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April 13[edit]

Request on 00:09:17, 13 April 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Chazzcity[edit]


I would like to add references to the article in order to verify the information in the article

Chazzcity (talk) 00:09, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg Question: Is the article you are referring to the Alex Kyza draft? If so, you will have to do some research and find reliable, independent (third-party) sources that discuss the subject in significant detail. Follow the links in the message to learn about what sorts of references are considered reliable and independent on Wikipedia. Once you've found suitable references, add inline citations to the draft so that readers know which statements are supported by which references. Thanks, wia (talk) 00:18, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Request on 05:11:22, 13 April 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Adamross01[edit]


Hello, I am having issues making this draft page I created, go live - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Girl_Asleep_(film) The film is certainly noteworthy and worthy of Wikipedia inclusion. As I am a very green user of Wikipedia, can someone correctly format the references on this page for me please so it can go live asap? References worth including: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/entertainment/arts/tilda-cobham-hervey-and-imogen-archer-reunite-for-new-film-version-of-windmill-theatres-girl-asleep/story-fni6um7a-1227161603582 http://if.com.au/2014/12/18/article/52-Tuesdays-duo-reunites-for-Girl-Asleep/XFGSHCWMZS.html Thanks Adam

Adamross01 (talk) 05:11, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@Adamross01: Hi Adam, I've formatted the references for you. The draft doesn't have a realistic chance of going live any time soon. Per WP:NFF, "films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable." While you wait for the release in October, please edit the text so that sentences don't copy or closely paraphrase the sources, which is not allowed. Worldbruce (talk) 02:14, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

17:29:38, 13 April 2015 review of submission by 2001:7E8:C0D2:8301:289E:2589:EBA2:339B[edit]


Dear, I would like to add a picture for Mr. Dean Constantin with the related caption (as referred within the draft). I am experiencing a problem and your kind help will be greatly appreciated. Your sincerely, Emma

2001:7E8:C0D2:8301:289E:2589:EBA2:339B (talk) 17:29, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@2001:7E8:C0D2:8301:289E:2589:EBA2:339B and Emma Stanley: The photograph you are trying to use it copyrighted by "© E33Motion Pictures and Film". Wikipedia can only use images that are licensed under a compatible free license. If the only images you can find of this person are copyrighted (and most images on the internet, unless specifically labeled otherwise, are under copyright), then you should just leave the picture out of the article. The lack of a picture won't make your article any less likely to be accepted. --Ahecht (TALK
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18:00:41, 13 April 2015 review of submission by Jnorman15[edit]

I am wondering why this article was not approved. I don't believe it sounds like an advertisement. I am not part of this company and I am completely impartial. Why does this article sound like an advertisement? Jnorman15 (talk) 18:00, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@Jnorman15:, I'm not the reviewer, but some content from the "History" section sounds slightly promotional to me. In particular, the sentences "It first opened its doors in Richmond Hill in January of 2005. It is currently located on 8054 Yonge Street in old Thornhill. The clinic was established with the goal of professional, timely, and efficient patient care to anyone in need" need a bit of work. "It first opened its doors" is familiar language and should probably be replaced by "It opened". "It is currently located on 8054 Yonge Street in old Thornhill" does not need to be in the body of the encyclopedia; perhaps you can add an infobox to the article and put the address there. And finally, the statement about "professional, timely, and efficient patient care to anyone in need" reads like promotion, since there is no reference to support it and because the language chosen is buzzword-y. Don't all clinics strive to offer professional, timely and efficient care, after all? wia (talk) 12:00, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Request on 20:09:12, 13 April 2015 review of submission by 141.225.96.232 20:09:12, 13 April 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by 141.225.96.232[edit]


I am no programmer, and trying to communicate with you this way is hard for me. I am username kimoller, in fact D. Kimbrough Oller, Professor at the University of Memphis, and previous author of two wikipedia articles, one of which seems to be in fine shape, the other of which apparently needs some corrections, which I will try to do in the next month. I have just completed a new draft article on Burton D. Carley, who is an extremely prominent American clergyman of the denomination of Unitarian Universalism (see Wikipedia article). For 32 years he has pastored the Church of the River (First Unitarian Church of Memphis)(see Wikipedia article), and all along has played a nationally and internationally significant role in the denomination, which traces its history to the Reformation in central Europe (Romania, Hungary, Poland), and has been a very significant denomination in American history (Presidents John Adams, John Quincy Adams, Millard Fillmore, and William Howard Taft for example were Unitarians). Other famous Unitarians were Walt Whitman, Ralph Waldo Emerson and Henry David Thoreau. The denomination is small by comparison with Baptists for example, but extremely influential as you can see by the list of prominent players, which incidentally goes on and on.

Burton D. Carley's national profile may be best illustrated in the fact that he was selected as the lead player in the formulation of the curriculum (titled " Whose Are We? Manual of the Unitarian Universalist Ministers Association") that is now used to train ministers and lay leaders in Unitarian Universalism. He developed this curriculum in collaboration with the Rev. Dr. Laurel Hallman, minister emerita of the First Unitarian Church of Dallas. Carley also trained the facilitators of the program. They also created a lay version of the curriculum for congregational use, and presented a program on it for the 2011 General Assembly of Unitarian Universalism. Together Carley and Hallman edited "Not for Ourselves Alone: Theological Essays on Relationship, Skinner House Books, Boston, 2014." All these facts can easily be verified with materials posted online by Unitarian Universalist Society and Unitarian Universalist Ministers Association. many of his sermons, prayers and poems are available also online. Being an academic, not a clergyman myself, I am not sure what the best references would be to make these points more verifiable. Could you advise me please?


141.225.96.232 (talk) 20:09, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@141.225.96.232 and Kimoller: Thanks for your submission. The problem with the article is that Wikipedia policy on biographies requires that you show that the subject of the biography has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article. This means that you generally would need to cite multiple examples of a reliable source unaffiliated with Mr. Carley or his church, writing about the person. For example, if his writings are widely cited by his peers, adding examples of specific citations to the article would probably be sufficient. --Ahecht (TALK
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20:24:59, 13 April 2015 review of submission by ADWilson33[edit]


I am writing to request help on inserting a gallery on the page for "Joe Stickley," a local St. Louis musician. I entered the .jpg filenames from my desktop, but have a feeling I am doing it wrong. The pictures do not show up on the preview page, but the file names do.

ADWilson33 (talk) 20:24, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@ADWilson33: If these are images which you took yourself or which have been released under a compatible free license, you can upload them to Wikipedia by following the instructions at WP:UPI. Once they have been uploaded, you can use them in the article. --Ahecht (TALK
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23:20:01, 13 April 2015 review of submission by Etna-research[edit]

Hello there. My suspicion is that the article submitted requires additional notable sources. Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Etna-research (talk) 23:20, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@Etna-research: We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42. Your four existing references all require replacement with references that meet all of these criteria.. Limited deployment of primary sources such as the org's own web site are allowed. See WP:PRIMARY, but deploying that in {{Infobox school}} is a far better way. At present the draft would be susceptible to immediate nomination for one of the deletion processes were it in main namespace.
Trust our automatic contents generation. Please remove the hard coded 'contents' section.
I advise most strongly on a change of user name. Yours appears to represent an organisation, or to be promotional, or to be one used by more than one person. Such things are against our policy. Wikipedia:Changing username will assist you. Fiddle Faddle 06:04, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

April 14[edit]

04:15:54, 14 April 2015 review of submission by Brandongjy93[edit]


The comment I got due to rejection was: "The "How to" e;events and prohibited items sections suggest this is promotional

Many of the references are regurgitated press releases and PR material. These must be replaced or removed, please. They provide an aura of faux notability which is not required and adds no value. Indeed it diminishes Wikipedia's value."

However, when I viewed a company from the same "industry" wiki page for instance, eBay, they were allowed to publish their prohibitory items as part of their content. Why is this so? Shouldn't there be standardization for every wiki page?

Also, as mentioned there were credibility issues raised with regards to my sources. What then will equate to being a good source if I were to retrieve most sources from the web? Online news article on Carousell for example? Please assist. Thank you.

Brandongjy93 (talk) 04:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Brandongjy93 (talk) 04:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

@Brandongjy93: On Wikipedia, the argument that similar articles exist doesn't wash. Please read our guidance about reliable sources to find appropriate sourcing for your company advertisement. Chris Troutman (talk) 04:19, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Request on 06:11:17, 14 April 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Abbaspourtamijani[edit]


Hello, I am creating an article about my dad but since it has the same last name as mine, I have received this message indicating that the article needs to be moved to the user page. How can you help me fix this?

Abbaspourtamijani (talk) 06:11, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

No, you have not, or, rather, not exactly. What you have received is part of the review process on Draft:Mohammad Hossein Abbaspour Tamijani, where I have declined the draft for the reasons given. Your job now is to edit to to deal with those issues and resubmit it for further review.
You have also received a welcome notice, a generic notice, which assumes that you have written an autobiography. Since this is not so you may ignore that with pleasure. Fiddle Faddle 06:38, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

10:47:13, 14 April 2015 review of submission by Vivekgupta23[edit]


Hi,

I had submitted a page creation request for this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Meritnation , but the reviewer asked for more citations / references.

I have now edited the page and added citations / references from leading news sites for all the facts mentioned therein.

I request you to review the content again.

Thanks in advance for your time!

Vivekgupta23 (talk) 10:47, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done I've submitted the draft for you this time. In the future, when you feel a draft is ready for review, you can submit it yourself by following the instructions at WP:WIZA. Thanks, wia (talk) 11:34, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

13:42:15, 14 April 2015 review of submission by Onenessall[edit]


I have removed some content from article and added some. The problem is I do not know how to remove or add the corresponding references.I have got myself into a muddle. Can I get help to knock this back into shape please? thank you.Onenessall (talk) 13:42, 14 April 2015 (UTC) Onenessall (talk) 13:42, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

15:42:20, 14 April 2015 review of submission by Jonfostersmith[edit]


I am standing on May 6th to bring digital democracy to UK Parliament, so this is urgent... Digital Democracy is a party registered with the UK Electoral Commission in March 2015 [1]. It will form policy from the app www.truedemocracy.uk as well as other respected digital democracy apps. A basic page is needed to correspond with candidacy listing on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenilworth_and_Southam_(UK_Parliament_constituency) MAny thanks"

Jonfostersmith (talk) 15:42, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

On the contrary, this is not urgent at all. Wikipedia does not have, nor need, articles about every political party registered with the UK Electoral Commission. Your organisation must meet the requirements of Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) in order for an article about it to exist on Wikipedia. Official Monster Raving Loony Party is an example of a UK political party that meets those requirements... though the sources provided for its Wikipedia article could be improved. As has already been recommended to you, you should be aware of policy Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 15:58, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
@Jonfostersmith: Pictogram voting info.svg This page is for questions about the Articles for creation process. If you would like to start writing a new article, please use the Article wizard. If you have an idea for a new article, but would like to request that someone else write it, please see: Wikipedia:Requested articles. I hope this helps.
You have previously started the Draft:True Democracy Party (UK) article. There are some suggestions for improvement at that page already, so perhaps you can work on that article instead of creating a new one. However, I will warn you to read carefully Wikipedia's policy on conflicts of interest. Conflict-of-interest editing is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. I hope this is helpful! wia (talk) 15:52, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

16:33:58, 14 April 2015 review of submission by Emma Stanley[edit]


Hello, I do not understand why the article about Dean Constantin has not been inserted. Based on my understanding, the guidelines are dully respected. If anyone could help resolving what is missing, I will be glad working on the related issue. Thank you very much. Emma

Emma Stanley (talk) 16:33, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

@Emma Stanley: The problem is that the sources you have given are either unsuitable (eg: IMDB, other Wikipedia articles) or don't give us sufficient information to show why he should have a Wikipedia article. On the "Submission declined" box, you can see some links to search for other sources, one of which is this news search which brings back several hits mentioning him. The sources are mostly non-English (mainly French, one Romanian), but if you can pick out sufficient information from those, they could be used. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:53, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Request on 21:13:04, 14 April 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Etica[edit]


Dear editors, we are surprised by the rejection of the Metropolitan Touring entry as we modeled it closely on the existing Hilton Hotel entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilton_Hotels_%26_Resorts). The rejection also notes a lack of independent sources, but all sources we indicated as footnotes are independent. We would therefore appreciate a more precise review of the submission, indicating specific points wherein the text reads like advertising, so that we can change this.

Kind regards Etica

Etica (talk) 21:13, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

@Etica: It's not a good idea to use an arbitrary Wikipedia article as an example to base yours off of. Since anyone can edit Wikipedia, existing articles are of varying quality. If you visit the Talk page of the Hilton article and click on "show" next to the Wikiproject banners, you will see that it is only rated "Start-class" on those project's quality scale. You would be better off using B-class, Good, and Featured articles as examples instead.
As to your sources, Wikipedia requires that you show significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article. The Cruise Critic reviews are user-generated and therefore not reliable sources. The other sources aren't significant coverage of the company itself -- they are mostly about the destinations or a certain ship/property. --Ahecht (TALK
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@Etica: I'll add also that some of the "Current Properties" section of the draft reads rather promotionally. Sentences like "La Pinta, a 207-foot yacht, is considered one of the top luxury vessels sailing the archipelago, and designed for the luxury segment in the tourism market" could be interpreted as an advertisement for the boat. Phrases like "top luxury vessel" are often peacock words and should be avoided. wia (talk) 21:45, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ralph Hodsdon Leavitt, American POW at Berga[edit]

The biographical data I submitted in December 2013 on Ralph Hodsdon Leavitt was published this month in On-Point, an Army History Journal, April 2015 with title "One Soldier's Experiences in War," as well as with many illustrations. Author is same. Dr. Ellen NicKenzie Lawson. Is there anyway you can now publish this info on Leavitt given that it is similar to published information and is no longer simply primary research? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.212.233.156 (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2015‎ (UTC)

@71.212.233.156: You can request that your article be restored at WP:REFUND/G13, add the appropriate sources, and submit it for review. --Ahecht (TALK
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April 15[edit]

01:26:28, 15 April 2015 review of submission by Whitesquire[edit]


Could someone please tell me how I move this article out of draft status? The reviewer had me add references and then directed me to the Help Desk for the next step. Do I upload it somewhere? Whitesquire (talk) 01:26, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

@Whitesquire: Hi Whitesquire, the article is submitted for review and should be reviewed in the next week or so. The reviewer will let you know once it's been reviewed and what the outcome is! wia (talk) 01:31, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
@Wikiisawesome: There must be a quicker way. When I first started this process, there were basically two paths to choose from. Obviously, I chose the longer path. What are the pitfalls of the other path (ie, uploading directly)? Whitesquire (talk) 01:43, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
@Whitesquire: The AfC process is designed to be a method for unregistered users to have their articles approved (since non-registered users can't create articles). It's also a good way to improve an article in a "safe" draft space without worrying about the article being nominated for deletion. Since you are a registered user, you are allowed to create an article right away without using the AfC process. But the AfC process is a good method too, and it tends to provide useful article feedback. Hang tight; it shouldn't be too long of a wait. wia (talk) 01:50, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
@Wikiisawesome: I have contributed as an unregistered user for years, but this is my first article, so I appreciate your feedback. Maybe my next article I will try to upload it directly. Can you suggest a good place for me to start learning more of the rules and syntax of Wikipedia? Whitesquire (talk) 02:13, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
@Whitesquire: One of many essays, User:Timtrent/A good article has been declared to be of some use by folk. I hope you will also be one of them. Fiddle Faddle 10:41, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
@Timtrent: Thanks for the feedback. How do I move it out of draft status? Do I upload it directly and then somehow delete the draft? Whitesquire (talk) 18:40, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
@Whitesquire: Every editor (after a short qualifying period) has access to the Move function. Wikipedia:Moving a page tells you all. I do suggest, though, that you allow the WP:AFC review process to play itself out. Why? Our role as reviewers is to seek to ensure that an article will not immediately be subject to one of our deletion processes when it is accepted. That is why we push it back to the author. We want to accept articles. I'm going to have a look at your draft with particular attention to referencing. I may be able to accept or push to back to you if I feel I'm competent to do either. Fiddle Faddle 19:24, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
@Whitesquire: Ok, I;ve set the status to be "being reviewed" because there is a technical matter I cannot overcome when I tried to accept the draft. You would not have been able to make this move either. I've left you a comment on the draft to tell you. Give it a few hours. We need admin assistance. Admins are usually pretty quick to sort this stuff out. It's a pretty thankless job for them. Fiddle Faddle 19:33, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

@Timtrent: Okay, I appreciate your efforts, and I noticed that same thing about an existing article on the subject. However, I could only find the main article titled "South Carolina Gamecocks", which is about all of their sports teams, not just golf. I bring this to your attention in the hopes of not accidentally having the main article replaced with mine. In fact, I wrote mine to complement the main article and to eventually link to mine from the main article. Whitesquire (talk) 20:12, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

@Whitesquire: of course. Do not worry, all is in hand. We just await help. Fiddle Faddle 20:23, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
@Timtrent: Thanks Mr Trent. Whitesquire (talk) 20:25, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Request on 13:20:44, 15 April 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Actionmoviefreak[edit]


I am trying to add an article on the place where I work. It is (and the title of the article) The Center for Computational Science at the University of Miami. There are no bold claims, just facts about what they do and what equipment they have. There are at least 6 cites. I don't understand why the eVeritas (UM Journal), WorldNews, and Top 500 Supercomputers list site are not enough to verify all the 'claims' (statement of facts) in the article. It's not like any research theories are being proposed. We here (location), we do this (list of topics), we offer this (equipment specs). The Center has been around since 2007. It's part of the UM Research network. If it's not 'important' enough, then okay, but it's verifiable by reliable sources (in my opinion). I feel like I have adequately cited it. Would you please tell me what else I can do (if there is anything)? I want people to know the CCS exists. It's as big a part of UM as anything else already listed there.


Actionmoviefreak (talk) 13:20, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

@Actionmoviefreak: Hi! One issue I see with the references is that they are mostly primary sources. It's fine to use primary sources to supplement the core information of an article, but they shouldn't be used as the main references for notability purposes. This is because primary sources are often not independent of the subject-matter at hand. Of the six references in the article, one is a press release and four are published under or by the University of Miami. Only one is independent, but it doesn't say anything substantial about the Center for Computational Science. If I were you, I'd try to find some independent, third-party sources that discuss the CfCC in significant detail. Thanks, wia (talk) 13:37, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
All except one of the references originate from the University itself and the only one that doesn't is merely a listing. You need to find and use a few totally independent sources that specifically discuss the CCS in substantial detail - only then will the subject's notability be established. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:00, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

17:54:00, 15 April 2015 review of submission by ChickDaniels[edit]


Thanks for everyone who has helped me thus far. This is my first attempt at creating a wiki page. One of the problems I am facing is I have very solid photographic evidence for all the data I am posting, and sometimes I see that it is more accurate data than what printed or online sources show. Specifically, about ten years ago I saved hundreds of photos off from e-bay that prove my data, but of course I cannot upload these photos. So I can appeal to faulty sources, or I can post what I know to be true based on photographic evidence. Could I use as a reference a current e-bay listing? If I did that, the auction will be gone in a week and the photo would last only 3 months or so. Any tips would be appreciated. ChickDaniels (talk) 17:54, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

The challenge you face with personal evidence is that it is considered to be anecdotal, and thus not properly admissible. You point out correctly that eBay sources are not useful. This is doubly the case since any pictures there are often breaches of copyright anyway. Linking to them would be a major issue for us.
WP:TRUTH may infuriate you, but it is a guiding principle. We will always prefer that which is cited to be true over that which is known to be correct. One thing you might find hard to do is to step away from the article for a while, actually a good while, and monitor what happens to it now it has been accepted. Be its father, not its mother. Let others have a go. Yes, revert vandalism, but allow yourself to be pleased when someone else picks up the baton, even, perhaps especially, when they have a different approach from your own. Fiddle Faddle 10:37, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

22:49:06, 15 April 2015 review of submission by Bandnan[edit]

My page has been marked for speedy deletion, im not sure exactly what part of the site is considered advertisement. Could i get assistance on how to maybe make it not advertisement. Bandnan (talk) 22:49, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

@Bandnan: Hi, your page was marked for speedy deletion because it constituted an unambiguous advertisement for RedArcGaming. You are welcome to create drafts here, but they have to adhere to Wikipedia's policies about neutral tone and about refraining from any kind of self-promotion, advertising, marketing or PR. Thanks, wia (talk) 02:31, 16 April 2015 (UTC)


April 16[edit]

Request on 09:51:25, 16 April 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by TAPNorton[edit]


I DID write and submit an article yesterday (15.04.15) but you now tell me that my article was empty. Where has my article gone?


TAPNorton (talk) 09:51, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

The article that was and is empty is at User:TAPNorton/Third Age Press. I think you wished to submit User:TAPNorton/Third Age Press which you have not yet done. I will take steps to initiate the move to the Draft: namespace for you. You need to submit your draft. The order of these things does not matter Fiddle Faddle 10:23, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

19:13:08, 16 April 2015 review of submission by RubyJMDE[edit]


As a first time user, I want to update the bio of General Richard H. Ellis to include a few extra lines regarding his service after retirement from the USAF. I do not know how to properly insert references. Thank you. RubyJMDE (talk) 19:13, 16 April 2015 (UTC)Jane

RubyJMDE (talk) 19:13, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Request on 23:58:40, 16 April 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Kimoller[edit]


I wrote for assistance a few days ago but could not initially find a record of my message, but now with some help I have found it, along with a response. I now have a more concrete inquiry about verifiability and notability. I submitted an article about Burton D, Carley (not accepted yet, on notability and verifiability grounds), who is a very prominent national level clergyman of Unitarian Universalism (see Wikipedia article) and has been pastor of the Church of the River (First Unitarian Church of Memphis) (see Wikipedia article) for 32 years. The fact that he is a prominent leader is easy to verify in a regular magazine publication called UU World. If I include in the submitted (revised) article, website locations where the archive of the magazine (published quarterly since at least 1999, with a current circulation of 126,000) provides independent references to his roles in the national organization, would that be sufficient to meet the verifiability and notability requirements? There are additional independent sources like this that verify Carley's role as a significant leader in Unitarian Universalism. Would it be useful to cite more of these additional sources? Would website addresses where information from these sources can be found be sufficient? For mentions in the magazine, we can cite issues, dates and page numbers of references to him if necessary, but I think it would seem to clutter the article.


Kimoller (talk) 23:58, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

@Kimoller: I have added a comment to Draft:Burton D. Carley which, while generic, answers your question. Fiddle Faddle 10:55, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

April 17[edit]

02:52:10, 17 April 2015 review of submission by Ventdanieljay[edit]


There are 3 people who have made significant steps in ventriloquism by continuing the Maher Studio which is a place that was run by Clinton Detweiler for many years before his passing and got many involved and staying active in ventriloquism including Jeff Dunham, Willie Tyler and Terry Fator. The also started a International Ventriloquist Society online in 2013. They are also play a major part in the Vent Haven Ventriloquist Convention held in Cincinnati since 1974. Their names are Mark Wade, Ken Groves and Tom Crowl. As of yet I have not been able to get these gentleman on Wikipedia. You have Jeff Dunham and Terry Fator on Wikipedia and if you asked both of them they would tell you that these gentlemen belong on here as well. Please let me know what I need to do. If you need references from Jeff, Terry, Ronn Lucas, Jimmy Nelson and Willie Tyler all of which who are on Wikipedia then let me know who they need to email to get Mark, Ken and Tom on Wikipedia. All of them would be more than happy to let you know what these three have done for the ventriloquist community. It's hard to find references but not hard to find people that would back what I'm saying. Thank you for your time.

Ventdanieljay (talk) 02:52, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Only published sources can be used as references on Wikipedia, personal knowlege and unpublished documents cannot be verified so are useless here. You need to look for news or magazine articles about these people to use as sources. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:35, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

09:32:53, 17 April 2015 review of submission by TAPNorton[edit]

I seem to be going round and round in circles. I have written my article twice. My user name is TAPNorton and the article title is Third Age Press. I have saved it as a draft but cannot find it. I have been told (1) that my submission was empty and now (2) my draft has been moved (but where to?) and (3) that it has been deleted.

TAPNorton (talk) 09:32, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Your article is here Draft:Third Age Press though with no references and a promotional tone it is unlikely to be accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 10:20, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

11:04:54, 17 April 2015 review of submission by Gothcatgirl[edit]


I submitted an article. It shows as accepted: Your submission at Articles for creation: C47-65ARTP has been accepted

However, the links does not lead to the article I submitted. In fact, that article is gone. When i go to my sandbox, I get this message: This is a redirect from a page that has been moved (renamed).

I don't know what that means, or why it has been redirected. there is no explanation. and, in fact, the link provided there, is STILL not to my article.

I'm ripping my hair out here, since this whole system seems geared towards the techsavvy. And noobs are left to fend for themselves.

no reasons are given for things that happen, and it's like swimming through molasses to try and figure anything out.

can someone PLEASE just tell me why the hell my original article is gone, and has been replaced by something which is not mine. i'm gonna lose my ish.Gothcatgirl (talk) 11:04, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Gothcatgirl (talk) 11:04, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

When you click on C47-65ARTP it takes you to Douglas DC-3, but at the top it says "(Redirected from C47-65ARTP)", and if you click on the link there it takes you to the redirect page, including the article history. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:59, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

13:04:27, 17 April 2015 review of submission by Mfnorton[edit]


I wanted to check on my re-submission of an article to be sure I have resubmitted it correctly. I have added many additional links to the draft and just want to be sure that it is actually in the que for review as I thought I submitted it over a week ago. Could you please let me know if I re-submitted it properly and if so, when I might expect to hear back? This is the link to the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Martin_Fleming Thank you, Maureen Norton Mfnorton (talk) 13:04, 17 April 2015 (UTC) Mfnorton (talk) 13:04, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

It was correctly submitted on the 7th, so it's currently in the "10 day old" category. By the way I have moved the Education section to before the Career section, as biographies should be broadly chronological, I fixed the "level" of the section headings and added a References section. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:43, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Symbol declined.svg Declined @Mfnorton: Unusually for me I have re-reviewed a draft. I have left a major comment about referencing on it. There is work to be done here. Fiddle Faddle 13:20, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Request on 14:36:52, 17 April 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Aaryesdee[edit]


The content what I posted here was my own, but used also in my website. Therefore I shall change the same.


Aaryesdee (talk) 14:36, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

@Aaryesdee No, it must not be the same, that is exactly why it cannot be accepted. With only a few exceptions Wikipedia may not contain direct copies of text that has been published anywhere else. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:58, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Request on 16:11:40, 17 April 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by F&ME01[edit]


I need assistance in how to get my article approved. How do I edit my article so it doesn't include copyrighted work?

F&ME01 (talk) 16:11, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

@F&ME01: You make something simple sound very complex. You must know from where you copied the material. What you need to do is remove it. 100% of your article must be in your own words. We also do not accept close paraphrasing.
Now, if I have missed your real question, please place a reply in this section. You do not need a new section to reply. Fiddle Faddle 08:26, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

19:31:08, 17 April 2015 review of submission by Jmiltonlewis[edit]


I have tried to submit this article multiple times and have had it rejected on three separate occasions as well as have had Financial Guard excluded from the list of notable robo-advisors. This company has been listed in articles by Kiplinger, the Wall Street Journal, and Bloomberg. The following is the article I tried to submit, I still cannot find any "advertisment". I believe Dharma blue works for a rival company and is actively trying to prevent this article.

Jmiltonlewis (talk) 19:31, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

@Jmiltonlewis: I have pinged Dharmablues to notify them of your comment here. It is extremely unethical to make an accusation, especially on a public noticeboard, and to attack another editor in this manner. Please do not ever do it again. Read WP:AGF and pull your horns in
I have collapsed the draft text that you brought here. Why did you do that? That was a rhetorical question. Please treat it as a rebuke.
I note that Draft:Financial Guard (United States) is pending review, and that you only resubmitted it for tis yesterday. Why is this so urgent? A bleat such as this is unlikely to hasten a review, and will almost certainly precipitate a nit-picking one when it happens.
So, be patient, cease accusing folk of things, and relax. You might even start to enjoy yourself. Fiddle Faddle 07:35, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
Symbol declined.svg Declined You seem to have misunderstood the prior reviewer's comments. You provided references of a sort, but not ones that helped verify any notability. I have left you a fuller comment on your draft. Fiddle Faddle 07:47, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

April 18[edit]

04:00:46, 18 April 2015 review of submission by Lunasasukeaeris[edit]


Are these revisions sufficient?

Lunasasukeaeris (talk) 04:00, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

06:23:13, 18 April 2015 review of submission by Yifymp[edit]


Hello, I'm just not too sure how to create the standard 'Contents' box for an article on an actor, also the side box to feature a headshot. Furthermore 'Television'

'Film'

'External Link' subheadings.

Please help.

Appreciated

Yifymp (talk) 06:23, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

@Yifym:As long as you use our headings for sections
==This is a main heading==

main text

===This is a subheading===

Sub text
the table of contents is automagic, and appears when it is needed. I thin your fourth main heading creates it. Before that it is not needed. Fiddle Faddle 07:19, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

14:05:51, 18 April 2015 review of submission by Birkwad[edit]


Interested in getting some assistance in learning how this subject in not notable. There is a little more work to add for content, but the New York Times, Many Law Reviews, International Newspapers, CNN, ABC Nightly News, and others have made a point of covering this person for an extended period of time and integrating his story into the greater fabric of american history, racism, and our flawed legal and justice system. By publishing this notable person's basic profile here we invite more people to add to it, which would be valuable to American History and the evolving nature of our justice system. Admittedly, the article is not complete, but that's why it should be published. How could I add different citations? Birkwad (talk) 14:05, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

@Birkwad: Wikipedia is not the place to publicise your good cause. If it has notability then it ha s place here. If not, not. There is no "why it should be published" here. it either merits inclusion or not.
Your question "How can I add different citations?" is answered by your doing more of what you did when you created references at all. However, your topic seems to fail, under WP:BLP1E. Matters of public interest are better covered by news media. Fiddle Faddle 14:23, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

17:43:42, 18 April 2015 review of submission by Akibah[edit]


I asked people on the help page to review the article as it presently stands and they thought it looked fine. I do not presently see any issues of personal opinion versus neutral and objective fact. Everything is documented. There are appropriate cross-references to other Wikipedia articles. In a personal note, the person who rejected the article told me that he was not sure the topic was notable. It was assigned by my professor at the University of Texas. There are similar articles for other groups.

Akibah (talk) 17:43, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

@Akibah: As the reviewer who pushed this draft back to you, I remain unsure that the topic is notable. It is not notable simply because it happens to be a part of a religion. WP:BURDEN means, pretty much, that you have to prove it with references et alia within the article, but not to me, Your role during this process is to prove it to the reviewer who decides to accept your draft, and then to watch what happens when the community as a whole gets its hands on it.. Your professor's opinion is of interest, but is not something that holds any more weight than your or my or any other person's opinion. Course assignments are not generally given out because they are inherently notable. They are given out to test your mettle and skill as a Wikipedia contributor, and to see how you interact with the community, how you draft articles, and how you handle the challenges on the way.
Our role as reviewers is to seek to ensure that an article will not immediately be subject to one of our deletion processes when it is accepted. That is why we push it back to the author. We want to accept articles. When and if this one is ready it will be a reviewer's joy to accept it. Fiddle Faddle 19:16, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

How do I enhance the notability? Keep in mind I an a noob for content creation and editing. However, I use Wikipedia for everything, and it seems consistent with that I have seen before. I have looked at the various links to notability and content creation, but am not seeing anything that jumps out at me as saying 'oh, here is the issue.' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akibah (talkcontribs) 20:11, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

@Akibah: The notability comes from what other people say about the topic. The work you need to do in my opinion (which is one editor's opinion only) is to research and research for references, on and offline, which speak about it. The issue is that these might be viewed as primary sources because they are likely to come from within the faith. WP:PRIMARY tells you that you can use primary sources, but with restraint. You certain;y need to find significant coverage of the topic, and the sources must be WP:RS. So you cannot enhance the notability, but you can demonstrate and verify it. I think this is a hard project, but that is not a bad thing. You're asking questions, which puts you ahead of the game.
I'd love other reviewers and editors to join in and advise you, even, perhaps especially, if they differ from me in opinion.Fiddle Faddle 20:19, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

19:06:27, 18 April 2015 review of submission by Shumbard[edit]


Shumbard (talk) 19:06, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Shumbard (talk) 19:06, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Help desks usually answer questions. I see you have a declined draft at Draft:Adaptive Behavior, but I have no idea what your question is. Your draft cannot go forward because there is already an article, but you can edit that article. Fiddle Faddle 19:20, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Request on 19:09:00, 18 April 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Krutz27[edit]



Krutz27 (talk) 19:09, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

@Krutz27: Works well enough as a resumé, I suppose, but not as a Wikipedia article. For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, and is in WP:RS. It needs work. We really do need to know the help you need when you visit the help desk, though Fiddle Faddle 19:27, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

April 19[edit]

06:19:54, 19 April 2015 review of submission by Akjayintx[edit]

I am failing to understand why a US national monument is not considered notable! I cited several references to the unveiling ceremony for the US National Monument! WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU WANT???!?! THIS IS A GREAT ARTICLE THAT I WORKED VERY HARD ON! Akjayintx (talk) 06:19, 19 April 2015 (UTC)