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* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Northgate Public Services | 2 = NEC Software Solutions UK | discuss = yes | reason = Current page title is misleading as the company was bought out by [[NEC]] and name changed to reflect the membership of the new corporate umbrella. Retaining the previous name is confusing as company no longer has anything to do with Northgate. | sig = [[User:Folk309|Folk309]] ([[User talk:Folk309|talk]]) 11:38, 26 July 2021 (UTC) | requester = Folk309}} |
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** It's usual when companies change names to retain former names, and to establish [[WP:RS]] for the new name. May be too soon for a move, but anyway the former name is useful and not confusing. That is why we have {{tlx|R from former name}}. [[Special:Contributions/85.67.32.244|85.67.32.244]] ([[User talk:85.67.32.244|talk]]) 15:23, 26 July 2021 (UTC) |
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*** This wasn't a simple change name. The company was bought out by [[NEC]]. Retaining the old name would be tantamount to keeping Microsoft Azure title if Google bought it out and put it under its corporate umbrella. The current company has nothing to do with the Northgate umbrella and all to do with [[NEC]], and that is reflected in the name. Furthermore, there are sources in the article itself about the name change. [[User:Folk309|Folk309]] ([[User talk:Folk309|talk]]) 15:50, 26 July 2021 (UTC) |
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****Indeed, the article documents the name change so it is pertinent to have a link from its former name. Other articles refer to that name when describing past events, e.g. [[Pick operating system]], and it would be anachronistic to update them. So there are two issues: |
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:::::# whether to rename (move) the page, or is it too soon? Formally the company was bought by NEC in Jan 2021 but the trading name not changed until around April. Sources for the name change look like press releases from primary sources. It may or may not be too soon, so let's have a full discussion. |
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:::::# whether, if moved, redirects and links to the old name should be deleted or updated. Obviously I would oppose that. |
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:::::Were Google to buy Microsoft Azure we would almost definitely keep a redirect for it, if not spin out a new article. Again, that's a possibility here if the NEC and former Northgate offerings are so disparate. [[Special:Contributions/85.67.32.244|85.67.32.244]] ([[User talk:85.67.32.244|talk]]) 16:18, 26 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:* An RM for this was opened on 8 July and closed on 15 July ([[Talk:Northgate Public Services#Requested move 8 July 2021]]) as '''not moved'''. I think this makes it ineligible for TR anyway. To relist at RM 11 days later may be seen as premature. [[Special:Contributions/85.67.32.244|85.67.32.244]] ([[User talk:85.67.32.244|talk]]) 16:38, 26 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:*:That was a fairly dodgy close, as there was only one oppose vote, and it completely ignored the [[WP:NAMECHANGES]] section of [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. I would urge {{u|Folk309}} to contact {{u|Lennart97}} and ask them to re-open the discussion (although I agree with the IP editor below that the target should be "NEC Software Solutions" without the "UK", as that returns ~30k google results). --[[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#04A;display:inline-block;padding:1px;vertical-align:-.3em;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK<br />PAGE</span>]]) 19:37, 26 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:*::You're right. I've reverted my close. [[User:Lennart97|Lennart97]] ([[User talk:Lennart97|talk]]) 20:13, 26 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:*The [https://www.necsws.com/ corporate website] says "we are NEC Software Solutions" without the "UK". [[Special:Contributions/85.67.32.244|85.67.32.244]] ([[User talk:85.67.32.244|talk]]) 17:19, 26 July 2021 (UTC) |
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* {{RMassist/core |List of shopping malls in Greater Longueuil|List of shopping centres in Greater Longueuil|reason=Many of the shopping centres listed on this page do not fit the description of a [[shopping mall]]. Of course they all are [[shopping centre]]s which has a broader meaning. [[Special:Contributions/198.103.184.76|198.103.184.76]] ([[User talk:198.103.184.76|talk]]) 15:18, 26 July 2021 (UTC)}} |
* {{RMassist/core |List of shopping malls in Greater Longueuil|List of shopping centres in Greater Longueuil|reason=Many of the shopping centres listed on this page do not fit the description of a [[shopping mall]]. Of course they all are [[shopping centre]]s which has a broader meaning. [[Special:Contributions/198.103.184.76|198.103.184.76]] ([[User talk:198.103.184.76|talk]]) 15:18, 26 July 2021 (UTC)}} |
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Revision as of 07:46, 27 July 2021
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Technical requests
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Uncontroversial technical requests
- Wikipedia:MasterChef India (Hindi season 4) is invalid. Must create Wikipedia:MasterChef India (Hindi season 4) before requesting that it be moved to MasterChef India (Hindi season 4).– I have accidentally committed a blunder while trying to fix a typo in the article name — you can see there was an unnecessary space after the first bracket. I did not select the correct namespace prefix for the said article, and now it shows up as Wikipedia: MasterChef India (Hindi season 4) instead of just MasterChef India (Hindi season 4). I tried moving the page again with the correct prefix but it wouldn't, saying that "the page already exists." Kindly help. AllyJay50 (talk) 06:56, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
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- Put requests that require an administrator (e.g., because the page to be moved is move-protected or the target is salted) here.
Contested technical requests
- List of shopping malls in Greater Longueuil (currently a redirect to List of shopping centres in Greater Longueuil) → List of shopping centres in Greater Longueuil (move · discuss) – Many of the shopping centres listed on this page do not fit the description of a shopping mall. Of course they all are shopping centres which has a broader meaning. 198.103.184.76 (talk) 15:18, 26 July 2021 (UTC) {{{sig}}}
- List of shopping malls in Montreal (currently a redirect to List of shopping centres in Greater Montreal) → List of shopping centres in Montreal (currently a redirect instead to List of shopping centres in Greater Montreal) (move · discuss) – Same reason as above. 198.103.184.76 (talk) 15:22, 26 July 2021 (UTC) {{{sig}}}
- There is an established convention here, see Category:Lists of shopping malls. The better solution would be to edit the articles to include only shopping malls. 162 etc. (talk) 16:07, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
- True but many of articles in the category you are referring use "Lists of shopping centres ..." instead "Lists of shopping malls" which proves that the established convention is not relevant for the name of the pages. It makes more sense to simply renaming the article than deleting information on it.198.103.184.76 (talk) 21:24, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
- There is an established convention here, see Category:Lists of shopping malls. The better solution would be to edit the articles to include only shopping malls. 162 etc. (talk) 16:07, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Requests to revert undiscussed moves
- Vadda Ghalughara → Sikh holocaust of 1762 (currently a redirect back to Vadda Ghalughara) (move · discuss) – Undiscussed page move with a dodgy edit summary. Raymond3023 (talk) 15:20, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - Move was over 6 months ago and since then had a RFD closed as keep. It may be best now to open a new discussion on the affected talk page. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 16:45, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
- See reply below. Raymond3023 (talk) 03:16, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
- Chhota Ghallughara → Sikh holocaust of 1746 (currently a redirect back to Chhota Ghallughara) (move · discuss) – Undiscussed page move with a dodgy edit summary. Raymond3023 (talk) 15:20, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - Move was over 6 months ago and since then had a RFD closed as keep. It may be best now to open a new discussion on the affected talk page. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 16:45, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
- Both, this and above one were still an undiscussed page move that was inappropriately made against the talk page discussion and stood firm for many years.[1][2] Raymond3023 (talk) 03:16, 27 July 2021 (UTC)