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Matriarchical alternate universe films?

I wonder are there any films set in a normal, contemporary world except for the fact that the social power of males and females has been reversed? A sort of matriarchical White Man's Burden, so to speak. Preferably 20th century, American. Related suggestions welcome. Thanks! Skomorokh 15:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Well they may not have cars or aeroplanes, but Galadriel seems to be the brains of the operation in Lorien. Vranak (talk) 16:34, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

I was looking for works more close to our consensus reality than that of Unfinished Tales, and a broader power distribution than one matriarch, but I appreciate the Tolkien nod nonetheless (though my own preference of matriarchs from that universe would without question be the spy queen of cats!). Skomorokh 17:09, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

3/4 of Oz seems to have been run by witches. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:59, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Skomorokh -- I know some books falling under that general description, but no movies, sorry. However, you could look at Riker's outfit in Angel One... -- AnonMoos (talk) 17:29, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Not just Riker's outfit in "Angel One"; the whole premise of the episode. —Angr (talk) 08:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, the rest of the episode didn't rise all that far above semi-cheesy 1950's depictions of square-jawed he-man explorers/astronauts stumbling across a matriarchy, but Riker's outfit shows that somebody on the show did spend a little bit of time seriously thinking through what the implications of a matriarchy might be.... AnonMoos (talk) 12:11, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps an episode of Sliders? —Tamfang (talk) 18:00, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

I remember one episode of Sliders where they went to a parallel Earth that was almost entirely female. The few males were kept locked up and permitted to breed with only a few select females. Our heroes managed to find refuge in the house of a sympathetic woman, but were given away when the police saw the toilet seat left up! —Angr (talk) 08:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

There were a number of gender-reversal episodes on Sliders. You're thinking of the episode "Love Gods", and Tamfang is probably recalling the episode "The Weaker Sex", where Hillary Clinton is president (as opposed to the then-president Bill Clinton) and the plot revolves around Maximillian Arturo breaking the glass ceiling by running for public office. There's also the episode "The Prince of Slides", where men are the ones who get pregnant. See: List of Sliders episodes. -- 174.21.254.3 (talk) 19:08, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

You might want to take a look at our pages on two TV films, Planet Earth and The Last Man on Planet Earth, though both depict futuristic matriarchies rather than alternate universe ones. And you've probably already thought of and rejected She. --Antiquary (talk) 18:22, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

The closest I could find is Zeta One. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:59, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

The Wicker Man, FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions, Bees in Paradise, Sexmission, America 3000, Star Maidens (saw this on AFN in Germany around 1980). ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 12:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

How do I put a new page up for one that has been deleted?

I've written a page about Norfolk writer Sue Welfare. It's Currently a sub page from my user page. When I went to move it into the wiki I found that there had been a page in 2010 that has been deleted. I can't find the old page to see what the problem was. When I follow the links of the removal notification page there's just a mass of links with very poor descriptions so I can't see the page they've deleted.

I believe I've created suitable citations (BBC, University of East Anglia) and she has written about 16 novels published by legitimate global publishers. (I've seen articles about authors who have much less detail with much less significant careers.) I have also found an article in Wikipedia (Roy Waller) that refers to her so I can link my article so it won't be an orphan.

I'm new to Wikipedia. What do I do?

User:Kotch5/Sue_Welfare#Writing_career

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sue_Welfare&action=edit&redlink=1

Roy_Waller

Kotch5 (talk) 17:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Kotch5 -- The previous articles under that name were deleted for copyright infringement, so as long as your effort doesn't infringe on copyrights, it won't be deleted for the same reason. However, this question should probably be asked on the help desk... AnonMoos (talk) 17:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Is it possible to get a link to the help desk? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kotch5 (talk • contribs) 10:29, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

No problem I've found it. Kotch5 (talk) 10:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Silvio Crespi

Silvio Crespi signed the treaty of Versailles . who was his wife?and did he have children, if so what are their names? My great grandmother Lina Crespi was an accomplished opera singer and painter and was related to him according to mothers records . Ii am trying to get the order down. I have many of her oil paintings !and I am searching for a provenance. Thank you so much. Sonia Lovett. Granddaughter of Elsie Gunn Crespi Ricketts —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.205.9.53 (talk) 21:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

• He has a biography in the Enciclopedia Italiana. It confirms he did have children - one son is named, Benigno (b. 1895) and as he's described as figlio primogenito, eldest son, there were probably others - but there's no mention there of his wife's name or the names of any other children. Shimgray | talk | 22:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

There's information on the early history of the Crespi family on this English language site and this Italian language one. It appears that Silvio Crespi's wife was called Teresa Ghiglieri, that she married him on 3rd January 1893 and died on 9th September 1944. I'm afraid I don't see any more on their children than Shimgray has discovered. --Antiquary (talk) 10:51, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

I've just remembered that there's a useful source of facts called Wikipedia. Italian Wikipedia's page on Silvio Crespi says he and Teresa had seven children, but doesn't name them. There are also pages on Silvio's father Cristoforo Benigno Crespi at Italian Wikipedia and here at English Wikipedia. --Antiquary (talk) 11:27, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Treaty of Seringapatam

Does anyone know where I can find the text (preferably online) of the Treaty of Seringapatam? Thanks... ╟─TreasuryTag►sundries─╢ 21:57, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

• There's a copy as Appendix i (p. 275 onwards) in this book - it should hopefully be visible to you. Shimgray | talk | 22:37, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Image used in the article Nightclub

I have noticed this image: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Okinawa_club.JPG

This image features mainly black men and Japanese women. This is clearly not a normal nightclub in Japan.

What is up with this image?--X sprainpraxisL (talk) 23:00, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

I think you will find that actually the image features mainly American men and Japanese women. Okinawa has large American military bases. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:12, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

African-American men then. Same difference. I understand Okinawa is south of the main parts of Japan.--X sprainpraxisL (talk) 23:16, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

In the same rough sort of way that Alaska is west of the main parts of the USA, yes. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:21, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Novels about Canadian inuit

Can anyone name any novels about Canadian Inuit or by Canadian Inuit authors? Or can anyone name any novels about Natives in Alaska? I don't want childrens' books or non fiction. Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 23:37, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Sanaaq, the "first of all Canadian Inuit novels", written in 1955 or 1956 by Mitiarjuk Attasie Nappaaluk. Also Harpoon of the Hunter (one review calls it a children's book, but another acclaims it as "for all ages"). Clarityfiend (talk) 04:56, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Jack London was not an Inuit, but did write several stories about Alaska. StuRat (talk) 05:32, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

I can't think of the title for a particular book, but the plot goes like this:

1) A native kills a white man, in self-defense, I believe, while in town, then returns to his distant igloo.

2) White officers (police ?) go there, arrest him, and attempt to bring him back for trial.

3) They fall through the ice due to not knowing the signs of thin ice, and the native rescues one officer. The rest die.

4) The native takes the surviving officer back to his igloo to help him recover. This includes "laughing with his wife" (having sex with her).

5) Once recovered, the officer has the moral dilemma of whether he should still take in the native for trial, knowing it will not be fair, due to racism.

So, can anyone help me with the name ? Something to do with Land of the Midnight Sun, perhaps ? StuRat (talk) 05:48, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

We have Category:Inuit writers. Farley Mowat wrote about the Inuit sometimes, but he's not one himself (and he's often accused of just making stuff up). Adam Bishop (talk) 08:00, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Though not originally a novel, Nanook of the North may be of interest. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.197.66.111 (talk) 09:52, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Atanarjuat is a movie, not a novel, but may also be of interest anyway. —Angr (talk) 10:17, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Saying no kids books rules out Michael Kusugak. Try James Archibald Houston who wrote, among others, The White Dawn (that's the move link not the book). Kevin Patterson wrote Consumption about an Inuit woman with TB in Montreal. Depending on how you feel about things Inuit myths has traditional stories and there are plenty of books about Inuit mythology. Alootook Ipellie has written at least one book of short stories and drawings and been featured in another. The Incomparable Atuk by Mordecai Richler. Rankin Inlet by Mara Feeney. Jean Craighead George has written some for "young adults" so that might work. Try looking further through here, I just went to page three. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 18:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Kabloona, a 1941 novel by Gontran de Poncins. --- OtherDave (talk) 00:37, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

That's non-fiction though. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 05:22, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Agaguk is a classic novel by Yves Thériault about the Inuit in Quebec. The movie version is generally considered terrible, though. --Xuxl (talk) 17:33, 18 April 2011 (UTC)