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Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Grikon[edit]
Hello, Being new to wikipedia, I wanted to ask advice on how to reference correctly the articles I'm submitting. My aim would be - over time - to updated the English language wikipedia (although I'm not a native English speaker) with reference of the historic Japanese animation series of the '70s '80s and '90s. They are all present in the Japanese wiki, some on the Italian french and Spanish wikipedia pages. Given their age, these series have little online references (some are on imdb, some on Japanese sites, some Italian, a few French), a few books. I create three test pages for a number of animation series:
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Grikon
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Mu_no_Hakugei
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Uchuu_Kubo_Blue_Noah
In the first case there is some info in japanese and on a few reference books. In the second case I tried to add some additional info and is currently waiting to be re-checked. The third is the one with least info. I would appreciate any help and suggestions on how to proceed, thanks a lot in advance
Tsudzuraori (talk) 03:53, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
- Hello @Tsudzuraori: Welcome to the Articles for Creation Help desk. I just visited the all three submission page created by you. I noticed all three submissions are declined for not satisying Wikipedia notability standard. You are requested to review the notability guideline and make changes accordingly. If I have to say one line in order to make all above your three submission in compliance with Wikipedia policy and guidelines, I would suggest you to find wp:secondary, wp:independent and wp:reliable sources that discuss the subject in detail. In regarding to help with referencing, I guess you already knew how to cite sources in the body of the article. However you can visit, WP:REFB for the detailed guideline. Thank you. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 08:27, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
@Tsudzuraori, it is probably a good idea to discuss your ideas with WP:WikiProject Anime, the "subject specialists" there would be able to give you more specific guidance than we can. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:27, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi there,
I had an article decline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/David_Vitek and was given the below feedback from a very helpful person at wiki chat. Was wondering if you can have a look at the bolded points that we would like to contest? Based on these comments, do you think this would change that these references could be used?
Understand if not.... Just wanted to see if we could justify them.
Reference 1 is a name drop. Reference 2 is a public relations piece. - This is an interview with independent journalist for leading online magazine profiling Australian SMEs, not PR. Reference 3 is a YouTube cite. For TV or radio programmes, you cite the actual programme, not an online copy. (We do accept offline cites.) Reference 4 is good. (The only issue with it is you have 4-5 entries identical to it in the reference list.) Reference 5 is an interview with the subject - This is an interview with one of Australia’s leading business magazines (BRW) Reference 7 is a name-drop, and is more about the company than the subject. - This establishes that DV came up with the concept for the business, chairs a global business that is recognized by his independent in his sector. Reference 10 is good. Reference 11 is a press release and is unusable. - It's also one of the subject's businesses, and unusable on that basis as well. Reference 12 is more about the company than the subject. - As CEO DV has presided over the growth of the company. Reference 13 is more about the company than the subject, and is a press release. Reference 14 is more about the company than the subject, and is a press release. Reference 15 is malformed (Its URL is the same as Reference 14's.) (although even with fixed link might be same issue as all of them)- DV is mentioned & here is the correct link:http://www.brw.com.au/p/business/hipages_DX62oMCY7juhHMXfTOX4aO Reference 17 doesn't seem to mention the guy or his company.- It does, entry number 46: hipages.com.au, CEO David Vitek Reference 18 is a company profile and thus not about the subject. - Subject is quoted. Reference 18 is a YouTube cite. Again, cite the actual programme.This is a duplicate entry on the reviewers part. Reference 19 is a name drop wed in unholy matrimony with a YouTube cite. Reference 20 is another video cite of what seems to be the same SKY News programme. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hallkelly00 (talk • contribs) 04:51, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
I don't not understand why the independent publications references used on my article submission are not considered suitable. Please can you advise?Neo PR Ltd (talk) 11:00, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
- As far as I can see, the only page you have created with this account is Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/New Net Technologies, which lists no references at all. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 11:18, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
It seems that it has been more than 4 weeks since submitting this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Steve_%28S.G.%29_Sinnicks It shows as "Not submitted" still - though it looks like it is in the queue.
Am I missing something?
Thanks in advance...
Kamishiro (talk) 15:33, 7 March 2014 (UTC) kamishiro
- Hi Kamishiro. Yes, that page is correctly submitted and is awaiting review. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 15:41, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Can I create a Wikipedia page about myself? I am a professional magician but very little details is available on the web about me outside of my web page.Merlin1949 (talk) 16:27, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
- Creating a Wikipedia article about yourself is strongly discouraged, see Wikipedia:Autobiography. In addition, if there does not exist significant coverage about you in independent reliable sources (either on the web or offline, but not your own web page), then you will not meet the notability requirement for people, Wikipedia:Notability (people). (There's a simpler summary of the general notability guideline at Wikipedia:VRS.) Arthur goes shopping (talk) 16:33, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I've been trying to get this page up for a while now but it has been declined again because "This submission's references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability" but I have several references to books on the subject. I'm really just wondering if it is something I can fix with more/better/different references, if there is something more specifically I need to change, or if he really isn't notable :( Any input from an editor would be super helpful. JWMaxxSolutions (talk) 16:36, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
- It's really very hard to tell if he is notable at all. Quite a number of your references simply don't mention him. He does not become notable simply because of a connection with brands, companies or products that are themselves notable. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 10:05, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
How do I change the title of my entry? I need to add additional modifiers to accomplishments to separate from other individuals with the same name.
Team RubiconTeam rubicon (talk) 16:44, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
- You do not need to do so, only one disambiguator is used in an article title, not a list of every single job the person has ever done. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:09, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Hello, I am in the process of creating my first article Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/draft article on Mandy Boursicot. I inadvertently submitted it prior to it being complete. It was rejected due to lack of notability. I asked a question of the user who rejected it, but I cannot find where I asked the question and the user has not responded. So, I hope that this is an appropriate place to seek help. I am writing an article on a contemporary artist. In the article there is significant information on exhibits and collections - do these exhibits/collections demonstrate notability, and if so, how can these be cited and used as references? Also, this artist's biography and work is included in many galleries and academies/societies on the Internet. Are these appropriate references, and if so, is it appropriate/adequate to include the link in the reference? I look forward to hearing from the Teahouse on this. Thank you.
(EditPiaf (talk) 17:37, 7 March 2014 (UTC))
Note: Users are contacted through user talk pages, with names of the form User talk:Username. You've left a message on Aggie80's talk page at User talk:Aggie80, but it seems you have not gotten a response yet. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 06:58, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
You guys are on a witch hunt. I could put a reference to Sara Jay being the MOST googled pornstar on the planet but you don't care. It's because she is in porn that you are NOT putting this up.
She has won an award and has mainstream credits and done over 200 movies. All the references are done right.
If you are just a bunch of uptight right wing fundamentalists giving me a hard time, just say so.
Everyone in the world of adult knows exactly who she is. Heck she has 400,000 followers on twitter.
Why are you making this so difficult?
I am confused, upset and really think you are rejecting because of your dislike for adult stars. Correct me if I am wrong.
Ilovepitts (talk) 23:44, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Ilovepitts, we are definitely not opposed to articles about any topic, as long as it is in compliance with the minimum standards. The problem may simply be that reviewers are not familiar with what constitutes an acceptable source about the adult entertainment. You might get better help from the "subject specialists"at WP:WikiProject Pornography. Please remember to assume good faith when interacting with your fellow Wikipedians. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:18, 8 March 2014 (UTC)