User talk:UC Bill

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PC-0This user is politically incorrect.

NOTE: I do not believe in WP:CIVIL, and think it is a stupid, problem-causing policy. Phony politeness is not politeness. Feel free to insult me on this page all you like, although I would recommend against insulting anybody else. Note that you might still be reprimanded and/or blocked by some misguided admin for insulting me, although if this happens let me know and I'll do my best to defend your right to do so.

• Hear hear. I agree 100%. I’ve added a userbox, “PC-0” statement that you might like. Greg L (talk) 18:33, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

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• 2009-03-12

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The wiki, as of this writing, seems to be down: Can't contact the database server: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) (localhost). Just a heads up. =) —Locke Cole • t • c 15:26, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm upgrading some software packages on that server, so it'll probably be flaky for most of today. Some stupid security audit website for an e-commerce site I'm working on was complaining that I had PHP 5.2.8 instead of 5.2.9, so I'm just upgrading all the installed packages. Thanks for the heads-up, I'll go put a site notice up or something so people know what's going on. --UC_Bill (talk) 16:37, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

March 2009

Regarding your comments on Talk:Nancy Cartwright: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. TheLeftorium 21:52, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Don't you dare try to block me, jerk. I don't give a rat's ass what you THINK policy says, I can say whatever I want, to whoever I want, any time. I have just as much of a right to contribute to the encyclopedia as you, and you should go find something useful to do with your time, other than harass people who happen to have a foul mouth and short temper. Asshole. --UC_Bill (talk) 21:54, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

User:Theleftorium has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Okay, that's funny. --UC_Bill (talk) 22:02, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Block

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for personal attacks. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first.  GARDEN  22:20, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

UC Bill (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

UNBLOCK ME NOW. THIS IS BULLSHIT. I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF CLEANING UP A GODDAMN VERY LARGE CATEGORY, AND SOME ASSHOLE CRIES TO THE ADMINS THAT I'M USING FOUL LANGUAGE. YOU'RE NOT THE FUCKING POLITENESS POLICE.

Decline reason:

Amazingly, capital letters and insulting other users does not make me want to unblock you. If you had actually tried being polite and made a calm and rational request, I might have been tempted Jac16888^Talk 22:30, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

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Amazingly, your sarcastic bullshit and superior attitude have inspired me to stop contributing to Wikipedia entirely. I've already deleted all the source code for the patch I'd been developing for the project (yes, I'm a developer) and I hope you feel all good about yourself with your smug attitude. Douche. All the admins here (with a few exceptions) should be strung up and ridiculed by people who actually have a life.

Actually, apart from the first word of that comment, It was not sarcastic, nor was it meant to be superior. You seem to be very much a person who tells it as it is, which is great, but there is a difference between being a straight-shooter and well, lets face it, acting like a dick. If you've honestly just deleted something which you spent your own free time on, then that's pretty damn pathetic and the only person really losing out is you. You say I was acting superior but your entire little speech there fits perfectly with my favorite essay, Wikipedia:Don't Feed the Divas. Anyway, how about some advice, you have two options right now. Go off and be huffy, retire and never come back. You lose a hobby which presumably you once enjoyed, and sure we lose a useful contributor but I'm sure we can cope. Or, you can just let it go, you were a bit too loose with your tongue, someone sensitive didn't like it and you got a time out, but never mind, just forget it and move on. Your choice, makes no difference to me either way--Jac16888^Talk 22:48, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

blocks are supposed to be preventative, dick-head. i don't "get a timeout" for calling a spade a spade, or in this case, calling a moron a moron. i've been contributing to wikipedia for eight fucking years, and have just about had it with you pathetic 20-something college kids who think you know shit from shinola. you're not a fucking police officer, you're SUPPOSED TO be doing useful things like cleanup work. you're a janitor. admins here should all be stripped of their rights, and a new batch brought in that actually understands their jobs.

Yes, thats right 20 years old, college student(not pathetic thank you very much) and I don't actually know what shinola is but there we go. First of all, for the record, I am well aware of what my role is as an admin, if you look at my contributions and logs you'll see most of what I do is cleanup, either the mundane deletions of unneeded pages or clearing up after all the little shits who use wikipedia as facebook. The reason I'm here having this conversation/argument/debate/whatever with you right now is believe it or not because I'm trying to help you--Jac16888^Talk 23:18, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

UC Bill (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

fine, unblock me so I can request that my userpage be deleted. or just delete my userpage and purge the history, because I am exercising my right to disappear.

Decline reason:

As you are not currently in good standing, you are not entitled to a right to vanish. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 23:08, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

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Block extended

Following your previous edit, you are now blocked, your talk page is locked down, and you are unable to send email from this account. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 23:18, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

• A blocked editor is angry and frustrated. While blocks are meant to protect the encyclopaedia, this one adds nothing. If anything, it pours gasoline onto the fire because the editor is even angrier than he was before. I believe this lockdown is unnecessary, nor is it a last resort. Clearly UC Bill needs to vent his anger, so what's the problem with just letting him do that on his own talk page? You've already got him with his hands tied behind his back, now you're putting on the blindfold and the gagging mouthpiece, and kicking him in the goolies. Letting him continue to rant here doesn't harm anyone. This is just the sort of heavy-handed behaviour which gives admins a bad name. Ohconfucius 02:43, 25 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.123.64.42 (talk)

This was extremely unfortunate

Bill, I appreciate that you've done tremendous amounts of good for Wikipedia in many areas. But what you just did here is exactly the type of behavior that the Arbitration Committee and administrator communities have recently stood up and clearly said is not OK, period.

I appreciate your extensive input on the Civility talk page on what objections you had to that policy and the new enforcement efforts, but you clearly were aware of what people were going to enforce, and you went and did all this anyways. I'm baffled as to what you thought the response would be, other than getting yourself blocked.

You clearly care about the Encyclopedia, and have shown a high degree of education and logic. This outburst was uncharacteristic and irrationally extreme.

If there's anything you want to talk about, please email unblock-en-l@lists.wikimedia.org . Thank you. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 02:02, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Block reduced to original 31 hr duration

After discussion with Hersfold I am reducing the block from indefinite to 24 more hours, the duration the original block would have run for (plus or minus an hour, not exactly sure).

We have a longstanding policy of allowing editors who have been blocked to vent about it. We know that people are human. We expect that some people who are blocked will be upset about it, and some will say so loudly. We hope and expect that most blocked editors will be adult about it, but the community does not demand perfection on this count.

So, tomorrow night, your account's ability to edit will be coming back.

With that said - Please think about your participation in Wikipedia. You have a clear and well articulated opinion on civility here. However, we have a community standard (from policy, Arbcom, administrator consensus, experienced user consensus) that requires that editors here treat each other like human beings. We expect that people will edit in a constructive manner, not just in article content but in relationships with each other.

If you just absolutely reject the community standard and will not abide by it, please do not return to the behavior earlier today. The best course would be for you to chose to leave without hurting anyone else or making yourself look bad - simply walk away.

It is my hope that you can come to abide by the policy. We do not expect perfection. But we do have a reasonable expectation that people can create a positive work environment for building the encyclopedia, not a hostile or confrontational or abusive one. You have by and large edited in a manner that was consistent with that, and I see no reason why you can't again in the future.

Whatever set you off today, it might help to talk to someone about it, but if you just want to let it lie and move on that's ok too.

I hope that you take all this constructively and go back to building the best encyclopedia we all know how to.

Thank you. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 04:02, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Side note on dissapearing - as your indef block was undone, I have restored your user page. If you chose to walk away and still want to vanish, I or another administrator can redo that deletion. But I recommend that you wait a couple of days and think about that decision. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 04:10, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

• Thank you Georgewilliamherbert. Very wise intervention. I appreciate your style. I also appreciate UC Bill’s style. I have been the target of UC Bill’s “direct-talk express” before and don’t mind it at all. Of course, I understand that not everyone can deal with being treated as such. I find UC Bill to behave honorably and to have good intentions. He is valued contributor to Wikipedia and we certainly don’t want to be driving experienced, mature, knowledgeable editors like him away unless he is truly shocking the conscience of the community—which he obviously isn’t. Like UC Bill, I tire of having to stumble all over myself trying to tell dick-heads do go do something to themselves that is physically impossible, all the while adorning it with wiki-pleasantries and “please” and “golly-gee”. There are thoroughly disruptive assholes on Wikipedia who get away with what they do simply by hiding behind the apron strings of civility—a very, very thin veneer of civility. I’ll take straight-talking UC Bill’s any day. A short cooling-off period is just what the doctor ordered for this situation. Greg L (talk) 04:20, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

  P.S. I looked at his comment on Talk:Nancy Cartwright. I’m still laughing as I type this.^Disclaimer Greg L (talk) 04:26, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

• Everything should be done to encourage UC_Bill back to the project. His programming skills will be sorely missed.  HWV258  04:49, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I would rather the user had been given the opportunity to strike his appalling comments and apologise to both the original target and the two admins involved here. As it is, the user will return angrier than ever, and there's no closure for anyone. Tony (talk) 09:21, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

A heads up to the kibbitzers. Because of UC Bills block, he is unable to edit this page or use the email this user feature. Hipocrite (talk) 13:26, 25 March 2009 (UTC)