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Pre-revolutionary wars of the United States

Matches with higher cat Category:Pre-revolutionary history of the United States, avoids confusion with Spanish-American War, etc. as a Wars of American Colonization vs. Wars of America as a Wee Colony... vs. Various Wars in North America by Various Colonizing Powers jengod 23:51, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:User bilingual

Delete, pointless category, especially given it has only one member — Superbfc 23:49, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ego Defense Mechanisms

Delete - Article(?) in the Category namespace. Unpopulated as a category. ~ BigrTex 23:06, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Second Life Residents

Delete. The apparent purpose of this category is to categorize everyone that plays or has played Second life. People are placed in this category based on the criteria at Resident (Second Life). This blurs the distinction between fantasy and reality, given that nobody can actually be a resident of a game. Even if the name were changed to "Second Life players", it seems (to me) like an rather arbitrary or even frivolous categorization scheme; fancruft perhaps. As nominator, I should note that I had some debate with the creator of this category at User talk:Shotwell#removing_categories. shotwell 23:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and listify. Particpation in this game/virtual reality experiment/whatever-label-it-should have is not a defining charactersiustic of any of the people categorised. --BrownHairedGirl ^{(talk) • (contribs)} 23:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Football (soccer) deaths

Delete. Seriously, what's the purpose of this category? Footballers, like everyone else, eventually die - and right now, the category just contains a seemingly random selection of deceased footballers. If the category was intended for footballers who died during a game, there already exists a category named Deaths in sport. --Badmotorfinger 22:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Religious leaders in Michigan

Merge into Category:American religious leaders, overcategorization, only one daughter category, see also other discussion. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 22:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:South American religious leaders

Delete, in favor of country based categories, see also December 5th discussion. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 22:40, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:High School Musical songs

Category contains only two songs (previously three), one of which is going through AFD Will ^{(Tell me, is something eluding you, Sunshine?)} 22:32, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

People from Japanese cities

Category:People from Atsugi to Category:People from Atsugi, Kanagawa

Category:People from Beppu to Category:People from Beppu, Ōita

Category:People from Chigasaki to Category:People from Chigasaki, Kanagawa

Category:People from Fukuyama to Category:People from Fukuyama, Hiroshima

Category:People from Hadano to Category:People from Hadano, Kanagawa

Category:People from Hatsukaichi to Category:People from Hatsukaichi, Hiroshima

Category:People from Higashihiroshima to Category:People from Higashihiroshima, Hiroshima

Category:People from Hioki to Category:People from Hioki, Kagoshima

Category:People from Isahaya to Category:People from Isahaya, Nagasaki

Category:People from Isehara to Category:People from Isehara, Kanagawa

Category:People from Izumi to Category:People from Izumi, Kagoshima

Category:People from Kagoshima to Category:People from Kagoshima, Kagoshima

Category:People from Kawasaki to Category:People from Kawasaki, Kanagawa

Category:People from Kure to Category:People from Kure, Hiroshima

Category:People from Kurume to Category:People from Kurume, Fukuoka

Category:People from Minamiashigara to Category:People from Minamiashigara, Kanagawa

Category:People from Okuchi to Category:People from Okuchi, Kagoshima

Category:People from Onomichi to Category:People from Onomichi, Hiroshima

Category:People from Sagamihara to Category:People from Sagamihara, Kanagawa

Category:People from Soo to Category:People from Soo, Kagoshima

Category:People from Takehara to Category:People from Takehara, Hiroshima

Category:People from Usuki to Category:People from Usuki, Ōita

Category:People from Yokosuka to Category:People from Yokosuka, Kanagawa

Category:People from Zama to Category:People from Zama, Kanagawa

Category:People from Zushi to Category:People from Zushi, Kanagawa

In Japan Manual of Style, city names should be "city, prefecture" except in special cases. Most of the 31 subcats in Category:People by city in Japan fail this guideline. They are listed above. Exceptions for existing subcats within that category are for Hiroshima, Kobe, Kyoto, Nagasaki, Tokyo, and Yokohama. For the 25 suggested renamings, there is consensus for the "city, prefecture" usage.

Rename, as nominator, to comply with existing Japan manual of style regarding city names in articles. Neier 22:27, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Cities, towns and villages in Montenegro

Rename to Category:Cities, towns, and villages in Montenegro because proper English grammar says to use a comma after each part of the same parts of speech being used, like I bought a DVD player, game console, and a TV. --Crna Gora 22:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

category:Worst Actor Razzie

category:Worst Actress Razzie

category:Worst Picture Razzie

category:Worst Supporting Actor Razzie

category:Worst Supporting Actress Razzie

category:Worst Director Razzie Nominee

category:Worst Picture Razzie Nominee

Delete all This is a follow up to two recent deletion of similar categories. (here and here). The category for actresses was deleted previously here. I am working on articles about actors, which suffer from category clutter. The argument that these are trivial and not career defining has been stated in several different ways in the previous discussions. The category names are badly formed and lists of award "winners" already exist. Sumahoy 21:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep winners, delete nominees - In reviewing the previous discussions, it looking like there was consensus to delete nominee categories, but there were a number of arguments in favor of keeping the winner categories. Note that the Razzies are, in fact, a notable (or, if you prefer, infamous) mark on a celebrity's career. I'd be in favor of keeping the winner categories, and removing the nominee categories (as that seems consistent with the previous discussions). Dugwiki 22:19, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep winners. Otto4711 23:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keeping winners sounds like a good compromise... AnonMoos 23:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Issue Summaries

Delete, Reading the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Collaboration#Category:Issue_Summaries it appears this category is intended as a home to articles which will summarise issues of comic book series. Such articles, are, I would suggest outside of our remit, and I would therefore state this category is too. We don't summarise issues on Wikipeldia, and we certainly shouldn't be a repository for detailing which issues a given issue of a series references within footnotes. I'm not clear that this is anything but overcategorisation and also precluded by the policy on plot summaries at WP:NOT. If we open up Wikipedia to this sort of content I posit it will be unmaintainable. Every fictional work would be subject to the same approach, even every real life person or building could be subject to similar articles, for example a listing of all the houses in a given road. Bad idea. Steve block Talk 20:02, 6 December 2006 (UTC) Delete - Bad idea for Wikipedia. Good idea elsewhere. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 23:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Anti-Semitic_canards

~~Delete~~, The definition of canard is a "deliberately false story". None of the things in this category seem to fit that definition, and thus, it seems superflous given the fact that we have an anti-semitic category already. .V. 19:45, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose deleting, might support a good rename proposal. It's nice to have a single place to collect together the specifically anti-Jewish myths or stories that never die, but continue on and on decade after decade, no matter how often they've been debunked. If you can come up with a better name, then suggest it, but the category should not be deleted because its name might be improved... AnonMoos 20:41, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I can think of some names. "Anti-Semitic Beliefs", "Anti-Semetic Allegations"... all of which fall under the spectrum of the currently-existing category of Anti-Semitism. I believe all the articles in it are already tagged with Anti-Semetism. Any substitute for "canard" that would apply in this case would essentially be nearly the same as "anti-semitism" as it stands right now. At the moment, it's basically a POV category, filled with things that have not been adequately proven as hoaxes. So not only is the category POV-filled in itself, it's redundant. .V. 20:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, "anti-Semitic beliefs" would be completely inadequate, while "Anti-Semitic allegations" is also ultimately unsatsifactory (because anybody can come up with a new "allegation" at any time, whereas "Anti-Semitic canards" is reserved for myths or stories that never die, but continue on and on decade after decade, no matter how often they've been debunked).

I think that the "Anti-Semitic canards" category currently does a rather good job of collecting together, in one particular place, many of the anti-Jewish myths or stories that never die, but continue on and on decade after decade, no matter how often they've been debunked. If you can think of a better name which captures the specific function of this particular category, that would be good — but dispersing its contents into other, less specific, categories (with different purposes) would not be good... AnonMoos 21:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How about "Persistent Anti-Semitic Beliefs"? It doesn't pass a POV judgment (like canard does) and it emphasizes the "decade after decade" aspect. .V. 21:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would have no problems with a rename to "Persistent antisemitic narratives"... AnonMoos 21:29, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And so it shall be renamed as such .V. 22:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RENAME - I change my vot£ to rename as per above :3

Category:Roman Catholic bishops of Ohio

Delete; bishops are generally classified by diocese not US state, and there is no Roman Catholic Diocese of Ohio. Mairi 18:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Category:American Roman Catholic bishops. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 21:27, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Austin High Maroons

Saw this added to several pages that I watch. Do we *really* want to start categorizing people by the high school they attended? This just really, really does not seem to me to be a defining characteristic. - TexasAndroid 17:32, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and rename to Category:Austin High School alumni per convention. We started classifying people by high school a long time ago and there are at least 100 such categories globally , probably more. Sumahoy 21:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I think it's important biographical fact-it gives users an idea of where the person comes from and who they are. Anytime you find out that someone is from the same town or city as you, don't you always find yourself wondering "I wonder which high school they went to"? MaroonFrog 21:27, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Per your request to change the name of the category, I should point out that there are numerous Austin High Schools, but only this one has the unique mascot of "Maroons"

Category:Buildings and structures by continent, Category:Newspapers by continent, Category:People by continent, Category:Music by continent, Category:Transportation by continent and Category:Literature by continent

Rename to "by country" instead, as we group just about everything else that is man-made by nationality or country border. (Radiant) 15:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For music it might make sense to rename to Category:Music by region, similar to Category:Culture by region and such, as there are meaningful groups of music above countries, but I don't think continents are as meaningful (for example, see Asian music). Delete the rest, as by country or by nationality categories already exist. Mairi 18:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The "by country" categories already exist, and merging these into them would just create a mess. Sumahoy 21:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, the "by country" categories make more sense for man-made things. Continents are better for geographic features, etc. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 21:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I'll grant that these exist primarily as an artifact of creating appropriate non-stub parent categories for stub categories, where there is decided tendency to group by continent, but their various children such as Category:African literature do exist and throwing them into the by country categories doesn't seem appropriate to me. I could accept the by region rename proposed by Mairi, but not outright deletion. Caerwine Caer’s whines 22:06, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:African religious leaders

The scheme Category:Religious leaders by nationality goes by country, not continent. Only one member here, which should be moved. (Radiant) 15:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete in favor of country-based categories. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 21:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Blackpool Tramway stops

Delete: The stops are all minor, undeserving of articles and all have been Proposed for Deletion. Are all bus, streetcar, tram, and lightrail stops in 6 continents to be given Wikipedia articles and categories? I think not. Hu 12:45, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:R class destroyers

Empty cat made redundant by Category:R class destroyers (1916). Emoscopes ^Talk 12:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Galaxy formation and evolution

Delete - This is an open-ended category that could potentially include any article on any process involved in galaxy formation and evolution, including any article related to star formation, interacting galaxies, or supermassive black holes. Its usefulness for organization is questionable. Currently, the category does not contain anything except for protogalaxy and galaxy formation and evolution, both of which appear in other categories as well. Given that the category is not useful for organization and given that the category's contents are already listed in other categories, this category can be deleted. Dr. Submillimeter 11:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pre-Hispanic cultures of Mexico

Category:Pre-Hispanic cultures of Mexico to Category:Pre-Columbian cultures of Mexico

Rename, per ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Pre-Columbian cultures et. al., "pre-Columbian" is the much more commonly used description for these historical cultures. cjllw | TALK 11:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:IAU planet debate

Delete - This is an open-ended category that contains any articles that may have any relevance to the discussion in the 2006 definition of planet article, including articles on general planet designations, articles on specific objects, lists of solar system objects, and a few general articles such as Solar System. Instead of using this category, the articles should be linked to each other within their texts as is appropriate. Dr. Submillimeter 11:02, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Dr. Sub. These disparate subjects are (or can be) adequately joined through links in their articles' text. ×Meegs 12:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete category does not lend itself to editorially consistent application. --ScienceApologist 15:02, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment As creator of this category, I'm kinda neutral on the issue. One of the main purposes for creating this aricle was back when the definition was in flux, and several articles were getting changed every few days. I added them to this cat so we could keep track of the changes. Now that everything is static, that need isn't present anymore, but maybe a category that shows the objects that are still potentially in flux might be necessary. Now that they have names, Category:Plutinos, Category:Dwarf planets, etc. could serve this niche well enough probably. McKay 17:42, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- New categories would be reasonable as long as the names are generally accepted within professional astronomy. ("Dwarf planet" and "plutino" are in use within professional astronomy.) Dr. Submillimeter 21:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Paris Métro

Category:Paris metro to Category:Paris Métro

Category:Paris Metro line 1 to Category:Paris Métro line 1

Category:Paris Metro line 2 to Category:Paris Métro line 2

Category:Paris Metro line 3 to Category:Paris Métro line 13

Category:Paris Metro line 3bis to Category:Paris Métro line 3bis

Category:Paris Metro line 4 to Category:Paris Métro line 4

Category:Paris Metro line 5 to Category:Paris Métro line 5

Category:Paris Metro line 6 to Category:Paris Métro line 6

Category:Paris Metro line 7 to Category:Paris Métro line 7

Category:Paris Metro line 7bis to Category:Paris Métro line 7bis

Category:Paris Metro line 8 to Category:Paris Métro line 8

Category:Paris Metro line 9 to Category:Paris Métro line 9

Category:Paris Metro line 10 to Category:Paris Métro line 10

Category:Paris Metro line 11 to Category:Paris Métro line 11

Category:Paris Metro line 12 to Category:Paris Métro line 12

Category:Paris Metro line 13 to Category:Paris Métro line 13

Category:Paris Metro line 14 to Category:Paris Métro line 14

Category:Paris Metro rolling stock to Paris Métro rolling stock

Category:Paris metro stubs to Paris Métro stubs

Category:Metro stations in Paris 1er to Métro stations in Paris 1er

Category:Metro stations in Paris 2e to Métro stations in Paris 2e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 3e to Métro stations in Paris 3e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 4e to Métro stations in Paris 4e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 5e to Métro stations in Paris 5e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 6e to Métro stations in Paris 6e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 7e to Métro stations in Paris 7e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 8e to Métro stations in Paris 8e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 9e to Métro stations in Paris 9e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 10e to Métro stations in Paris 10e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 11e to Métro stations in Paris 11e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 12e to Métro stations in Paris 12e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 13e to Métro stations in Paris 13e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 14e to Métro stations in Paris 14e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 15e to Métro stations in Paris 15e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 16e to Métro stations in Paris 16e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 17e to Métro stations in Paris 17e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 18e to Métro stations in Paris 18e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 19e to Métro stations in Paris 19e

Category:Metro stations in Paris 20e to Métro stations in Paris 20e

Category:Metro stations in Aubervilliers to Métro stations in Aubervilliers

Category:Metro stations in Bagnolet to Métro stations in Bagnolet

Category:Metro stations in Bobigny to Métro stations in Bobigny

Category:Metro stations in Clichy to Métro stations in Paris Clichy

Category:Metro stations in Levallois-Perret to Métro stations Levallois-Perret

Category:Metro stations in Neuilly-sur-Seine to Métro stations in Neuilly-sur-Seine

Category:Metro stations in Pantin to Métro stations in Pantin

Category:Metro stations in Puteaux to Métro stations in Puteaux

Category:Metro stations in Saint-Mandé to Métro stations in Saint-Mandé

Category:Metro stations in Vincennes to Métro stations in Vincennes

Rename, as per Paris Métro and names of individual Paris Métro stations. Metro Mover 10:36, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rename - The accent above the "e" is appropriate. However, redirects are needed from the old names to the new names so that people do not have to struggle to type e's with accents. Dr. Submillimeter 11:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rename on the condition that redirects are also created. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 14:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The convention is disputed as mentioned on Wikipedia:Naming conventions (standard letters with diacritics) so a move would appear unwise until a consensus is reached. Looking at the current version of the proposed policy: "Diacritics should only be used in an article's title, if it can be shown that the word is routinely used in that way, with diacritics, in common usage. " This is not the case with the word "metro" which is commonly used in english without the accent as in Tyne and Wear Metro for instance. AndrewRT(Talk) 19:45, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - yes, the word "metro" is commonly used in English to mean an underground railway or rapid transit system, but all of these cases relate exclusively to the Paris Métro, not to metro systems in general. Metro Mover 21:01, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Thanks for pointing this out but I'm afraid I still stick by my first view. In many cases - e.g. Category:Metro stations in Pantin the word metro is being used as a common noun not a Proper noun and hence my argument stands. 86.128.40.247 22:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree - if these "metro stations" were Métro stations and RER stations, then yes, they would be common noun metro stations. But they're not - they're proper noun Métro stations. In fact, the text on the category page clearly states "This is a list of Paris Métro stations in the municipality of Pantin". Metro Mover 22:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Idol series contestants

Category:Idol series contestants to Category:Idol series participants

Rename - another bunch of "contestant" to "participant" changes, to allow categorizing non-contestant participants and to standardize cat names. Otto4711 05:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also nominating:

- As the creator of Category:Philippine Idol contestants, can it be speedily deleted, since it's empty? --Howard the Duck 05:32, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nomination. But does wikipedia really need to record and categorise the ephemera of low-budget reality TV? :( -BrownHairedGirl ^{(talk) • (contribs)} 09:39, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to agree and wouldn't mind at all if all the Idol stuff got voted for deletion, but then I'm sure there are plenty of things that interest me that Idol worshippers would disdain. But since we're going to have them, might as well have them be consistent. However, after wading through hundreds of models misfiled in Category:Reality television participants I have resolved, should I ever meet Tyra Banks, to punch her right in the kisser. Otto4711 20:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Towns In Augusta County, Virginia

Delete, fully redundant with existing category, Category:Augusta County, Virginia. SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but Rename to Category:Towns in Augusta County, Virginia. As county categories grow in size it is often useful to move the sub-municipality/community categories into their own subcategory; for instance see Category:Volusia County, Florida or Category:San Bernardino County, California.-choster 15:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Celebrity Fit Club contestants

Category:Celebrity Fit Club contestants to Category:Celebrity Fit Club participants

Rename - same as other "contestants" to "participants" changes, so that non-contestant participants may be properly isted and because participants is the more common descriptor. Otto4711 04:51, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TMNT episodes categories

rename as subcategory on Category:Episodes by television series. Wqxq 03:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

American businesspeople by ethnicity

Merge all into Category:American businesspeople, either we categorize American businesspeople by ethnicity, or we don't. Do we consider it relevent? -- ProveIt ^(talk) 02:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If we keep these, we ought to rename Category:Irish-American Businesspeople to Category:Irish-American businesspeople. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 02:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This nomination seems useful, so that we can consider all the ethnicities together, but I wonder whether there isn't some way of having a broader disussion on the relevance of ethnicity in categorising people by occupation, rather than restricting it to busnesspeople. Category:American people by occupation and ethnic or national origin is grossly underpopulated at the moment, but exploring Category:American people by ethnic or national origin reveals a lot o categories which ought to be in there, such as Norwegian American football players, Filipino American writers and zillions of others.
Personally, I think that these triple intersections should mostly be deleted, because it's usually not relevant: what particular significance does Norwegian ancestry have to do with the sporting career of the one footballer listed? I would like to see a prsumption against all these categories, with these triple intersections kept only where is demonstrable relevance, i.e. where ethnicity clearly has a major bearing on the career or work of the majority of those who would fit the category. In general, I think that it may have relevance for some artistic careers, but not otherwise. --BrownHairedGirl ^{(talk) • (contribs)} 09:27, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:WPSUFC

Merge into Category:WikiProject Sheffield United articles. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 02:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom as obvious duplicate, and unhelpful abbreviation. If this can be speedied, I'd support that (and if there isn't a way of speedying it, there should be!). --BrownHairedGirl ^{(talk) • (contribs)} 09:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Religious leaders by state

relevent discussions

Delete, as overcategorization. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 01:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as overcategorization per previous discussions. Most clergy and religious leaders do not not neatly fit those geographical boundaries-by-state: many move in the course of their careers and would end up in lots of these categories, while others have posts which cross state boundaries and would land in multiple categories simply as a result of one holding position. --BrownHairedGirl ^{(talk) • (contribs)} 09:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP in fact, most religious leaders DO fit rather neatly into such categories. Moreover, when broaded (as these categories are) to include a wide range of religious leaders (rather than just Bishops, as the previous discussions mostly did), this is certainly as helpful as other categories by U.S. State. Thanks! Pastorwayne 12:08, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Provided you specify in the categories that the article must specifically mention that the person was born or notably lived in that state, there is little danger of overpopulation. As an example, I considered a similar question when looking at dividing american lawyers by state. The question at hand was that many lawyers are licensed to practice in multiple states, leading to a potential of having multiple state categories per lawyer article. But what I found was that in practice very few (possibly 10%) lawyer articles actually mentioned multiple states, and of those the vast majority only mentioned two states. I would be therefore be incredibly surprised if more than a handful of articles on religious leaders actually notably mention more than one or possibly two states. Moreover, dividing by state is a good way to subdivide the otherwise possibly unwieldy national category, and also gives readers a way to identify notable religious leaders in a specific state or region if desired. Thus, provided the category definitions are properly specified to restrict inclusion based on notable appearance of the state in the article, I recommend keeping these categories. Dugwiki 16:20, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

excellent thoughts/suggestions. Thanks! Pastorwayne 17:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

At the moment, Category:American religious leaders contains a grand total of 61 members. If there were thousands of members then building subcats would make sense ... but a 50 way split of 61 people yeilds dozens of tiny categories. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 21:48, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, ok, I was thinking (incorrectly) that there were significantly more articles involved. If there are only 60 or so articles, then subcategorizing by state probably isn't necessary yet and these could be safely deleted. However, if and when the number of articles grows significantly into the hundreds or more, then subdividing by state would be a good approach. Dugwiki 22:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Inactive musical groups

The following discussion is an archived debate regarding the category or categories above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was speedy delete. Mairi 02:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete; recreated since previous deletion. Unint 01:37, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete as recreated content. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 01:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete. Can't it just be speedy tagged? -Amarkov ^blah_edits 02:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Religious leaders in the United States by state

Merge into Category:American religious leaders, see also related discussions of clergy and bishops. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 01:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep See above reply regarding state divisions in the related discussions for my reasoning. Dugwiki 16:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rugby League State of Origin

Listify / Delete all of these are actually articles, not categories. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 01:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Listify / Delete per nom. --BrownHairedGirl ^{(talk) • (contribs)} 09:34, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:North American bishops

Delete, yet another in the ocupations by continent series. The only current member is already parented by Category:Bishops by nationality. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 00:35, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Redundent parent cat, only a single daughter cat, and no entries.--Andrew c 01:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Halloween (film series)

rename as Halloween (film series).Riwna 00:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to match disambig.--Andrew c 01:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per above. disambig needed. --BrownHairedGirl ^{(talk) • (contribs)} 09:35, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom Dugwiki 16:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MLB categories

rename as Major League Baseball. Riwna 00:17, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename all but last two. To match the parent cat, Category:Major league pitchers, I propose renaming those two to Category:Major League pitchers who have pitched a no-hitter and Category:Major League pitchers who have pitched a perfect game (all of the MLB player by position categories drop the word "baseball").--Andrew c 01:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rename all, including the last two. The other MLB player by position categories shoud also include the word baseball (outside the US, the term "Major League" alone carries no meaning). -BrownHairedGirl ^{(talk) • (contribs)} 09:37, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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 :{{lc|Second Life Residents}}<br/>
 '''Delete'''. The apparent purpose of this category is to categorize everyone that plays or has played [[Second life]]. People are placed in this category based on the criteria at [[Resident (Second Life)]]. This blurs the distinction between fantasy and reality, given that nobody can actually be a resident of a game. Even if the name were changed to "Second Life players", it seems (to me) like an rather arbitrary or even frivolous categorization scheme; fancruft perhaps. As nominator, I should note that I had some debate with the creator of this category at [[User talk:Shotwell#removing_categories]]. [[User:Shotwell|shotwell]] 23:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' and listify. Particpation in this game/virtual reality experiment/whatever-label-it-should have is not a defining charactersiustic of any of the people categorised. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|BrownHairedGirl]] <sup>[[User_talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]]  • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</sup> 23:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
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