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Fails WP:ONEEVENT. Forty two^{Thanks for all the fish!} 07:04, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep; that's a misapplication of WP:ONEEVENT because the article is about the event, not the person. Tisane ^talk/_stalk 07:21, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A large part of the article is about the perpatratorand the event itself is not of much consequence. (See talk page discussions).--Forty two^{Thanks for all the fish!} 08:33, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Yes, it was at the Pentagon but people get shot all the time in the National Capital Region. It was big news at the time but did not have a lasting impact. --NortyNort (Holla) 11:58, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - WP:NOTNEWS. No indication or assertion of lasting notability of the event. Tarc (talk) 13:26, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Agree with Tisane here. WP:ONEEVENT is not applicable as the article is about the event. And regardless of the WP:OR provided by NortyNort it's not about people getting shot all the time in the National Capital area, it's about a shooting at the Pentagon. This doesn't happen "all the time."--Feddx (talk) 15:14, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington, D.C.-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:11, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Virginia-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:12, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:12, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Plenty of WP:RS to meet WP:GNG. Lugnuts (talk) 17:27, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Obvious mis-application of WP:ONEEVENT/WP:BIO1E (Which stipulates that a person's article should not be created if they are notable for only one incident, not that both articles are unnecessary). Furthermore, this passes the WP:NOTNEWS description of "indiscriminate information" and routine announcements (something such as "Severe storm knocks out power to 100,000" might be true but not encyclopedia-worthy"). As an event, this also easily passes WP:EVENT and WP:GNG because of significant coverage and analysis (Also note that WP:NTEMP states "it does not need to have ongoing coverage.") This is a well-written article and there is no reason for deletion. --Fiftytwo thirty (talk) 18:04, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Fiftytwo thirty. Well-cited article, about a not yet forgotten incident. Bearian (talk) 00:50, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:EFFECT and Tarc. While a shooting at the Pentagon is certainly unusual, this shooting had no lasting effect beyond the immediate sticker shock of "Shooting at the Pentagon." While the article is well sourced, most of the sources detailing the shooting are from that day or the few days following. There was no long lasting impact, no expansive security initiative that followed it, no analysis to speak of. The only thing that happened was on March 5, everyone reported the shooting, on March 6, everyone talked about the man who did the shooting, on March 7, no one could find any more to the story other than a psycho attempted to murder Pentagon policemen. Tragic and shocking? Absolutely. Notable beyond a few news cycles? Probably not. AP1787 (talk) 02:47, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOT#NEWS. The notability of these sorts of incidents is difficult to evaluate. This incident has nothing particularly noteworthy to say other than "a mentally unstable man with a grudge against the government went out with a bang." Compared to the guy who flew a small plane into the IRS building in Texas, this case has not held the interest of the media or the public, as evidenced by the (lack of) lasting treatment by secondary sources and by Wikipedia page views. The 2010 Austin plane crash article gets gets over 280 page views a day, but this article only gets 37 page views a day. Abductive (reasoning) 03:46, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete apologies to the creator of the article but thank God this is a unique event of a sicko with no repitition. I suggest moving this to the wikinews so that it can be recycled if something like this happens again. --Luckymelon (talk) 05:08, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Sicko"? Please! Give Bedell his due. He was an anti-government freedom fighter with a sound anarcho-capitalist ethical foundation for using retaliatory force against the State. But, anyone challenging the state apparently has a mental illness, according to mainstream society. Tisane ^talk/_stalk 05:36, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How would shooting a couple of wage-slave security guards help fight the State? Abductive (reasoning) 06:58, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Delete''' apologies to the creator of the article but thank God this is a unique event of a sicko with no repitition. I suggest moving this to the wikinews so that it can be recycled if something like this happens again. --[[User:Luckymelon|Luckymelon]] ([[User talk:Luckymelon|talk]]) 05:08, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 :*"Sicko"? Please! Give Bedell his due. He was an [[anti-government]] freedom fighter with a sound [[anarcho-capitalist]] ethical foundation for using [[retaliatory force]] against the State. But, [http://ancaps.super-forum.net/psychology-edumbcation-indoctrination-f15/just-listen-to-the-standard-smear-campaign-and-propaganda-pentagon-shooter-had-a-history-of-mental-illness-t14747.htm anyone challenging the state apparently has a mental illness], according to mainstream society. <b>[[User:Tisane|<font color="#008000">Tisane</font>]]</b> <sup>[[User talk:Tisane|talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tisane|stalk]]</sub>  05:36, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
+::*How would shooting a couple of wage-slave security guards help fight the State? <font face="Cambria">[[User:Abductive|<font color="teal">'''Abductive'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Abductive|reasoning]])</font> 06:58, 10 August 2010 (UTC)