User talk:Sarumio

• Hi Sarumio, can you please use the "edit summary" field when making edits to pages? It makes it much easier for other editors to see at a glance what you've changed. - fchd 20:26, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

• • This is another request, could you please please please use the edit summary function. I have most of the non-league club articles on my watch list and see a load of them as amended but no indication of what has been changed. This is of course no reflections on the actual edits, as what you are doing is fine in that regard. - fchd 12:17, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikilink with care, please.

Hi. Could you please check your recent edits for correct Wikilinking?

You edited Merrow F.C. and changed Merrow, Surrey (which is correct) to Merrow, which, as you will see, is utterly incorrect. (I have since fixed this). The link you have added for Street F.C. is also wrong, since Street is not the place near Glastonbury in Somerset. I haven't checked many more of your contributions, so I don't know how widespread the issue is.

Just wanted to alert you, and remind both of us to be more aware of our linking.

EdJogg 00:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Edit Summaries!

• As previously stated, PLEASE use "edit summary" when making changes. It makes peoples lives alot easier. Tomayres 20:10, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Please fill out the edit summaries!

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thank you. DuncanHill 22:24, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Totnes & Dartington Sports Club

I have reverted your move of Totnes & Dartington SC to Totnes & Dartington FC. The correct name of the club includes the words "Sports Club", not "Football Club" as evidenced by club programmes over the years, and the current Devon FA handbook. - fchd (talk) 22:27, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Hi there. When editing an article on Wikipedia there is a small field labeled "Edit summary" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:

The text written here will appear on the Recent changes page, in the page revision history, on the diff page, and in the watchlists of users who are watching that article. See m:Help:Edit summary for full information on this feature.

Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field. If you are adding a section, please do not just keep the previous section's header in the Edit summary field - please fill in your new section's name instead. Thank you. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

FC or not

Hi, before making mass changes, can you please discuss them on the Wikiproject Football talk page? Thanks. Paulbrock (talk) 19:17, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. You may not be aware that a change like removing the FC from infoboxes is something which would normally be discussed among interested parties before implementing. This would happen at the talk page of the article concerned, if it were being applied to just one article, or at the project talk page for a general change. If you put forward a sound argument for making the change, you might well achieve a consensus in its favour.

Moving pages is a different matter. A few seconds spent checking on the clubs' websites would have told you that neither Wrexham nor Cardiff City are A.F.C. If you make such changes without apparently bothering to check the facts, you're bound to get people's backs up. Don't let this put you off editing though, I'd just advise being a bit more careful another time, check your facts and use the edit summary to say what you're doing. And if you're interested in keeping football articles up to scratch, you may want to keep an eye on what's going at the WP:FOOTY project, there's always plenty of stuff needs doing. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:45, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Your edits have been reverted by various editors. Please bear in mind that a large number of folks here work hard at WP:FOOTBALL to keep articles to the highest quality. Feel free to drop in and discuss your ideas before changing articles en-masse. Thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Even your reverts have started to be reverted. Can you not see that a lot of your edits aren't agreed with? The Rambling Man (talk) 16:42, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Finally, please use the edit summary so other editors can see what you've changed and why. This would help prevent any erroneous reversions. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:43, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Stop! Please!! You're editing against the consensus now and your continual reversions will just get reverted back! The Rambling Man (talk) 10:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

shortname in the Infobox Football Team template

By the way, you ought to know that the recommendation for data in the shortname field is described thus: "shortname — A commonly-used abbreviated name for the club. " So your opinion to remove FC and AFC from these names is exactly that, your opinion. You really need to take a break from this persistent mass editing - numerous editors have reverted (and will continue to revert) your edits. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

As far as I can tell it is soley you who is reverting my edits (with the exception of 3 reverts I've come accross so far by Richard Rundle, two of which i have accepted - AFC Totton & Brodsworth Welfare's full names). There has been nothing wrong with the majority of my edits (and ive appologised for and left alone the ones that were wrong). I could either remove the very few clubs that have FC in this top short name field or I could add FC to the 100s upon hundreds that don't! I'm just trying to make it conistant. Which would you prefer!

Are you counting [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6]? It takes a while for editors (particlarly for the non-league clubs) to notice what you've done. Oh, and for the nth time, please use edit summaries, and please sign your posts using four tildes, (~~~~). Thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm sure you mean well, and it's quite possible many of your edits are good edits, but if you are going to make changes on this sort of scale (even if you believe them to be correct) you need to discuss them. The best place for this is Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football. If you suggest it, it will be discussed by people, and if a consensus is reached then the changes can be made. John Hayes^talk 11:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I think you may find that you have annoyed a large number of individuals. The fact that all but a few have been reverted by (User talk:The Rambling Man) is more to do with that Editor's diligence, patience and politeness which has pre-empted perhaps more strident views been forthcoming from those that regularly edit these sites. I advise you take a rest from your actions and reflect on what others are saying above.... I have never seen a User Page like yours for comments. Does this not suggest to you that you are behaving in a way that irritates others! If not then you should look at the Help pages for advice on how to conduct yourself! Hopefully following a period of reflection you will start to participate as a fellow member of the Wikipedia community.Tmol42 (talk) 11:17, 11 February 2008 (UTC)