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Hi there! Can you please contact the claimed copyright owner of [[:Image:Momusu live2007.jpg]]? I tried mailing him, but I got a permanent error (DNS error). Someone found apparently the original image, and we need to know if he cropped the original image, or if he took the original image himself. Thanks. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 17:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC) |
Hi there! Can you please contact the claimed copyright owner of [[:Image:Momusu live2007.jpg]]? I tried mailing him, but I got a permanent error (DNS error). Someone found apparently the original image, and we need to know if he cropped the original image, or if he took the original image himself. Thanks. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 17:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:Bad thing. Well, we will have to nominate the image for deletion at Commons, since the image presented by the anonymous user is pretty convincing. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 19:54, 28 October 2007 (UTC) |
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Talk page intro
Aaah! A clean slate - the sequel! Old archives are here (inception to 12.20.05), here (12.20.05 to 2.2.06), and here (2.2.06 to 7.15.07). Wipe your feet, make yourself at home, but don't take the Morning Musume CD's off of the stereo or I'll go GG Allin on your ass. ;) --CJ Marsicano 17:53, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
GFDL
If you plan on contributing to this project, you have to do so under the GFDL. We cannot accept the license you have chosen for yourself. For now, this account is blocked indefinitely. I will post a notice of this block on one of the administrators' noticeboards.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 18:57, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- The statement will be withdrawn only when Wikipedia's current policy against non-free images is suspended or wholly rewritten. --CJ Marsicano 19:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Your userpage notice
Please be advised that all contributions posted on Wikipedia are automatically licensed under the GDFL. This is a consequence of the notice displayed every time you post and this message will represent a further reminder of this fact. Your statement on your userpage that you do not accept such licensing is without effect and should be completely disregarded.
Moreover, because such statement is misleading and could be considered as a legal threat against those who may copy our content, which may include your contributions, I request that you remove it from your userpage immediately. Otherwise, the view could be taken that your contributions create a legal risk and that you should be blocked from editing, as has happened to other contributors making similar claims in the past. I trust that no matter what issues you may have with Wikipedia, you would not want this to happen. If there are any questions, please let me know. Newyorkbrad 18:59, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- The statement will be withdrawn only when Wikipedia's current policy against non-free images is suspended or wholly rewritten. --CJ Marsicano 19:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- FYI, Ryulong posted his comment just above at the same time I was typing this. Newyorkbrad 19:10, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- FYI, So what? --CJ Marsicano 19:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- So unless you change your position, you can't edit here. Newyorkbrad 19:15, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- On top of the previously stated reasons I gave earlier, I obviously cannot make that revision because I am blocked from doing so. Only a permanent unblocking can do that. --CJ Marsicano 19:17, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- If you suck it up and agree not to be obstinate about Wikipedia:Non-free content (formerly Wikipedia:Fair use), then you will be unblocked. If you persist that your edits are under the Creative Commons non-derivative, atribution, non-commercial license, then you can't edit, as that conflicts directly with the multiple licensing the Wikimedia foundation uses. That's why directly below the window I am editting it says "You agree to license your contributions under the GFDL*" and "GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, with no Front-Cover Texts, and with no Back-Cover Texts." If you disagree with the GFDL, you cannot click "Save page"—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 19:31, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Against my better judgment, I will allow these contributions under GDFL (but not solely under that as I still hold reservations about that particular license) for the indefinite time being, but that will not and never be the only license. I will determine a reasonable further multi-license (i.e. one I strongly agree with that falls within Wikipedia's boundaries) within the next 24 hours. That having been said, I still have my opinions about Wikimedia's flawed policies about so-called non-free images. If a solution is not found for these polices before Wikimedia becomes even more of an internet laughing stock, I cannot say with any certainty that there will be further major disagreements. CJ Marsicano 19:43, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- I'd say that this is a good statement for unblocking. However, what fair use policy is now is very unlikely to bend to the whims of a singular group, as it had been rewritten to conform with a decree by the Wikimedia Foundation's board of trustees. I'll try and figure out the autoblock, too.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:09, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Against my better judgment, I will allow these contributions under GDFL (but not solely under that as I still hold reservations about that particular license) for the indefinite time being, but that will not and never be the only license. I will determine a reasonable further multi-license (i.e. one I strongly agree with that falls within Wikipedia's boundaries) within the next 24 hours. That having been said, I still have my opinions about Wikimedia's flawed policies about so-called non-free images. If a solution is not found for these polices before Wikimedia becomes even more of an internet laughing stock, I cannot say with any certainty that there will be further major disagreements. CJ Marsicano 19:43, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- If you suck it up and agree not to be obstinate about Wikipedia:Non-free content (formerly Wikipedia:Fair use), then you will be unblocked. If you persist that your edits are under the Creative Commons non-derivative, atribution, non-commercial license, then you can't edit, as that conflicts directly with the multiple licensing the Wikimedia foundation uses. That's why directly below the window I am editting it says "You agree to license your contributions under the GFDL*" and "GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, with no Front-Cover Texts, and with no Back-Cover Texts." If you disagree with the GFDL, you cannot click "Save page"—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 19:31, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- On top of the previously stated reasons I gave earlier, I obviously cannot make that revision because I am blocked from doing so. Only a permanent unblocking can do that. --CJ Marsicano 19:17, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- So unless you change your position, you can't edit here. Newyorkbrad 19:15, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- FYI, So what? --CJ Marsicano 19:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
A question
By the way, nothing directly to do with the block or the licensing of your own contributions, but how can Wikipedia's licensing policy on images violate the First Amendment? The First Amendment, as part of the U.S. Constitution, constrains only governmental action (originally by the federal government, and then, as extended, by the states). The Wikimedia Foundation, of course, is a purely private entity. I could understand your disagreeing with Wikimedia policies on this or any issue, or even arguing that the policy somehow violated the copyright statute, but I don't see how even in theory they could violate the First Amendment. Regards, Newyorkbrad 19:52, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Restricting free speech is pretty much a violation of the First Amendment. The Supreme Court's decision on Acuff-Rose vs. Campbell determined that fair use was protected free speech. --CJ Marsicano 19:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- First, the messages were removed by Gmaxwell. Second, like Newyorkbrad said, the Wikimedia Foundation is a private entity and the US Constitution only constrains actions by the government.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:04, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Um, OK, but it still seems ridiculous. -- Ceej 20:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- First, the messages were removed by Gmaxwell. Second, like Newyorkbrad said, the Wikimedia Foundation is a private entity and the US Constitution only constrains actions by the government.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:04, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- And thirdly, Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc. is a ruling that commercial parody is not presumptively unfair use. It's got absolutely nothing to do with Wikipedia, and nothing to do with the First Amendment. --Carnildo 21:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Wrong on all counts. I know more about that case than you do. That case is solid enough grounds for backing up fair use of copyrighted material as constitutionally protected free speech. It has more to do with the issue at hand than you are willing to admit, and that includes this website and how its run. -- Ceej 01:59, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- And thirdly, Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc. is a ruling that commercial parody is not presumptively unfair use. It's got absolutely nothing to do with Wikipedia, and nothing to do with the First Amendment. --Carnildo 21:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
GFDL licensing
Greetings! My attention was brought to your userpage due to the issues with licensing. I've altered your statement on your user page to reflect what it seems from the discussions you've had that you meant to say; stating that you are licensing "partially" under the GFDL is misleading if you intended to dual- or multi-license your contributions. (Please note that this means that anyone who wishes to reuse them may do so under either the terms of the GFDL or whichever CC license you choose, and only has to abide by the terms of one or the other.) Thanks, Kat Walsh (spill your mind?) 22:26, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Email address
I suggest you encode your email address or write it in a nonstandard format (i.e. toughshit at cjmarsicano dot com) to avoid spambots, unless you're hardcore and don't care about spam. hbdragon88 02:05, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- I have a very good spam filter on my Mac, but thanks for the advice. -- CJ Marsicano 02:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Replaceable fair use Image:Watt_missingmen.jpg
![Replaceable fair use](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/32px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png)
Thanks for uploading Image:Watt_missingmen.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:
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{{di-replaceable fair use disputed}}
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Alternatively, you can also choose to replace the fair use image by finding a freely licensed image of its subject, requesting that the copyright holder release this (or a similar) image under a free license, or by taking a picture of it yourself.
If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified how these images fully satisfy our fair use criteria. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on this link. Note that fair use images which could be replaced by free-licensed alternatives will be deleted 7 days after this notification, per our Fair Use policy. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. – Quadell (talk) (random) 23:23, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- If you continue to remove "replaceable fair use" tags in violation of policy, you will be blocked from editing. If you believe that an image is not replaceable, please add {{di-replaceable fair use disputed}} to the image description page, and leave a note on the talk page why you think it would not be possible to create a new free image with the same encyclopedic content as this non-free image. Thanks, – Quadell (talk) (random) 02:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Hey!
I agree completely with your image rants. That's exactly why I left wikipedia quite some time ago. Too bad we're losing so many good users because of this. abarry✓ 14:34, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. Wikipedia's overly zealous and mostly superfluous stringency on copyright issues with fair use on images is diminishing the site's overall value. A rethink is needed. User:Buried Alien 11:00, 19 July 2007 (PDT)
Your page
That divbox that is currently on my user page DOES NOT BELONG ON MY TALK PAGE. Please respect my space or I will bring the matter up with admins, some of whom I've made nice with in the past couple of days
About that, well when I saw that you left because of the BS image policies, my initial reaction was to lash out against the "image Nazis" that caused you to abandon what you once loved. You may recall my run-in with Chowbok that happened last fall. I embroiled myself into a dispute over the photo of Mike Watt, which was sent by the man himself, yet was still tagged. I had my images tagged by Chowbok as well,so that's how that happened.
When, I got your message, I felt horrible that I got on your bad side to say the least. As for me editing your page, seriously never happening again. Nuff said. --Adamv88 04:41, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Apology accepted. CJ Marsicano 04:42, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Jandek
You're right. Only one ref on the whole web, but it looks legit. How weird - a user that creates real and fake albums. I'll remove it from the AfD. ELIMINATORJR TALK 18:52, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Unspecified source for Image:Bgc97a.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Bgc97a.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, then their copyright should also be acknowledged.
As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Fair use, use a tag such as {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.
If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 09:57, 23 July 2007 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. MER-C 09:57, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Bgang98c.gif
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/70px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png)
Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Bgang98c.gif. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Suggestions on how to do so can be found here.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. MER-C 09:57, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Unspecified source for Image:Biafra_thayill.jpeg
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As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Fair use, use a tag such as {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.
If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 09:59, 23 July 2007 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. MER-C 09:59, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:TheGoneWait.jpg
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/70px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png)
Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:TheGoneWait.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.
If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. (ESkog)(Talk) 06:01, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Sorry! agh
Oh, sorry, it was a mistake; I haven't been on wikipedia in awhile and am a bit of a newb with it now. *sigh* I just wanted to say I agree with your rant, I didn't mean to copy and paste it to your talk page *dead* abarry✓ 10:13, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Ronald Reagan
I share your frustration with the Ronald Reagan article. I agree with you that the Ronald Reagan article is pov rose colored glasses Reagan in many ways. However, it would help to have you point to specific things so that your complaints are much harder to dismiss. I have been trying to outline specific pov problems with the article, it would be great to have your help on the featured article discussion page: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Ronald ReaganWikipediatoperfection 01:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Replaceable fair use Image:Hellride01a.jpg
![Replaceable fair use](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/32px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png)
Thanks for uploading Image:Hellride01a.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:
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Fair use disputed for Image:BlackFlag-Damaged.jpg
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Morning Musume image
Hi there! Can you please contact the claimed copyright owner of Image:Momusu live2007.jpg? I tried mailing him, but I got a permanent error (DNS error). Someone found apparently the original image, and we need to know if he cropped the original image, or if he took the original image himself. Thanks. -- ReyBrujo 17:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- Bad thing. Well, we will have to nominate the image for deletion at Commons, since the image presented by the anonymous user is pretty convincing. -- ReyBrujo 19:54, 28 October 2007 (UTC)