Talk:Spanish American wars of independence

About name see definition.--Dunkedun (talk) 16:09, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Main image

All the important articles about wars in Wikipedia use a collage of important battles or images as the main image. For this I made File:Independencia sudamericana.jpg, but it was recently removed as having perhaps some Argentine bias in the chosing of the images. I'm open to suggestions of possible ideas to replace images, but always having in mind that the battles should be key to the development of the war itself, not mere skirmishs, and that the heroes in them should not be repeated if possible.

The one of the crossing of the Andes have a higher size because it's a square image instead of a rectangular one. Yes, this arrangement gives it more predominance, but I don't think that's much of a problem: it is clearly the most important military action of the whole war, and the image in it have prominent images of San Martín and O'Higgins, heroes of Argentina and Chile, which is better than having 2 different images for both.

The battle of Salta may be a potencial candidate for replacement, if a better option is suggested. It was a key battle in Argentine independence but not a decisive one, and I'm not sure about its effects outside of Argentina. MBelgrano (talk) 00:35, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

• This picture is not Wikipedia:Neutral point of view

• Description:
  • Cap: San Martin (argentinian)
  • 4 minor pictures:
    • Pisba pass (Colombia)
    • Battle of Salta (argentinian)
    • Gauchos (argentinian)
    • Battle of Ayacucho (Perou)

Main objections:

• no NPOV San Martin is in the big cap of whole independence.
• There are no picture representative of Royalists
• There are no picture representative of independence of Viceroyalty of New Spain
• There are no picture representative of independence of Captaincy General of Venezuela
• etc etc etc

MBelgrano your image look argentinians pictures: then put your national picture in the article of Argentine War of Independence

Sugestions for New Image:

• Cap: continental map with actual boundaries (as now) or of independente nations at end of war: Mexican Empire, Great Columbia,Peru,Chile,Bolivia,Paraguay, and Rio de la Plata, and remaining colonies of Spain in Americas.
• The rest of four minor pictures:
  • one for main battle of Bolivar (Or equivalent)
  • one for main battle San Martin (Or equivalent)
  • one for military campaign in New Spain (Or equivalent)
  • one for Spain military effort (Or equivalent)

Bye.--Santos30 (talk) 10:05, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

And which specific images do you suggest? MBelgrano (talk) 13:07, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

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--Santos30 (talk) 14:35, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

I have done most the work on writing or translating articles on these war on the Norwegian Wikipedia, and I support the idea of a collage picture in the infobox. I made a navigation box: no:Mal:Kampanjeboks latinamerikansk uavhengighet to reflect upon the different aspects of the war, which you might consider as an idea, though I am not really confident in it (and one of the pictures (Bolívar crossing the Andes) had to be relaced). But otherwise I support Santos30's suggestion. Anyway, I hope you can use images that could be transferd to Commons and as such used on other projects. Yonaka (talk) 13:22, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

With respect to Hpav7, the previous image put by Santos30 with the smaller globe at the bottom was more esthetically pleasing. In the current version the globe is overpowering and diminishes the impact that these paintings have on the reader's imagination. A map, or maps, would go perfectly well in the body of the text.TriniMuñoz (talk) 09:51, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

I think the same. It may be up to discussion which should be the images to include, but if we check around wikipedia, the idea itself, using a collage of related images as the lead and most prominent image, is a common standard in articles about wars. See for example World War II, Hundred Years' War, American Revolutionary War, Vietnam War, among other great wars. The map was a good alternative until such a collage was made, but now that it is, and there are not very strong concerns about the images used by it, there's little reason not to use it in the same style other articles do. MBelgrano (talk) 11:31, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Agree with TriniMuñoz and MBelgrano. Salut, --IANVS (talk | cont) 22:54, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

As we are 3 supporting here the use of the collage as lead image (plus Santos 30 at my talk page, and the creator of the current one), I have proceed to restore it as the only image. The map has been moved to a section below that details the consequences of the war. MBelgrano (talk) 00:17, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Animated Map not working=

File:Hisparevol.gif does not work unless click on twice to see in full resolution. Even then it changes far to quickly and needs to be slowed down.Gaius Octavius Princeps (talk) 12:15, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

That was my file. I created the GIF with GraphicConverter® 6.7 back in Dec. 2009. It worked when I first uploaded it, but it stopped soon after. It must have been something with Graphic Converter's animation. I now have access to Adobe Photoshop CS3® 10.0.1 for the Mac, and I recreated it. I'm not the handiest when it comes to GIF creation, but following Octavii suggestion, I set the frame time at five seconds each. With the new file, the GIF seems to be functioning as viewed in the article. Best, TriniMuñoz (talk) 03:50, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Ready for GA?

Should we nominate this article for Good Article status, or do you think it needs more work? Cambalachero (talk) 23:06, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Y ready for Good Article --Santos30 (talk) 01:11, 20 November 2011 (UTC)