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Dear users of the Wikipedia!

As the most distinguished owner of this date (tis be my birthday!) I wish to invite you all to stand on ceremony and uphold tradition by talking like pirates during the whole course of September 19th which, in this year of 2006, shall fall on a Tuesday. Please also bear in mind that this is the finest day in our calender and I shall not be argued with.

My thanks, Cap'n Zoonotcher

P.s. please show your appreciation for this tremendous day by littering my vessel the Hangman with your generously donated dubloons. Fare ye well!

Zoonotcher 19:02, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1985 Mexico City earthquake[edit]

It occured on September 19, 1985. I believe it's notable. --Victor 12:25, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk like a Pirate day and formatting[edit]

While Talk like a Pirate Day is very cute, it isn't a holiday. It isn't recognized by any government and it doesn't celebrate an event in history or any good done by a person or people nor is it of religious significance. As an encyclopedia one shouldn't promote this joke as veracity, because it may confuse people into believe that this day is officially recognized or that indeed this is a holiday to recognize the deeds of pirates. I do not think it belongs on On This Day.

Also, what's with the format?

September 19: Independence Day in Saint Kitts and Nevis (1983), Armed Forces Day in Chile, International Talk Like a Pirate Day, Prinsjesdag in Netherlands.

Today's date is bold, that makes sense. Why is St. Kitts Bold but not Chile or the Netherlands? Why are Armed forces day and Prinsjesdag bold, and Independence day and pirate day not bold? It seems like there should be a standard for this.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthurian Legend (talk • contribs)

The standard is that almost all are bolded – except for Independence Day and Republic Day, since most of the content regarding the history where that specified country gained independence or first became a republic is generally posted on that country's article. As for International Talk Like a Pirate, I have no idea. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 06:32, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First documented use of the smiley emoticon[edit]

According to the article on Scott Fahlman was September 19, 1982. Is that notable enough for inclusion in Events for this date? cde 05:14, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was posted last year, but not this year because it now does not qualify under the selected anniversaries criterion that the featured and bolded article must be well written. Scott Fahlman is currently still a little stubby article and Emoticon is tagged for cleanup. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 06:27, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

length[edit]

Discussion moved to Talk:Main Page#DYK/SA

Prinsjesdag is a different date each year[edit]

Prinsjesdag is the day that the state budget for the next year is announced in the Netherlands. It is always on the third Tuesday in September, and therefore falls on a different date each year, in 2007 on September 18.

I cannot change it now, because the page is protected through cascade from the main page. Aron Beekman 11:31, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes[edit]

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Ted Kaczynski
New articles (unused): Betty and Barney Hill abduction
Omitted: Battle of Chickamauga; Witold Pilecki; Cannes Film Festival; Kostas Georgakis; 1985 Mexico City earthquake
Included: Battle of Poitiers (6th appearance, last in 2009; rescued from Ineligible); Giles Corey (first appearance); Our Lady of La Salette (first appearance); Nguyen Khanh (2nd appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Emoticon (4th appearance, last in 2006; rescued from Ineligible); Ötzi (2nd appearance, last in 2010)

—howcheng {chat} 05:52, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes[edit]

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Continuation War
Omitted: Armed Forces Day (ineligible—maintenance); Saint Kitts and Nevis (ineligible—maintenance); Battle of Poitiers; Giles Corey; Our Lady of La Salette; Nguyen Khanh; Emoticon; Ötzi
Included: Siege of Damascus (634) (first appearance); Battle of Chickamauga (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 150th anniversary); Glastonbury Festival (first appearance); Ted Kaczynski (9th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); 2006 Thai coup d'état (2nd appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible)

—howcheng {chat} 00:10, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

1946 Cannes Film Festival[edit]

According to 1946 Cannes Film Festival, the 1st Cannes Film Festival was held from 20 September to 5 October 1946. ... (talk) 07:35, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Giles Corey (maintenance); Cannes Film Festival (maintenance)
Omitted: Siege of Damascus (634); Battle of Chickamauga; Glastonbury Festival; Ted Kaczynski; 2006 Thai coup d'état
Included: Bacon's Rebellion (first appearance); Our Lady of La Salette (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Women's suffrage in New Zealand (3rd appearance, last in 2009; rescued from Ineligible); Continuation War (3rd appearance, last in 2010; 70th anniversary); Kostas Georgakis (2nd appearance, last in 2011)

—howcheng {chat} 07:07, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes[edit]

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Betty and Barney Hill abduction
Moved to Ineligible: Emoticon (maintenance)
Omitted: Bacon's Rebellion; Women's suffrage in New Zealand; Continuation War; Kostas Georgakis
Included: Battle of Poitiers (7th appearance, last in 2012); Witold Pilecki (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 75th anniversary); 1985 Mexico City earthquake (6th appearance, last in 2011; 30th anniversary); Ted Kaczynski (10th appearance, last in 2013; 20th anniversary)
Repeats: Our Lady of La Salette (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:53, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Software Freedom Day[edit]

Please add Software Freedom Day as a holiday for this day. Pikolas (talk) 12:17, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Can't do it. The article tagged for using too many primary sources. —howcheng {chat} 23:25, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes[edit]

Omitted: Battle of Poitiers; Our Lady of La Salette; Witold Pilecki; 1985 Mexico City earthquake; Ted Kaczynski
Included: Siege of Damascus (634) (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Bacon's Rebellion (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Women's suffrage in New Zealand (4th appearance, last in 2014); Ötzi (3rd appearance, last in 2012; 25th anniversary); 2006 Thai coup d'état (3rd appearance, last in 2013; 10th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 15:39, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes[edit]

Deleted: Cannes Film Festival (moved to September 20)
Moved to Ineligible: Witold Pilecki (maintenance); Continuation War (maintenance)
Omitted: Saint Kitts and Nevis (ineligible—maintenance); Bacon's Rebellion; Women's suffrage in New Zealand; 2006 Thai coup d'état
Included: Battles of Saratoga (2nd appearance, last in 2012; moved from October 7); Our Lady of La Salette (4th appearance, last in 2015); Kostas Georgakis (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Leo VI the Wise (first appearance); William Kirby (entomologist) (first appearance); Masaoka Shiki (first appearance)
Repeats: Siege of Damascus (634) (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total); Ötzi (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:44, 19 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Women's suffrage in New Zealand (Kate Sheppard is TFA for 2018); Barney and Betty Hill (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Continuation War
Omitted: Battles of Saratoga; Our Lady of La Salette; Kostas Georgakis; Ötzi; Leo VI the Wise; William Kirby (entomologist); Masaoka Shiki
Included: Battle of Poitiers (8th appearance, last in 2015); Giles Corey (2nd appearance, last in 2012; rescued from Ineligible); Witold Pilecki (3rd appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible); Glastonbury Festival (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Emoticon (5th appearance, last in 2012; rescued from Ineligible); Theodore of Tarsus (first appearance); Alexander Tilloch Galt (first appearance); Damayanti Joshi (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 15:50, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mexico earthquake[edit]

The article uses a magnitude of 8.0 M_w. This is supported by multiple sources, particularly the authoritative ANSS and ISC-GEM catalogues. The Richter magnitude M_L  is deprecated for use in larger earthquakes. Mikenorton (talk) 08:24, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Danny Valencia
Omitted: Battle of Poitiers; Giles Corey; Witold Pilecki; Glastonbury Festival; Emoticon; Theodore of Tarsus; Alexander Tilloch Galt; Damayanti Joshi
Included: Battle of Chickamauga (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Women's suffrage in New Zealand (5th appearance, last in 2016; rescued from Ineligible); Continuation War (4th appearance, last in 2014; 75th anniversary); 1985 Mexico City earthquake (7th appearance, last in 2015); Mariano Rivera; Leo VI the Wise (3rd appearance, last in 2017); William Kirby (entomologist) (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Ashot Nadanian (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 16:14, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Siege of Damascus (634) (date not certain)
New articles (unused): Jackie Collins
Omitted: Battle of Chickamauga; Women's suffrage in New Zealand; Continuation War; 1985 Mexico City earthquake; Mariano Rivera; Leo VI the Wise; William Kirby (entomologist); Ashot Nadanian
Included: Our Lady of La Salette (5th appearance, last in 2017); Witold Pilecki (4th appearance, last in 2018; 80th anniversary); Kostas Georgakis (4th appearance, last in 2017; 50th anniversary); Ted Kaczynski (11th appearance, last in 2015; 25th anniversary); Alfonso Litta (first appearance); Guy Gibson (first appearance); Kate Adie (first appearance; 75th birthday)

—howcheng {chat} 23:00, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes[edit]

Omitted: Witold Pilecki; Kostas Georgakis; Ted Kaczynski; Alfonso Litta; Guy Gibson; Kate Adie
Included: Battles of Saratoga (3rd appearance, last in 2017); Women's suffrage in New Zealand (6th appearance, last in 2019); Ötzi (5th appearance, last in 2017; 30th anniversary); Mariano Rivera (2nd appearance, last in 2019; 10th anniversary); William Robertson (historian) (first appearance; 300th birthday); Mabel Vernon (first appearance); Jackie Collins (first appearance)
Repeats: Our Lady of La Salette (2nd consecutive appearance, 6 total; 175th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:24, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Kostas Georgakis (maintenance); Emoticon (maintenance); 2006 Thai coup d'état (maintenance)
Omitted: Battles of Saratoga; Our Lady of La Salette; Women's suffrage in New Zealand; Ötzi; William Robertson (historian); Jackie Collins
Included: Battle of Poitiers (9th appearance, last in 2018); Continuation War (5th appearance, last in 2019); Battle of Nam River (first appearance); 1985 Mexico City earthquake (8th appearance, last in 2019); Leo VI the Wise (4th appearance, last in 2019); Ashot Nadanian (2nd appearance, last in 2019; 50th anniversary)
Repeats: Mariano Rivera (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total); Mabel Vernon (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:47, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]