops up again, I'm sure we can re-protect it, but time has passed and it's likely not needed anymore. Gloss 05:35, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Pending changes is specifically intended for infrequently edited articles. There is no evidence (at least that I am aware of) that pending changes "scares" IPs away from making a fix, pending a review. Furthermore my experience with sockpuppets is that about 9 months is not enough time (especially if it is one that may periodically monitor this very talk page...). Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:50, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Tennessee Titans colors[edit]

The Titans are switching their primary colored jerseys to navy blue beginning with the 2015 season, per Paul Kuharsky of ESPN and Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean. I updated the NFL primary, NFL secondary raw and NFL tertiary raw color templates, however, I'm not sure if the NFL staff footer template also needs to be updated, which I believe only an NFL WikiProject administrator can edit. Several Titans' templates, including the main Tennessee Titans and Titans staff templates, still appear with the predominant light blue background, however, the infobox colors on the 2015 Tennessee Titans season article seem to be updated. Though light blue was the Houston/Tennessee Oilers primary color, navy is now the Titans' primary color.
DPH1110 (talk) 05:48, 29 December 2014 (UTC)DPH1110

@DPH1110:, Template:NFL staff footer does not need to be updated, as it draws data from the color template. The problem here is that the main team and staff templates do not specify a year on the calls to the color templates, so it automatically defaults to the current year. The current year is still 2014, so it is using the 2014 colors. Now, if you wait a couple of days until the clock strikes midnight, Jan 1 (UTC), it should automatically switch to the 2015 colors. Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:27, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. As you can tell, I put in A LOT of work in all the teams' season articles, though it can sometimes be both time-consuming and mentally-exhausting. DPH1110 (talk) 06:35, 29 December 2014 (UTC)DPH1110