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:::Well, I tend to agree with you. On the other hand, I also believe that the WMF really needs to ensure they properly control the access to these tools. I've pinged Philippe, who has in turn sent the question on to Legal, just to clarify this issue. [[User:Risker|Risker]] ([[User talk:Risker#top|talk]]) 23:31, 17 November 2013 (UTC) |
:::Well, I tend to agree with you. On the other hand, I also believe that the WMF really needs to ensure they properly control the access to these tools. I've pinged Philippe, who has in turn sent the question on to Legal, just to clarify this issue. [[User:Risker|Risker]] ([[User talk:Risker#top|talk]]) 23:31, 17 November 2013 (UTC) |
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::::The funny thing is I think a few other wikis do have non-admin CU/OS who were ArbCom-appointed... not sure how that happened. --'''[[User:Rschen7754|Rs]][[User talk:Rschen7754|chen]][[Special:Contributions/Rschen7754|7754]]''' 23:34, 17 November 2013 (UTC) |
::::The funny thing is I think a few other wikis do have non-admin CU/OS who were ArbCom-appointed... not sure how that happened. --'''[[User:Rschen7754|Rs]][[User talk:Rschen7754|chen]][[Special:Contributions/Rschen7754|7754]]''' 23:34, 17 November 2013 (UTC) |
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== Non-admins and CU/OS qualifications == |
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Hi Risker, please see the below statement, in response to the question you left on my talk page. |
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"The Wikimedia Foundation has been asked to clarify and/or expand on a previous decision of the legal team, specifically that the Foundation would not allow users to have Checkuser or Oversight rights added to the user account of a user who had not passed a request for adminship or an equally rigorous community selection process. |
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Our legal and community advocacy team has been asked whether running for (and winning) a seat on the Arbitration Committee would meet the "rigorous community selection process" test, and therefore qualify an elected ArbCom member for Checkuser/Oversight rights. We believe that being elected to ArbCom is an involved process that strongly demonstrates community trust, and that there is a reasonable expectation that Arbitration Committee members on the English Wikipedia's Arbcom will hold those tools, except in exceptional circumstances. Therefore, we will not object to the assignment of checkuser/oversight tools to any user who runs for, wins, and is seated on the Arbitration Committee. |
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Respectfully, <br /> |
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Philippe Beaudette <br /> |
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Director, Community Advocacy" |
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I hope this resolves the question to your satisfaction. I am posting a courtesy copy to the election's page, and to the Arbcom via mailing list. [[User:Philippe (WMF)|Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation]] ([[User talk:Philippe (WMF)|talk]]) 23:52, 18 November 2013 (UTC) |
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Messages below pleaseLand reform in ZambiaCould you restore Land reform in Zambia? I want to contest deletion.--TM 11:36, 12 November 2013 (UTC) PRODsRisker- I apologize for the handling of the two PRODs. I thought that I had put reasons when I did it, but in fact I had put them in the edit summary instead. I must say that it was a bit frustrating to see the PRODs removed over a technicality when the reasons were recorded (though not in the template certainly). That felt a bit like unnecessary beuracracy. Going through an AfD seemed a bit silly to me since the articles had been tagged for over the required 7 days and the creators were notified when it was done (they could have removed the notices). But in the future I will make sure that I follow all of the steps. Rikster2 (talk) 16:40, 12 November 2013 (UTC) Your adviceJust read your advice at User:Risker/Thoughts for Arbitration Committee Candidates and it is quite daunting. I don't know how someone could be an arbitrator, have a job and a family. And it takes an awfully thick skin, it seems. Can non-admins really become arbs?Hi. In your FAQ for ArbCom candidates, you say that "Checkuser and Oversight permissions are not dependent on administrator permissions; thus, this is not a direct bar for non-administrators to become arbitrators." But in light of the Foundation's March 2013 statement insisting that access to deleted revisions requires passing an RfA or RfA-identical process, I'm not sure I see any way that a non-admin could qualify to be an arb. This doesn't appear to be a problem right now (we did have one non-arb throw his hat in the ring this time, but he withdrew very soon thereafter), but it certainly could be a future problem, so perhaps your FAQ needs to be tweaked accordingly. Your thoughts on this? — Richwales (no relation to Jimbo) 02:21, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Non-admins and CU/OS qualificationsHi Risker, please see the below statement, in response to the question you left on my talk page. "The Wikimedia Foundation has been asked to clarify and/or expand on a previous decision of the legal team, specifically that the Foundation would not allow users to have Checkuser or Oversight rights added to the user account of a user who had not passed a request for adminship or an equally rigorous community selection process. Our legal and community advocacy team has been asked whether running for (and winning) a seat on the Arbitration Committee would meet the "rigorous community selection process" test, and therefore qualify an elected ArbCom member for Checkuser/Oversight rights. We believe that being elected to ArbCom is an involved process that strongly demonstrates community trust, and that there is a reasonable expectation that Arbitration Committee members on the English Wikipedia's Arbcom will hold those tools, except in exceptional circumstances. Therefore, we will not object to the assignment of checkuser/oversight tools to any user who runs for, wins, and is seated on the Arbitration Committee.
Respectfully, I hope this resolves the question to your satisfaction. I am posting a courtesy copy to the election's page, and to the Arbcom via mailing list. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 23:52, 18 November 2013 (UTC) |