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Panathinaikos FC

Well can you please make it clear to the user Karagounis that wiki is about facts and not personal preferences.He keeps reverting the article in order not to include Nikopolidis and Konstantinou in the notable past players only because of his sentiment towards them when they moved to Olympiakos team a couple of years ago.

They keep adding also a 1911 championship when the Greek FA was established in mid-20ies and noone recognized the title.I don't really want to be involved in a constant revert war to state the obvious.Maybe you can explain him.Eagle of Pontus

• OK understood.To tell you the truth i didn't know that there was actually a 3 times revert rule,as i am thinking it, it makes sense.Thanks for the advice. Eagle of Pontus

Ante Pavelic

Please, do not contribute to the edit war here. You are an administrator - aren't you??? I verified the context and saw it well-referenced and accurate.

Hi There

I have wanted to smile at you for a long time

Why Wiki Why (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing!
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Kosovo Intro

Please add your suggested changes and post results @ http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kosovo&action=edit&section=29

You are not fair at all

You banned the Greeks,because they think it is not fair,to use the term Republic of Macedonia,cause is not recognized from the united nations...You use fascists methods to spread F.Y.R.O.M S PROPAGANDA ON INTERNET....i will find the way to report you to other administrators...behaviours like yours are a shame for wikipedia,you are insulting all of us....This country has the name F.Y.R.O.M.official name not Macedonia or Republic of Macedonia...so be wise and change the name yourself..your actions are offensive and are giving power to hate and racism...i hope you will understand finally..

A Tale of Two Cities

Hello,

You edited the A Tale of Two Cities Wikipedia entry in March by revealing the ending of the book in the first paragraph of the introduction of the entry, where no spoilers are meant to appear. I was casually reading only the introduction entry, taking care not to read any further, 3/4 of the way through the book, when the ending was ruined for me by you. I would have preferred that you had left the intentional mistake there, inaccurate though it was. I hope you're pleased with yourself.

Josh Burkart Davis, CA, US

Unnecessary Comment

Man, what is your problem? All I did was leave a comment on a discussion page providing information about something that is inaccessible to most users, and your response is to go and leave a jerky comment on my talk page.

Consensus about sources

On talk page of article Serbs of Croatia we will create consensus about NPOV sources for Yugoslav Wars (Talk:Serbs of Croatia section NPOV sources). My question is can we latter ask ARBMAC to confirm that this sources are NPOV and latter if it is needed to enforce statements confirmed with this sources.

I am sure that you understand that without some sort of wiki community support are consensus will die very fast--Rjecina (talk) 07:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

That certainly looks like a good step to try and work out such a list, thanks for the initiative. I'm particularly glad to see you and Civilaffairs working together constructively - she seems to be a very competent editor with a good sense for neutrality and good sourcing. However, I don't think we can do any formal endorsement of such a list through the ARBMAC mechanism, like saying: this is it, and anybody who doesn't stick to those sources will be banned, or anything like that. You know, the ARBMAC sanctions are not supposed to be about deciding content. But certainly, if anybody were to undermine such an initiative by blatantly disregarding a consensus achieved on its basis, or to disrupt the process in some other way, I'd certainly want to take that into account when dealing with sanctions and the like. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Review and not by just one ADMIN

My opinion from the talk page Greece is that you sometimes find difficult to deal with the group of Greek editors, your words “Greek editing community has been putting up an insane amount of disruptiveness and obstruction, and unfortunately we can't ignore their sheer revert-warring firepower” Why you do not become two ore more Admin to decide, in all the delicate issues …. All the articles where some Greek user were extremely free to edit and are working in group against anybody that oppose them, must be review independently .I will make a case in ARBMAC included mine….

P.S Nothing ABOUT TROLLING AND QUALITY what is wrong with the source, you can paint well your “minority” map especially in Epirus. No they wish they were but they are not only Tosk (but Tosk and Geg) the Arvanites and it was not my post to say that .I would not like to be instead of •ΚέκρωΨ• , but behind him.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.24.246.80 (talk • contribs)

Who is this poor child who dares take my name in vain? ·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ· (talk) 14:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Me but not poor actually, you can se I am to a certain extent rich , I have a motivation and your name is very appriciated— Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.24.246.80 (talk • contribs)

How about signing your comments, brodhër? ·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ· (talk) 14:11, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

You would say ”Molesto “ but trust me your calm waters are worse vellajo— Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.24.246.80 (talk • contribs)

Dodona's bizarreries have had a tendency towards the surreal lately, certainly adding to their entertainment value. Maybe he is still emotionally overwhelmed by having his latest block summary mixed with a Happy Easter greeting from me. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:13, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Please to the point!! Ps.i appriciated and you know the Easter greeting mixed with block , me bizzare what is it you can change fast..— Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.24.246.80 (talk • contribs)

You know, he might actually be a decent bloke. Wikipedia can be cruel sometimes. ·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ· (talk) 14:20, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Χρόνια Πολλά!

Υγεία, χαρά, αγάπη, ευτυχία, έρωτα, δόξα και λεφτά! Κρίμα που δεν ήρθες, αλλά ευτυχώς για τη... χοληστερίνη σου! :-) NikoSilver 13:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Πρόσεχε Νίκο, ή θα σε σέρνουν στα δικαστήρια για χρησιμοποίηση μη βικιπαιδοπρεπούς γλώσσας σε σελίδα χρήστη. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:22, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Να μάθουνε να μιλάνε, αλλιώς να μάθουνε να ακούνε. Χρήση Ελληνικών μεταξύ Ελληνόφωνων είτε δεν αφορά Αγγλόφωνους είτε θα μεταφραστεί αν ζητηθεί. NikoSilver 23:41, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Και να φαντασθείς πως το χειρότερό μου δεν το είχαν καν προσέξει [1]. Λες να'τρωγα μπλόκο? Αλλά τώρα θα με σκωτώσεις γι'αυτό εσύ, το ξέρω... ;-) Fut.Perf. ☼ 00:26, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

LOL τρυπήσανε κιόλας? Καλά έκανα και παραιτήθηκα, ε? Πάλι καλά που δεν αντιμετώπισες σχετικό πρόβλημα με τη νέα μου δραστηριότητα (ακίνητα)! Αλλά τώρα που το σκέφτομαι θα σου πήγαινε τρέλλα ένα κεραμμυδάκι στο κεφάλι! NikoSilver 01:47, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Kosovo

Nice, but me and Jonathan admit that we are bored ;-). BalkanFever 15:10, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

minorities map of Greece

(I mean minority languages map of Greece). Please have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Greece and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:550px-Greece_linguistic_minoritiesb_copy.jpg I did use your map and redrawn the color volume. Do you considere this acceptable? Seleukosa (talk) 20:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

hahahahaha!!! Thank you for the award!!! How is that thing working? Can I put it in my page?? Can I give awards also? Seleukosa (talk) 20:34, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I found a template for it, it's sort of the basis for how they make barnstar templates. {{Award2}}. You can basically put in any image and text you want... :-) Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/CAMERA lobbying

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/CAMERA lobbying/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/CAMERA lobbying/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, — Rlevse • Talk • 22:51, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

greetings

I have seen some of the work you've done on the Macedonian articles lately, and I must say I am impressed. You might (or might not) remember me from last summer when i was involved in quite a few wars over macedonian articles, and I believe we had some exchanges with you (i apologize if i offended you, it was the adrenaline speaking :). You are doing a great job trying to put some objectivity in a very contentious issue. I must admit that my Macedonian compatriots bear the blame quite often, but the resources and time (and passion) that the Bulgarian and Greek editors put into spreading of their POV cannot be matched.

keep up the good work, Capricornis (talk) 22:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

evidence

I didn't submit any evidence to FT2 on the CAMERA lobbying case. Did you? Bangpound (talk) 23:19, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

We kept FT2 in the loop about the progress of our review, as a courtesy given his earlier intervention in the AN/I discussion. -- ChrisO (talk) 23:32, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Canadian General Andrew Leslie

Per WP:LIVING I have removed from the Andrew Leslie article recent edits which added defense attourney allegations against him made during the ongoing trial of Gotovina, Cermak and Markac in the Hague. You may read my reasons for doing so here: Talk:Andrew Leslie As I am new to WP, I wanted to bring this to your attention so that this can be handled properly. As I noted on the talk page, a portion of these recent additions may be admissible. Upon your review, I will make any necessary changes. Many thanks for your kind attention in this matter. Civilaffairs (talk) 01:15, 30 April 2008 (UTC)Civilaffairs

After reading WP:LIVING again, it may be necessary to also remove mention of these unproven allegations from the talk pages of Andrew Leslie and Operation Storm. I leave this up to you to decide. Civilaffairs (talk) 02:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)Civilaffairs

Thank you for your swift and sure help. I have added back the medal mix-up in summarised form, as you suggested. I am still concerned about what amounts to incorrect and slanderous information on the talk page. For example, "His collegue testifed against him and claimed that he wanted illegal evidence against the Croatian Amry". This "colleague" has not appeared before the Tribunal; this was merely an insinuation by the defense attourney. After studying WP:LIVING, it seems to me that statements like this be removed from the talk page, but again, I am new and don't want to do something wrong. Civilaffairs (talk) 17:28, 30 April 2008 (UTC)Civilaffairs

Not Caturday, but....

Ethnic Macedonians in Serbia+Macedonians in Serbia+Macedonians in the Republic of Serbia needs some merging. Of the first two, I honestly don't mind which one. BalkanFever 13:48, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Wow, thank you! (blush) This was so nice of you, and such an encouragement to me, too. A lot of the credit actually goes to the efforts of Howard C. Berkowitz of WT:MILHIST who kindly took an interest in this struggle and taught me much, including pointing out the Wikipedia:WikiProject Sri Lanka Reconciliation. I've thought for a long time that he deserved an award for his tireless and patient efforts, but I didn't know how awards work or how to give him one. Can I just do it? He deserves an award more than I do! Civilaffairs (talk) 15:03, 30 April 2008 (UTC)Civilaffairs

Yeah, sure, you just pick one from Wikipedia:Barnstars or Wikipedia:Other awards and paste the template on the person's talk page. (If you feel in the mood, you can even roll your own, using the template {{Award2}}, like I did with this guy just yesterday... :-) Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:15, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Ilinden

Since you're the guy who worked on the moving/merging of that article a while back, I thought I should ask you to look at Talk:Ilinden-Preobrazhenie Uprising#Proposed split. I believe most works refer to it as simply the "Ilinden Uprising". BalkanFever 08:51, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Korca

Please see this [2]. I added referenced material and that was removed (...again...) by User:Megistias. balkanian (talk) 14:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Advice

I advice you regarding violation of user:DIREKTOR for this restriction. Always DIREKTOR persists in several edit wars pushing his POV statements. Articles involved:

• Republic of Ragusa
• Albania Veneta
• Dalmatian Italians‎
• Josip Broz Tito
• Foibe massacres‎
• Istrian exodus‎
• many others.

You can control history of these articles for evidence! Regards and best wishes. Nemo, 1 May 2008

Sock

No, I'm not a sock from Bojancho. I'm a different user/person using the same Internet connection. Noompsy (talk) 17:44, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Roarer

appears to have a different idea on who God is, and what constitutes for a Wikipedia article 15:23, 2 May 2008 Roarer (Talk | contribs) (11 bytes) (←Replaced content with 'Ben Whibley') (undo)--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 04:34, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

User:Velebit ?

I want to be on safe side so.... We are having editor from user:71.252.102.204 and user:71.252.52.88. Because his edits are very similar (writing only about bad Croats) to known puppets of user:Velebit (best example [3] ) and IP address is very similar to User:71.252.83.230 which is known Velebit puppet--Rjecina (talk) 06:29, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Unprotection

Sarandë (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I am asking unprotection of the Saranda page, since we reached a consensus. Thank you for your work. balkanian (talk) 12:36, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

The block of User:כתר

I know you said you didn't want to be involved further, but the review at User talk:כתר has moved on a bit, and I wanted to let you know that the attacks on you have been discussed and that the user has acknowledged he was less than polite, and has apologised here. Actually, I now see you have responded there in response to Fayssal's e-mail and my later comment about that. Given the inconclusive nature of the further CU investigations, the user's apology, and that the user does discuss things constructively, do you think you could ask Moreschi to unblock? Remaining concerns about sockpuppetry should be raised separately in a new case. Overall, I feel a second chance is warranted here, but I think an unblock request from you would be better than me approaching Moreschi directly. Carcharoth (talk) 09:02, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

If you want him unblocked, I suggest you unblock him and not ask others to take that responsibility from you. You are well within your rights to do so, having discussed and consulted with the blocking admin exensively. So now do what you must, but don't expect me to give any extra endorsement to that. In fact, nothing in the world will convince me that this is a legitimate user, but that's just my opinion. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:16, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

When I cross the line between commenting on a case and advocating, I consider myself too involved to unblock. I also don't unblock without asking the blocking admin again, as they should have the chance to re-review the case. This makes things a lot slower, but ultimately I think it is better to do things this way. I accept and respect your stance, and I will go and talk to Moreschi directly. Carcharoth (talk) 09:25, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

splitting- Slavic dialects of Greece

Hi, would it be alright if i was to split the page Slavic dialects of Greece? or should their still be further discussion? It would make more sense if it were to be split?? Any comments?P m kocovski (talk) 00:46, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I've already given my comments on the talk page; I'm personally not convinced a split is a good idea, and I don't see anybody else besides you advocating it. My personal impression is there's rather a consensus against the split. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:14, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Well alright for now but i will bring it up again but later.But the article needs serious work. I have worked on it so far but will continue to do so. Are my contributions alrite? P m kocovski (talk) 09:38, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I was just wondering would it be possible to post this image onto wikipedia here??? Or am i not able to. I just wanted to confirm. IF not would i be able to make a recreation to put onto this page - Geographical distribution of the Macedonian Language???

That map is copyrighted and replaceable, so no, you can't use it. A re-drawn map of your own citing that one as a source would be okay though. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:29, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Griko

Hello, I noticed that, in the wiki article, Griko is considered a descendant of Doric. From what I've read in the past, it's simply a Koine-descended variant (with perhaps some Doric influence and various archaisms; don't ask for details, I remember none), and funnily enough there seems to be a(n old) dispute about its classification in the talk page. Since you're a linguist, if I'm not mistaken, and just miiight know something about it, could you weigh on in this? What's the consensus? Thanks. 3rdAlcove (talk) 01:16, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

dablinks

User:Maktruth has again reverted us at Macedonian Canadians, in addition to Macedonian Australians and Macedonian Americans. Could you have a word with him? ·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ· (talk) 08:32, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

meatpuppetry

how does this : "...and because of you rather obviously being another CAMERA meatpuppet" Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Judadem"

reconcile with what what i stated 7 hours before??:

i state here that the members of any agenda driven group exposed should suffer the consequences even when other agenda driven groups escape exposure. that goes even if the pro palestinian/anti israeli group is never found. i also state that that is an existential flaw in the wiki model because the presumption of neutrality cannot be judged from within, an essential condition of wiki world. i do not believe in god thus i do not believe in perfect knowledge. Davidg (talk) 00:33, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents/Wikilobby_campaign

did you act in ignorance or were you caught up in 'group think'? Davidg (talk) 03:43, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Macedonian Latin alphabet

Hi Fut.Perf. ☼, not sure if you can help, but there is a little procedural/verification matter going on at the Macedonian Latin alphabet article, and BalkanFever suggested you might be a good person to turn to for ideas on how to handle it... The relevant section is → here... Cheers, AWN2 (talk) 09:37, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Abusive language - inflammator strikes again

Hi, Future.
The inflammator strikes again.
I wrote you about this unregistered user once [4].
He repeated his behaviour, please see my message to admin Steel359 [5] and [6] (longer ones, with compromizing sections and diffs) and much much shorter message, [7].
In short, inflammator again directly calls other users as "mentally unstable persons" [8], "defective brain" [9], "unnatural, fake creation" [10](calling someones ethnicity like that!).
This time, he acts through sockpuppets 24.86.127.209 (talk · contribs) (a new one, the insults are mostly from this one) and 24.86.110.10 (talk · contribs). Edit pattern is identical. Kubura (talk) 07:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)