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Documentation This talk page is associated with the Percy Jackson task force belonging to Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels. This page is used as a discussion forum to facilitate the efforts of task force members and other editors in article creation and improvement relating to Percy Jackson and The Olympians. Discussion for the Percy Jackson task force Percy Jackson & The Olympians capitalization Discuss here. Airplaneman talk 03:31, 31 October 2009 (UTC) Archivebox I've begun the archives at /Archive 1. Each will contain 15 old, inactive threads. Airplaneman talk 02:58, 20 November 2009 (UTC) Wouldn't it be better to have a bot do it? Benp123456789 (talk) 04:22, 25 December 2009 (UTC) Problems in the GAN, The Titan's Curse Glad to see that there are already to articles in the GA status, and I've just spotted a small problem in The Titan's Curse, the current Good Article Nominee of the PJTF. I already posted on the talk page of TTC, but I figured that talk pages receives little attention, so I'm posting here again. It's about the main characters, and I'm pretty sure that we should replace Nico with Bianca, since she actually got more spotlight on her than Nico in The Titan's Curse. Also, I wonder if Annabeth should also be removed from the main character area, since she only showed up before getting captured and after getting saved. --Mktsay123 (talk) 12:18, 23 November 2009 (UTC) Note:Conversation ongoing at the talk page. Input is welcome. Airplaneman talk 08:08, 27 November 2009 (UTC) IP claiming to be Rick Riordan 66.69.61.83 (talk · tag · contribs · count · WHOIS · ip details · trace · RBLs • logs · block log · arb · rfc · lta · spi · checkuser · socks ) claims to be Rick Riordan and has been removing "misquoted" stuff from PJ articles. here and here What should we do? Extremepro (talk) 21:43, 27 November 2009 (UTC) Keep watch and revert when necessary. Editor seems to have lost interest, anyway. Airplaneman talk 23:36, 21 December 2009 (UTC) If it was Rick Riordan, he should create a verified account... Because it probably wasn't, just keep watch. Benp123456789 (talk) 04:24, 25 December 2009 (UTC) Looking Good Hey everyone, this is NGG, haven't been editing much lately but I'm ready to help out again. I see you all have been busy with Sea of Monsters, well lets expand our horizons and push the rest of the articles up to GA or even higher. But if we all work together, sooner or later, we can get Percy Jackson back to featured topic. Anyway, just wanted to drop buy, see you all out there.----Next-Genn-Gamer 07:17, 31 December 2009 (UTC) I won't be as active this month (busy) but will continue to help keep the articles in line! It'd be great to have PJ as a featured topic!!! Airplaneman talk 03:54, 5 January 2010 (UTC) Our page has gone "Not Flashy"..... And other stuff... OK, I came in today finding the page has its big title gone..... A little desperating though...... Alright, to what I actually came to say: Seems like TTC is stuck at GAN, wonder if anything's wrong with it, or is it only that the reviewers aren't doing their job? Also, seems like someone has tagged the PJTO main page to be "fan-ish"... I wonder how we can fix it, or what's possibly wrong? I mean, I don't think it looks "fan-ish" to me, or maybe it's because I'm a fan myself. Anyways, seems like it isn't easy to get things on encyclopedia scale, huh? --Mktsay123 (talk) 16:06, 1 January 2010 (UTC) Yea... that hurt. Bad. I spent quite a lot of time organizing the page... sigh... some categories and codes got removed when the look was changed. All I was trying to do was to give the page a little life :'(. About the fan stuff - mostly in the plot summary and the Camp Half-Blood section. It's written from the fan's point of veiw because it assumes the reader knows, say, this or that guy's name. Airplaneman talk 03:53, 5 January 2010 (UTC) What the big problem is, though, is the quality of the prose, which could be improved. It's not extremely fanlike, now that I think of it. It just needs some extreme cleanup! Airplaneman talk 04:16, 5 January 2010 (UTC) Newsletter? Would anyone like to work with me to get a newsletter for the task force going?-- iBentalk/contribs 03:55, 21 January 2010 (UTC) Sure. You want to start something in the PJTF sandbox? I'm thinking of something like the {{WPAVIATION Announcements}} Aviation Noticeboard (link there), where they post the template on their talk page. The template is updated as needed. Check out this section on my talk page to see how it works if you haven't seen it yet. How does that sound? Airplaneman talk 06:44, 21 January 2010 (UTC) Sounds good. I'm not sure how much good I'll actually be at contributing to it, but I'll be glad to help copy-edit (is that word used for non-articles? same idea...) it. PrincessofLlyr (talk) 14:34, 21 January 2010 (UTC) I am part of the signpost so I should be able to help!-- iBentalk/contribsIf you reply here, please place a talkback notification on my page. 01:43, 26 January 2010 (UTC) Wow Hi, people. I just came to say that I'm really pleased that this project has become active, and has improved so much. It really seems nice if an idea works out, and I'd like to thank everyone who have tirelessly contributed for PJTF. Pmlineditor ∞ 12:08, 23 January 2010 (UTC) Request for comment on Biographies of living people Hello Wikiproject! Currently there is a discussion which will decide whether wikipedia will delete 49,000 articles about a living person without references, here: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people Since biographies of living people covers so many topics, nearly all wikiproject topics will be effected. The two opposing positions which have the most support is: supports the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, User:Jehochman opposes the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, except in limited circumstances, User:Collect Comments are welcome. Keep in mind that by default, editor's comments are hidden. Simply press edit next to the section to add your comment. Please keep in mind that at this point, it seems that editors support deleting unreferenced article if they are not sourced, so your project may want to pursue the projects below. Tools to help your project with unreferenced Biographies of living people List of cleanup articles for your project If you don't already have this and are interested in creating a list of articles which need cleanup for your wikiproject see: Cleanup listings A list of examples is here Moving unreferenced blp articles to a special "incubation pages" If you are interested in moving unreferenced blp articles to a special "incubation page", contact me, User talk:Ikip Watchlisting all unreferenced articles If you are interested in watchlisting all of the unreferenced articles once you install Cleanup_listings, contact me, User talk:Ikip Ikip 02:14, 26 January 2010 (UTC) Scope of the Task Force to include "The Kane Chronicles"? Well, seeing that The Kane Chronicles: The Red Pyramid is due out at May 5, 2010, I'm starting to wonder if we are going to cover that critera. According to the Scope mentioned on the PJTF page, our scope includes the books, the characters, and Things related to Rick Riordan. So I wonder if we are going to cover the series. It would be reasonable to include the next Camp Half-Blood series, but what about The Kane Chronicles. Opinions?--Mktsay123 (talk) 15:52, 31 January 2010 (UTC) My opinion would be that since we are the Percy Jackson Task Force, it's not absolutely necessary that we cover it. I would bet that some of us will still end up doing something with the articles, but it doesn't have to be part of the task force. That's my take... PrincessofLlyr (talk) 19:17, 31 January 2010 (UTC) I don't know much about The Kane Chronicles, but if the plot is related, we should cover it. Otherwise, I agree with PrincessofLlyr. Airplaneman talk 21:47, 1 February 2010 (UTC) I did a Google search. The books are about magic in Egypt, has nothing to do with demigods or Greek mythology. PrincessofLlyr (talk) 23:12, 1 February 2010 (UTC) OK, I see. Airplaneman talk 00:59, 2 February 2010 (UTC) I don't think so unless we want to be Rick Riordan Task Force.-- iBentalk/contribsIf you reply here, please place a talkback notification on my page. 03:18, 3 February 2010 (UTC) True... it's something to consider! Airplaneman talk 04:40, 3 February 2010 (UTC) Well, Rick Riordan wrote something about like "the bone maze" and we didn't cover that. Unless the group wants to expand focus through consensus, let's just work on PJTF and related articles (like the next Camp Half Blood series). It's a fine line; I'm just not interested in that, maybe a different task force.--iBentalk/contribsIf you reply here, please place a talkback notification on my page. 00:44, 5 February 2010 (UTC) See User_talk:IBen#PJTF--iBentalk/contribs 18:36, 6 February 2010 (UTC) new series? i'm not sure if there is going to be some sort of new series or more percy jackson, because at the end of the "last olympian" rachel says a new prophecy that may or may not happen within the next few hundred to thousand years, maybe immediately. so i am wondering if there will be either a new book with percy or a new series entirely with a new main character. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theraven713 (talk • contribs) 01:32, 5 February 2010 (UTC) Yes, there will be another Camp Half Blood series and this task force is planning on covering it.--iBentalk/contribsIf you reply here, please place a talkback notification on my page. 02:08, 5 February 2010 (UTC) Character Illustrations I noticed that in Nico di Angelo (Percy Jackson) there was an illustration and I was thinking we should add some for the other characters.--iBentalk/contribs 03:26, 10 February 2010 (UTC) There is also one on Rachel Elizabeth Dare (Percy Jackson). Previously there were illustrations on Percy, Annabeth, and Luke, but they were deleted. I am not any good with pictures and all the requirements for that, so I won't be much help, but those are the facts. PrincessofLlyr (talk) 04:14, 10 February 2010 (UTC) I'll try! (note:I am much better at drawing twigs than people)-- iBentalk/contribs 23:39, 10 February 2010 (UTC) I just checked, the pictures of Nico and RED are pictures from The Ultimate Guide, so it's actually questionable if those pictures can be used on WP. -Mktsay123 (talk) 03:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Roll Call I'm thinking of organizing a roll call to see who's still active/interested. I (or somebody) will notify members. Everyone's name will be moved to an "inactive" section; if they do not show interest by moving their name into the "active" section, they will be kept in the "inactive" section. They will be given two months' time. Does that sound OK? Airplaneman talk 04:56, 11 February 2010 (UTC) Sounds like a great idea! I have a feeling that we'll feel much smaller afterward, but that's okay. PrincessofLlyr (talk) 14:47, 11 February 2010 (UTC) Going forward with it. Airplaneman talk 21:30, 12 February 2010 (UTC) Looks good. Pmlineditor ∞ 08:12, 13 February 2010 (UTC) The Kane Chronicles Are you guys at all interested in The Kane Chronicles, Rick Riordan's new series? It does say on your main page that your are interested in Rick Riordan related stuff. Thank you, Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook) 17:41, 20 February 2010 (UTC) Er... see above. Airplaneman talk 18:26, 20 February 2010 (UTC) Sorry, I only saw that after I posted this. File:Blush.png Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook) 18:29, 20 February 2010 (UTC) Tyson the Cyclops article name Who decided the name "Tyson the Cyclops?" Wouldn't it be better to just call it "Tyson (Percy Jackson)" or Tyson (Cyclops)?-- iBen 18:56, 20 February 2010 (UTC) It's OK either way, I think. Airplaneman talk 22:33, 21 February 2010 (UTC) I think Tyson (Percy Jackson) would work best. A lot of the characters have names that are distinct like "Clarisse La Rue" and don't require a "subtitle". Annabeth Chase is a name used somewhere else, so she is named "Annabeth Chase (Percy Jackson)". Percy Jackson is used as a Disimbag because of the series name, and "Percy Jackson (Percy Jackson)" would be stupid. So he is named "Percy Jackson (character)". Blake (Talk·Edits) 23:57, 21 February 2010 (UTC) While I personally agree with Airplaneman, it should probably be renamed for consistency. PrincessofLlyr (talk) 02:30, 22 February 2010 (UTC)  Done — moved. Airplaneman talk 03:58, 2 March 2010 (UTC) Notifications I have a proposal for a notification system to alert users about current collaborations or things like that. There's a bot that can do it; I just need some feedback and opinions.--mono (talk) 00:06, 9 March 2010 (UTC) Oh great, a newsletter! I think it should be: Monthly or quarterly Tells about the most urgent task (in this case getting The Battle of the Labyrinth to GA Have a reminder about vandalism and have links to the to do list and PJ watchlist More ideas later if I can find any. BTW, it's not canvassing; if it were something like your RFA, it would be :). Airplaneman talk 00:13, 9 March 2010 (UTC) Sounds good to me! Like I've mentioned other places a newsletter has been mentioned, I'll be glad to help with writing. I'm not as good at organizing or technical aspects, but I think I can generally communicate with fairly decent English! Having some basic news announcements might be appreciated. Notifications of new PJ related articles, or even Rick Riordan stuff that the task force might not cover, but people might be interested in (The Kane Chronicles, for example). Just throwing it out there! PrincessofLlyr (talk) 00:27, 9 March 2010 (UTC) OK, let's start it at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Percy Jackson Task Force/Newsletter!--mono (talk) 23:47, 9 March 2010 (UTC) Once the newsletter is delivered, it'll be moved to an archive of some sort (in this case, it'll be moved to Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Percy Jackson Task Force/Spring2010Newsletter or something.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Airplaneman (talk • contribs)