User talk:ZaniGiovanni

Thank you

Thank you for your kind words, I appreciate it more then you know. I have had the chance to read your comment, I will have a more thorough review of it as soon as time permits. Regards, Archives908 (talk) 18:45, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

@Archives908: Take your time, and many thanks to you for your contributions. Please notify me in here what you think is the appropriate way to deal with the Sockmaster’s edits (at least the ones confirmed with biased/political sources) once you evaluated the situation more. Take care and thanks again.--ZaniGiovanni (talk) 19:42, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard

Hello, ZaniGiovanni. Please be aware of this notice, where you are mentioned. Parishan (talk) 21:50, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Lake Sevan

Hello Zani, I was going to ask if you want to talk about the Lake Sevan issue? It appears we are in disagreement here. - Creffel (talk) 11:08, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Zani, I am once again requesting that we resolve our disagreements via civil discussion. I have asked you to do so approximately 4-5 times now. I have even offered a compromise on my most recent edit - Creffel (talk) 19:51, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

I will take a look. --ZaniGiovanni (talk) 19:53, 29 April 2021 (UTC)/

I took a look at your edit, seems like you didn't even open the source abt the info that you claim is "sourced info". Read my reply in the page 1, and stop edit-warring. I will not tolerate your disruptive behavior, your account will be reported along with the suspicions of sockpuppetry. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 20:04, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Creffel (talk) 09:24, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

You've got mail

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Please read it as soon as you can. Thanks. --Blablubbs|talk 10:08, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

@Blablubbs: I emailed the information to the checkuser team instead, thanks. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 10:40, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

A thank-you, and an inquiry

Hi, ZaniGiovanni, thank you once again for the wonderfully kind message you left on my talk page; I appreciate it a ton, and thank you, too, for all your work.

As you are obviously more experienced and well-read on the rules and customs of Wikipedia, could I possibly ask you for your opinion at Talk:Zod_gold_mine? We obviously need more consensus than merely two opinions (so far) as to whether to rename the page, so I would appreciate your thoughts immensely. Have a great day -- BaxçeyêReş (talk) 01:54, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

My pleasure @BaxçeyêReş:. I saw the RM vote today actually as I edited once in that article and I have it watchlisted, but generally I would advise not to leave messages about voting in other editor's pages as it may be seen as canvassing. But understandably, you're new on wiki and wanted an additional opinion, and you probably were not even aware of the rule to begin with. As I said, I was going to take a look at the RM regardless, but right now I'm sort of busy IRL. If needed for advise/help, you can message on my page. Wish you a smooth road on the wiki journey. Sincerely, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 03:38, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh no, I had no clue about the canvassing thing! I'll obviously refrain from doing so in the future; thank you a bunch for all your kind words and for making me cognizant of how to move forth on this intricate yet wonderful website. BaxçeyêReş (talk) 22:10, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Let's solve our problems?

Hey ZaniGiovanni, I hope you are well.

I'm just passing by here and wanted to ask if you want to solve our disagreements and talk? I think we have our disagreements and perhaps you really thought that BaxçeyêReş was an honest editor, but it seems not, and so the user was appropriately blocked for sockpuppeting. I am here to talk anyway.

I have my own concerns about your edits for example, but I wanted to ask you first: do you have any concerns you personally would like to discuss? you clearly disagreed with some of my recent edits and I want to get to the bottom of this in a cooperative manner. I can also explain what my concerns with your edits were if you have the time, and we can solve whatever problems come up together. - WimpyDood (talk) 03:30, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Arman Tsarukyan

HI ZaniGiovanni, Pls note that your edit has been reveted as heritage info should not be in the lead section (intro) but body text - see WP:ETHNICITY. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia^(talk) 09:39, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

I wrote and cleaned up the article per the source MOS:ROLEBIO. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 09:44, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

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Reliability of the Source

Hello.

Just here to discuss why exactly you believe a Stanford-press-approved book from a 3rd party author dealing specifically with Azerbaijanis is not reliable enough for you? Please elaborate further. Thank you - WimpyDood (talk) 13:57, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

@WimpyDood I already explained in my edit description, but I'll also add in the talk page of the article. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 14:00, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey, just be careful

I've seen your name pop up a few times now on various drama-boards. You might want to read Wikipedia:ANI advice as a bit of a heads up. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 16:12, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

MJL I'm gonna be honest I don't understand what you mean by "drama-boards", but thanks for your concerns regardless. Best, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 16:19, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

[Thank you for the ping] Sorry, that probably isn't a term that translates well. There are places like WP:AE, WP:AN/I, etc. that are well known for hosting "drama" (spectacles of conflict). Most users find themselves more productive and happy when they aren't finding themselves there very often. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 16:26, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

No worries MJL and thanks for the explanation, you're very correct. With best, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 16:32, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

I guess I should follow this up just a bit. In the future, I recommend using WP:AE over AN/I if you are okay to do so. For both Verman1 and Toghrul R you would've been able to (the former because of a topic ban, and the latter because of an awareness for DS that still apply).
Further, I get that some users are really disruptive in the WP:ARBAA2 space, but with Toghrul R this makes the third Azeri editor you've reported in the last 2 weeks ([1][2][3]). All three are also administrators on azwiki, too.
You're treading some pretty dangerous ground right now. People might begin to feel you are using the dispute resolution processes to remove perceived opponents rather than dealing with genuine disruption (even if genuine disruption is the underlying cause). –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 16:30, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Hey MJL, hope you're doing well. Firstly, wanted to say that I appreciate your thoughts, and they are in fact very informative. You're always welcome on my talk page if there is anything to discuss.

A couple of my thoughts and my perspective. I had two options with both of the editors: A) edit-war to no end and be no better than them; B) report them in the "drama-boards" (as you say:)) and stop what seemed like endless disruption. I choose the latter, and the community agreed with me. I think it's the better option if the user refuses to talk and blindly re-reverts, breaking guidelines in the process. And their ethic aspersions on top (in another user's talk page) were really disturbing. I didn't even know the user was an admin in a different project (later after they told in ANI I checked their profile and oh well), but I don't think it changes anything.

As I said, I really appreciate your concerns and to see an experienced editor like you expressing their thoughts and giving advice is always welcome. Hope you'll also appreciate mine. With best, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 17:25, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

There is one more option besides those two. Let me explain...

I will just say that, as an outside observer in regards to the Azerbaijani-Armenian conflict (at least as far as it plays out on Wikipedia), it can be very difficult for each side to explain where they are coming from. I spent a lot of time two years ago on azwiki, and I was pretty taken aback by how bad some things were there. The one thing that became abundantly clear for me is that there is staggeringly little truth in what the Azerbaijani people get told about the Armenians. Folks are told, "The Armenians killed your family. They are tricksters who lie and deceive." and there just isn't anyone around to push back against that narrative. It's really sad if you ask me.

When someone like Toghrul R lashes out with blanket statements that how you're biased for being Armenian or whatever the next situation is, try to remember that they are coming from a place of ignorance. That is not meant to excuse their actions because it is still wrong to imply someone is biased by virtue of their nationality, but it's important to recognize when someone says something like that out of ignorance versus when they say it out of hate. Just calmly leveling with the other editor can go a long way in these kinds of situations. They might not listen, but it's always important to at least present the chance for them to improve because sometimes they will.

By the way, I'm sorry that this is so long. There's just obviously a lot that can be said about this specific topic, though.
Also, I was wrong to say Verman1 was an azwiki admin. That user is just autopatrolled there. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 04:45, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

RE: Email

Hey. Sorry, but I rarely if ever disclose my email address to users who haven't been active for, I dunno, a year'ish. Regards, El_C 20:21, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

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Chechili

Hello, I am here regarding the topic about Chechili. I think, we you should stop reverting my version of the article because

1)The reader will be disinformed about the ACTUAL origins of Chechil/Chechili.

2)My sources are completely reliable.

if you want to discuss about Chechili here too, Okay.

SO:

A) There is a cheese called Tenili, which is obviously Georgian and on the other hand we have another Georgian cheese Chechili. both words as you can see are same in structure, Tenili means stuffed and Chechili means Scutched. I even put my sources on the article but it got unfairly deleted.

ALSO

B)If you think that my source about Chechili meaning "scutched" is unreliable, then, let's check both of the words "Chechili" and "scutched" separately in Google. And compare them in looks. they look 100% similar.

even according to Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs of the UK, the country of origin of the Cheese is Georgian. so it is already a good of a source, here you can have it. https://www.gov.uk/protected-food-drink-names/mesxuri-chechili-slash-meskhuri-chechili

I am pretty sure that, a source linked to UK's government is more of an "independent" one than source called: " Armenian Food: Fact, Fiction and Folklore. Yerkir Publishing, Bloomington, Indiana, USA." :))

Best regards, and please revert Chechili back to normal since I can not. SonofJacob (talk) 06:08, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Stop vandalizing

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Gugark. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you.

Please, stop vandalizing/reverting the article of Gugark for no valid reason and asking for reaching unnecessary consensus of the truth that has been already proven.