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:The capitalization is off, "[[Okudagram]]s" is not a reliable source, and in general I think it's too trivial to warrant including here. But, that said, I'd prefer the simplicity of a numbered list than the table. I don't think the table adds any more clarity, and given that, prefer the simpler markup of a list. --[[User:EEMeltonIV|EEMeltonIV]] 00:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:The capitalization is off, "[[Okudagram]]s" is not a reliable source, and in general I think it's too trivial to warrant including here. But, that said, I'd prefer the simplicity of a numbered list than the table. I don't think the table adds any more clarity, and given that, prefer the simpler markup of a list. --[[User:EEMeltonIV|EEMeltonIV]] 00:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:Tables are good in general for various reasons, they are also bad. Tables should not be used for the sake over simpler wikimarkup, in fact I find it looks fugly. ([[WP:TABLE]]) <span style="font-style: Tahoma; font-size: 84%;">'''thanks'''/[[User:MatthewFenton|Fenton, Matthew]] [[User talk:MatthewFenton|Lexic Dark]] [[Special:Contributions/MatthewFenton|52278 Alpha 771]]</span> 00:50, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:Tables are good in general for various reasons, they are also bad. Tables should not be used for the sake over simpler wikimarkup, in fact I find it looks fugly. ([[WP:TABLE]]) <span style="font-style: Tahoma; font-size: 84%;">'''thanks'''/[[User:MatthewFenton|Fenton, Matthew]] [[User talk:MatthewFenton|Lexic Dark]] [[Special:Contributions/MatthewFenton|52278 Alpha 771]]</span> 00:50, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

== Upgraded Technology ==

Near the end of the last season, Voyager acquires technology that vastly increased the output of their replicators. This was when they formed an alliance with some aliens in an attempt to escape a void. In the episode called 'The Void' of course. The amount of energy needed to make one steak, for example, now makes multiple steaks.

I'd add in this upgrade section but my brain has the dumb today and I cannot think of a graceful way to add it in.

[[User:Lots42|Lots42]] 02:23, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

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It would be good to have a few more technical details, at least the class of starship and how it is similar to and different from the Enterprise. Wesley

  • Reply to above - I didn't originally write this article, but the first time I saw it I did some major revisions, which included adding a list of technical specifications. However, during a future edit, someone else moved the list over to a separate article titled "Intrepid class starship". (6/18/04, 20:37UTC)

SlipStream technology adopted from Borg

During "Timeless" Voyager tests a Silp-Stream drive which is a lot faster than warp 9. Because it was only tested once and ended up destroying voyager on a icy planet. The Delta Flyer managed to make it back to Earth in record time using a SlipStream drive. Using it once got Voyager 10 years closer to Earth Renegadevikign

The Borg use transwarp technology, slipstream was developed by "Species 116", slipstream exceeds the warp barrier, just like transwarp (There is more detail at MA) thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 12:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't the Borg assemblate Species 116 ("species 116" is a term the Borg uses)!
Yes they did assimilate 116. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 16:54, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Name change

Changing the name of this article to USS Voyager (NCC-74656) makes it REALLY HARD to distinguish in a Wikipedia search page (unless you are a trekie its hard to tell which article is Star Trek's "Voyager"). The previous name USS Voyager (Star Trek) would be preferable since it gives you an obvious clue as to what the article is about. This seems to a case of fan exactitude out weighing encyclopedic needs. I propose changing it back. Halfblue 15:49, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is a discussion on this at the talk:WikiProject Star Trek Halfblue 12:21, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup needed

I made edits to fit WP:1SP and WP:LAYOUT. I also tried to combine plot details and technical descriptions that just seem to repeat and repeat and repeat. Its still a mess... more help needed. Deleted info on Delta Flyer... it has its own page. Halfblue 13:46, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New Technologies

"During their years in the Delta Quadrant, the Voyager crew upgraded their ship as far as possible using captured, stolen and purchased alien technology as well as technology acquired from the future."

I'm having a problem with this sentence, but I hesitate to edit it because I don't know a way to make it precise but short.

For example: In "Scorpio, Part II", 7 of 9 beams Borg equipment onto Voyager's Cargo Bay 2 before her cube gets destroyed. Later on in the episode, the cargo bay is depressurized and all Borg except 7 get tossed out. As 7 becomes more human, she still uses a Borg alcove to sleep. The alcove belongs to her, since she is still Borg, so I would hardly consider that technology "stolen." But Voyager did not pay for it, so it's not "purchased" either. And for some reason I don't think "captured" applies either. ShutterBugTrekker 00:31, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Is it unique that the Intrepid class can make a touchdown on a planet?

Yes; at least Voyager can. — Knowledge Seeker 04:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, misread that...I have no idea if other ships can touch down. Certainly the Galaxy class can't—but the Defiant can, if I recall correctly. — Knowledge Seeker 07:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sure it can touch down, remember the touchdown of Enterprise D? :D -- Cat chi? (Coolcat) 14:44, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Of course, Coolcat is correct. I should have added that Voyager has the bonus ability of being able to take off from the planet while still in one piece =) — Knowledge Seeker 17:06, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Propose move from Starship Voyager to USS Voyager

I am suggesting that this article be renamed from Starship Voyager to USS Voyager. This would be consistent with "official" Star Trek usage as well as other Star Trek ship names (for example, USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-D), USS Defiant, USS Galaxy, and so on). If anyone objects (or supports), please discuss it at Wikipedia:Requested moves#Starship Voyager → USS Voyager. Thanks! — Knowledge Seeker দ (talk) 11:03, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Shortly after I proposed the move, an article was written on the currently-existing USS Voyager, so I moved this page from Starship Voyager to USS Voyager (Star Trek). — Knowledge Seeker দ (talk) 03:29, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

USS Voyager should be a disambiguation page. You are right, there are many "voyager"s fiction or not, just like USS Enterprise. USS Voyager (NCC-74656) is the right format. -- Cat chi? 13:34, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
I agree that USS Voyager should be disambiguation, but USS Voyager (Star Trek) seems preferable to the one with the serial number—in my opinion, that would be done for multiple Voyagers within the Star Trek universe. If another one were to arise, we could then disambiguate. — Knowledge Seeker 17:07, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Recent Changes by 69.104.18.93

Today (April 7th) 69.104.18.93 made a number of changes to data points that should be indisputable facts (ship length, weapon compliment, engine specifications, etc). We need some definate source documentation here, so we can determine which of these numbers are accurate. Or, if conflicting offical sources exist, we need to find a way to reconcile them or present both sides. Doopokko 07:05, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Page move?

It appears User:Coolcat just moved this page from USS Voyager (Star Trek) to USS Voyager (NCC-74656). I personally feel that the former (Star Trek) is the better title, which is why I moved the article there from Starship Voyager last year. Any other thoughts? — Knowledge Seeker 04:12, 19 May 2005 (UTC) [updated — Knowledge Seeker 05:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)][reply]

Agreed, Use common names. - SimonP 04:58, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
Any other opinions? If there isn't any opposition, and given the comments a few months ago when we were discussing moving the page, I will probably move the page back in a day or so. — Knowledge Seeker 07:22, 23 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Common names? There is a format for star trek ships. That should be followed. I already voiced my reason to move this page. This is the only Starfleet ship that is named as "USS Voyager (Star Trek)". Common names based on what? I am not renaming it to Spock, I am adding the ships serrial number to the article title just like other voyagers. -- Cat chi? 14:07, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

I am sure the common name for the coast guard ship is the USS Voyager. I am also sure the common name for any ship does not include the serrial number, however its a standard to put a serial number due to the number of ships having same common name. -- Cat chi? 14:07, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Computer Speed Units

48,000,000,000 kiloquads/nanosecond = 48 teraquads/nanosecond? What do you think? A strolling player 00:42, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Transporters making Star Ships Obsolete?

Transporter range of 1,550,000,000,000 kilometers??? That's 10360 au... The distance from the sun to pluto is 38 au... The range of the Enterprise transporters were around 40,000km so i don't think that number is right. Untill i find the range from a canon source i won't edit it myself, but am looking. A non canon source that points to the 40k range is http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Transporter#Limitations


Years

Voyager ends in 2377, not 2378... it's a common mistake due to an error in the episode "Homestead".

So...

I want one of theese ships... And an Holosuite... And a Replicator... How much does it cost??

Reverted propulsion additions

I removed the additions to the Propulsion section of the Infobox because they were not part of the ship's capabilities. The Slipstream drive used in "Hope and Fear" was never installed on Voyager. The drive in "Timeless" was not a capability of the ship; it was an add-on component tested once and dismantled after the ensuing disaster. -- Tuvok^Talk|Desk|Contribs  02:17, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moving Nacelles

In many episodes Voyagers warp nessels are seem moving up before the ship goes into warp. Can anyone cooberate or document this? Flamesplash 03:38, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can corroborate this. I believe it is referred to as the "Variable-geometry Nacelles", designed to protect the fabric of space-time. This is documented and referenced thoroughly on Memory Alpha. The folding nacelles are a result of this new solution to protecting the fabric of space-time. -- Tuvok^Talk|Desk|Contribs  08:21, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Warp Core

What is up with Voyager's warp core? Has it ever been explained? There are no "cascading" patterns of light that converge on the crystals, there's just that weird liquid-like light pattern. Again, has it ever been explained? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.254.8.195 (talk) 23:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Table for decks

The current format looks a tad sloppy, dull, and not all to inviting. A table not only refines it, but also makes it clear what the numbers and words are. American Patriot 1776 00:16, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The capitalization is off, "Okudagrams" is not a reliable source, and in general I think it's too trivial to warrant including here. But, that said, I'd prefer the simplicity of a numbered list than the table. I don't think the table adds any more clarity, and given that, prefer the simpler markup of a list. --EEMeltonIV 00:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Tables are good in general for various reasons, they are also bad. Tables should not be used for the sake over simpler wikimarkup, in fact I find it looks fugly. (WP:TABLE) thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 00:50, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Upgraded Technology

Near the end of the last season, Voyager acquires technology that vastly increased the output of their replicators. This was when they formed an alliance with some aliens in an attempt to escape a void. In the episode called 'The Void' of course. The amount of energy needed to make one steak, for example, now makes multiple steaks.

I'd add in this upgrade section but my brain has the dumb today and I cannot think of a graceful way to add it in.

Lots42 02:23, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]