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:Haven't had a chance to check this out yet, could be interesting. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 09:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC) |
:Haven't had a chance to check this out yet, could be interesting. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 09:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC) |
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*Sorry, not an adequate source by a long shot for an accusation of that nature in a [[WP:BLP]] article. Please let's not try to have the [[Wikipedia|tail]] wag the [[WP:RS|dog]]. --[[User:Justallofthem|Justallofthem]] ([[User talk:Justallofthem|talk]]) 05:42, 30 August 2008 (UTC) |
*Sorry, not an adequate source by a long shot for an accusation of that nature in a [[WP:BLP]] article. Please let's not try to have the [[Wikipedia|tail]] wag the [[WP:RS|dog]]. --[[User:Justallofthem|Justallofthem]] ([[User talk:Justallofthem|talk]]) 05:42, 30 August 2008 (UTC) |
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**This was a senior official within the organization, talking on record about his experiences in recorded audio. Doesn't get more of an adequate source than that, IMO. Would be interesting to see what others think though. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 11:28, 30 August 2008 (UTC) |
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==Hostages?== |
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Cook, John (March 17, 2008). "Scientology - Cult Friction: After an embarrassing string of high-profile defection and leaked videos, Scientology is under attack from a faceless cabal of online activists. Has America's most controversial religion finally met its match?". Radar Online. Radar Magazine. Retrieved 2008-03-20. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
- See in particular page 3 of 4. Cirt (talk) 11:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Primary sources
It would be best to avoid usage of primary sources and self-referential sources, in describing the history of an organization specifically from those sources. Better to rely on secondary, WP:RS/WP:V sources. Cirt (talk) 21:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
First Celebrity Defector Reveals Church Secrets
- Ortega, Tony (April 8, 2008). "Scientology's First Celebrity Defector Reveals Church Secrets: 'I was Miscavige's favorite boy,' says veteran TV actor Jason Beghe". Village Voice. www.villagevoice.com. Retrieved 2008-04-16.
{{cite web}}: Check date values in:|date=(help) - Friedman, Roger (April 16, 2008). "Actor: Scientology Is 'Brainwashing'". FOX News. www.foxnews.com. Retrieved 2008-04-16.
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- Good sources for some interesting info on David Miscavige, as revealed by celebrity actor and (former) Scientologist, Jason Beghe. Cirt (talk) 08:42, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Source, interview discussion about David Miscavige
- Olsen, Dawn. "Church of Scientology, David Miscavige, Marc Headley, Tom Cruise". BlogTalkRadio. www.blogtalkradio.com. Retrieved 2008-04-26.
- Haven't had a chance to check this out yet, could be interesting. Cirt (talk) 09:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, not an adequate source by a long shot for an accusation of that nature in a WP:BLP article. Please let's not try to have the tail wag the dog. --Justallofthem (talk) 05:42, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
- This was a senior official within the organization, talking on record about his experiences in recorded audio. Doesn't get more of an adequate source than that, IMO. Would be interesting to see what others think though. Cirt (talk) 11:28, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Hostages?
I read that this guy has the board of Scientology as hostages at some compound, what's the story behind that and why is it all over news websites but not on his page on Wiki? I'd say it's notable? And I'd like to know more. 122.107.56.47 (talk) 03:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- Oh? Which news websites? If they are reliable sources they could be used as cites. Without cites, editors can't just drop in unreferenced text, especially in biographies of living persons. AndroidCat (talk) 06:57, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- Until a court of law finds Miscavige guilty of this, I would be highly hesitant to put anything that could be interpreted as libelous in a biography. Charges of kidnapping would definitely count, and should definitely not be in this article. --GoodDamon 16:06, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- Until we can see what these "news websites" are, and exactly what they say, it's all pretty moot. AndroidCat (talk) 18:17, 26 May 2008 (UTC)