Talk:Shilpa Shetty

Personal life

I removed that section until it can be replaced by one with verifiable references. After the anon described her supposed current boyfriend as "future business tycoon", I realized that this could just be some deranged fan inserting himself as her date. Fans have done this in other Indian cinema articles. Zora 11:03, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

To Do

Well I did my thing as best as I could. Feel free to improve on it further, I've left some tips in the To-Do list about things that I couldn't do tonight. I'll probably be back to writeup all that stuff but hey, we see how it goes.

One thing I can't figure out is that dratted contents menu, it just won't move. Figured it out, it's hanging off that Cleanup Taskforce tag. Ekantik ^talk 06:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Big Brother Edits

Thanks to all editors who have been updating the page according to Shilpa's entrance into Big Brother, but could I also ask everyone to pay attention to WP:MOS? The recent edits are good but the information is jumbled up. For example, the Awards section needs to be placed further down and above the Filmography section.

As an aside, the Mafia Links controversy is very long and I'll consider making a separate article for that, leaving just a brief description of it on this page. Anyway thanks very much. Ekantik ^talk 01:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Removed jati, advertising

I removed the mention of jati. Unless we have a quote from her saying that she is XXX and proud of her jati, we're pigeonholing her by caste, from outside. WP should not be complicit in the Indian caste system.

I also removed all material re being a "brand ambassador". That's advertising and WP doesn't do advertising. I rather suspect that we have a few advertising people at work here on WP, making sure that their corporate clients are mentioned. Zora 23:37, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually I was reponsible for doing much of the running around for information to add in this article. :) I don't mind the removal of references to jati, but the stuff about her being a brand ambassador of Romanov Vodka is well-sourced and is supported by RS. It represents an event in her career much like other stars may endorse Pepsi or whatever. I'll ask for an RFC. Ekantik ^talk 02:23, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Well I had a look around and I couldn't find anything in WP policies & Guidelines against mention of a subject's endorsement of whatever. The closest thing I could find is the 3rd point here: WP:NOT#SOAP. It's clearly about advertising a product in itself and doesn't say anything about whether an article subject's endorsement of something cannot be mentioned. Here are some other examples I could find:

• Britney Spears
• Beyonce
• Pink

etc etc etc... Ekantik ^talk 02:27, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

What community someone belongs to is important in their upbringing. Iyer and Shetty are two different clans and are notable. The "i am XXX" is only required for categorization of people by caste, a practice I led a crusade to end.Bakaman 03:26, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps so, but why did you remove the Romanov Vodka/Limca information again? Ekantik ^talk 03:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Sigh Zora, you couldnt even get a discussion going on at Village pump, let alone a consensus about mentioning caste. Caste system and caste themselves are diferent. Regardles of what you think, most South Asians classify you by your caste. Call that racist/casteist/feudal or whatever you like, but caste unfortunately is the primary identifying factor for most Indians. Trust me i know better...

P.S Try discussing this with any Indian editor you trust (if there is any atall) अमेय आर्यन DaBrood^© 09:12, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Big Brother Information

Please, I've put a lot of work into this article (smartening up especially for the Big Brother entry) and I'd really appreciate if editors did not remove information willy-nilly that effort was put in to find. This is what the article looked like before I started working on it, and I'm sure everyone will agree that it has been much improved. Not wanting to blow my own trumpet but I was responsible for the majority of the improvement, running around researching sources, etc. So please take the time to consider if your removal of information is meant to benefit the article. I've already got the article semi-protected because of malicious vandalism.

As for Big Brother, I'm perfectly aware that whatever she does on "Day 2" (and the rest of her time for that matter) is superficial for the article, but bear in mind that this particular section has been tagged as current event with rapidly changing information. The idea is to gradually build up the section so that a complete record (with full references) will be kept to describe her time in Big Brother and the notable incidents thereof. So again, please, take the time to consider if your removal of information is helping or harming this article in the long run. Thanks. Ekantik ^talk 03:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! There's a huge amount of vandalism going on at the moment on the pages of all the BB contestants; I've watchlisted this page, and I'll keep an eye on your edits if I need to revert anything else. Squeezeweasel 20:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Infobox Picture

I don't think that the screenshot of her in Big Brother is very good quality, but it's worth keeping until a better variation can be found. I'm going to revert back to the smarter Romanov picture and move the BB picture down into the appropriate section. It's really a horrible picture which may be deleted soon since it has a delete tag on it anyway. Ekantik ^talk 14:18, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

We don't need two image; one is more than enough. A bad quality image of Shetty sitting in a chair doesn't improve the article at all. J Di ^talk 14:26, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Fine with me. But I'll keep my eyes open for a good shot, as I'm already doing. Feel free to remove it if you like, although there's no restrictions on image use as such (providing they don't take over the whole place obviously). Soon I'm gonna work on expanding the career section. Whaddya know, this might be a feature article someday! Ekantik ^talk 14:55, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I've already removed it twice, I'm not removing it again. Also, fair use images should not be used in excess and their use should not violate the fair use criteria. J Di ^talk 15:07, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah I see, the edit history only shows you removing it once so I didn't know. Ekantik ^talk 15:26, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Chronological order

I think that standard practice is chronological order, not anti-chronological orders, as is used now among others for awards and filmography. Andries 22:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Remove vodka ads on sight

Someone keeps reinserting advertising hype re her appearances for a vodka company. I suspect it's an advertising person. Could the other editors PLEASE help me to keep advertising out of WP? Zora 18:37, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Springcleaning

I copyedited the article, removing more advertising, speculations re Big Brother, day-by-day reports on Big Brother (not appropriate here), and reduced the section on her parents' legal problems to the short para that is all it really deserved. I also added a sentence to put the whole fracas into perspective. Involvement with underworld figures might seem bizarre and evil to readers outside India, but for Mumbai residents and especially the film world, dealing with gangs -- and dealing with gang extortion -- is a daily affair. Zora 19:34, 12 January 2007 (UTC)