Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Fæ

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Statement of the dispute

In April 2010, I initiated Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Ash. It was delisted due to inactivity, with the comment that the user had "stopped editing Wikipedia". In fact, the person behind User:Ash had created a new account and continued to edit as User:Fæ, a situation of which I only recently became aware. Following this ANI discussion about inactive RFC/Us, I have decided to re-open the RFC/U about this user. To minimize confusion, I am starting a new RFC/U page with some more recent examples of the same issues dealt with in the original RFC/U, but this is simply a continuation of an already certified RFC/U and I may choose to leave out information already provided in the earlier request. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 00:38, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Desired outcome

From April 2010: "The desired outcome of this RFC/U is a voluntary agreement by Ash to cease editing BLPs (biographies of living people), which require "particular care" in the sourcing and verification of facts as per WP:BLP. Further investigation into the extent of the misuse of citations may also be warranted."

In addition to the above, I would like to ask that Fæ resign their adminship and, if they desire, go through a new RfA. Their RfA was tainted by what I view as deliberately misleading comments about past accounts. I am certain they would not have been given admin rights if their past account name(s) were known.

Description

From April 2010:

In a recent ANI thread (Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive604#Fraudulent referencing), Ash's use of a particular gay porn website as a reference was called into question. In the course of that ANI discussion, I requested that Ash respond to a BLPN discussion from December 2009 in which I had explicitly identified misuse of sources. After multiple requests ([1], [2], [3], [4], [5], & [6]), Ash did so, but denied any wrongdoing.

Believing that the subject matter (gay pornography performers) and sources (including gay pornography sites) were discouraging other editors from reviewing the evidence, I went through the articles recently created by Ash to find two that were not related to gay pornography (Pleasuredrome & Chariots Shoreditch). These articles had been edited almost exclusively by Ash, so that Ash was only sourcing their own additions. I found several instances of citations being added to support facts that were not present in the sources. I provided diffs and links to the original sources in a new section of the aforementioned AfD discussion. Despite the agreement of four other editors expressing concern about the citations ([7], [8], [9], & [10]), Ash continued to deny any wrongdoing or take responsibility for their actions. It is not clear to me why this wasn't swiftly dealt with at ANI.

More recent examples of the same type of sourcing are offered below to show that the problem still exists (and presumably has continued to exist throughout the time this user has edited as Fæ).

Evidence of disputed behavior

In November 2011, User:Agw65 created AG Weinberger, which was apparently an autobiography. It was deleted as a copyright violation. For unknown reasons, Fæ recreated the article, complete with "citation needed" tags on unsourced personal information. The sole reference in this BLP is attached to the sentence "Standard Weinberger 1997, this album earned the recognition of the Romanian Composers’ Union, which has never formally recognized the Blues genre, awarding it “Best Jazz Album of the Year” in 1997". The reference contains no such information and in fact is a very short Billboard capsule summary of albums from Romania. Remember that Fæ was already an admin at this point.

In a piece of sourcing remarkably similar to those in the original RFC/U, Fæ sourced the statement "The beach is considered friendly for naturists and gay tourists" in Voidokilia beach to a guide in the back of a gay tourist advertising magazine. The complete text of that section is "Situated after Pylos and a a[sic] gulf with a big lagoon of murky water and is suitable for nudists" (in both English and Greek). Fæ added an image to the article, with the caption "Naturism on the south end of the beach". It should be noted that this image File:Voidokilia naturists.jpg is Fæ's own work and upload. It should likely also be noted that a map created by Fæ and added to the article by Fæ was deleted on Commons as plagarism. None of these things are the types of actions that we should expect from admins or experienced editors.

Applicable policies and guidelines

1. Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons
2. Wikipedia:Verifiability
3. Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources

Users certifying the basis for this dispute

From April 2010:{{quote|1=

1. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 15:50, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

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Outside view by Themfromspace

Ash quit under a cloud, with an active user RFC containing serious allegations about reliable sources and BLPs. If Fae really is Ash, ArbCom erred greatly in letting him stand for adminship without disclosing his past account to the community. With full transparency, its very likely the RfA wouldn't have passed.

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1. ThemFromSpace 20:39, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
2. MBisanz ^talk 21:44, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
3. I don't like obfuscation about previous accounts at all. There's no reason for it unless there's something to hide. Deor (talk) 23:58, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Outside view by Russavia

This request is simply an extension of harrassment by some other vile characters on Wikipediareview. Fae has undergone some unadulterated harrasment by various users on WR, and a lot of it is of the homophobic variety. DC, IMO, is very close to going over this line of harrassment, if they haven't already.

Editors should know that DC posted Fae's home address and phone number on WR, on a thread which was discussing Fae in a manner which can only be construed by any reasonable person as harrassment, so their claim here that they are only interested in Fae's Wikipedia activities is absolute and clear BS. (Whilst the posts in question by DC on WR have conveniently been deleted, this does not mean that a webcitation copy wasn't conversely conveniently made before these posts were deleted by WR, so if DC is going to deny ever having done this, they might want to think very carefully before responding to this).

In relation to:

In a piece of sourcing remarkably similar to those in the original RFC/U, Fæ sourced the statement "The beach is considered friendly for naturists and gay tourists" in Voidokilia beach to a guide in the back of a gay tourist advertising magazine. The complete text of that section is "Situated after Pylos and a a[sic] gulf with a big lagoon of murky water and is suitable for nudists" (in both English and Greek)

His sourcing in this instance is pretty much OK, it is in a section of the magazine which is giving details of gay-friendly resorts, hotels, and beaches in Greece. There are obviously doubts as to whether this is legitimate or part of homophobic harrassment directed towards Fae. It is obvious it is, because they made a point of including a photo which Fae had taken at this beach in their statement; obviously hoping to play in homophobic feelings which some editors may hold. It is absolutely atrocious and disgusting behaviour to be engaging in.

As to anything on Commons, DC should not be importing disputes from Commons to enwp. If there are issues on Commons, Commons is the correct place to raise them; rather than using it as cannon fodder on enwp.

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1. Y u no be Russavia ^{ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)} 00:06, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

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