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Hurricane Celia (2010)

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Nominator(s): Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:57, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

As part of a continuing effort to keep the Category 5 Pacific hurricanes featured topic alive, I've quickly brought this year's addition to the group up to higher standards fast. As with Hurricane Rick (2009), there was a three month period given from the date the Tropical Cyclone Report was published for the article to be promoted to GA/FA and added into the topic to avoid the topic being delisted. As such, I now present Hurricane Celia, a very powerful, early-season hurricane in an unusually quiet season (for the Eastern Pacific). Since there was very little to add to the article outside of the Tropical Cyclone Report, there is no need for further research and thus I've nominated the article for Featured Status. I hope everyone enjoys reading this article and all thoughts and comments about it are welcome. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:57, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

• Comment - one dead external link, one dab link. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:14, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Removed the dead link and fixed the dab. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 17:18, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Sources comment: I see that all but one of the English sources are cited to one or other pages of the National Hurricane Centre. Most hurricane articles I've looked at recently have used a range of sources, including newspaper accounts etc. Is there any reason in this case for not looking beyond the NHC? Brianboulton (talk) 22:28, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

The storm stayed mostly away from land, so there was minimal media interest in the storm. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 00:53, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, subject to that being OK, sources look all right, no further queries. Brianboulton (talk) 15:51, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose at it currently stands. There is no need to have 1,000 words, or 14.7 kb, on the met. history. That seems too long (ie failing FA crit. 4), particularly for a storm that isn't very notable. Also, why the local time? Most tropical cyclone articles do not use local time, since it is unnecessary for meteorological phenomena. Hurricanehink (talk) 18:53, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
  • With regards to what Tito said, I wouldn't mind if the article was moved to Meteorological history of Hurricane Celia (2010), considering there was next to no impact and the storm is notable for its met. history. Then, it would be restructured like the other met. history articles. Hurricanehink (talk) 21:39, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
• Comment, leaning towards support. I do not consider either the length of the meteorological history or the local times to be problematic (although I would get rid of the latter, since the storm never affected land, so the connection to any time zone is minimal). In particular, the meteorological history is the interesting part of the article, and it would be excessive overkill to create Meteorological history of Hurricane Celia (2010) (I would likely WP:AFD that thing if it were to come into being, by the way). That said, there are a few simple issues that should be addressed before the article meets WP:WIAFA 1.a:
  • Forming out of a tropical wave on June 19, Celia quickly organized into a tropical storm and later into a hurricane the following day as deep convection consolidated around the center. - clunky, reword
  • On June 21, the storm further intensified into a Category 2 hurricane; however, over the following days, Celia's winds fluctuated. - is this even necessary?
  • Over the following 42 hours, sustained winds decreased to tropical storm force and the system began to stall over the open ocean by June 27. - Celia's sustained winds. Otherwise it sounds rather dull
  • Hurricane Celia was first identified by the National Hurricane Center (NHC) as a disorganized area of disturbed weather associated with a tropical wave on June 5, 2010 off the western coast of Africa in the Atlantic Ocean. - the precursor of Celia. Otherwise, it sounds like the NHC stumbled into a hurricane off the Cape Verde Islands.
  • Roughly 18 hours being classified a depression, - roughly 18 hours after being classified?
  • prompting the NHC to upgrade the depression to Tropical Storm Celia. - for n00bs' sake, reword this as prompting the NHC to upgrade the depression to a tropical storm, and to give it the name Celia.
  • with an eye beginning to appear within the storms' central dense overcast.[7] storm's
  • by which time the system appeared to be vertically tilted, having the low-level circulation displaced to the northeast of the mid-level circulation. - needed? not sure, more opinions needed
  • Celia turned due west as it moved around the south side of the ridge previously steering it to the west-southwest. - unclear antecedent for "it"
  • The following morning, the eye reformed the storm became more vertically aligned, allowing it to re-attain Category 2 status. - grammar
  • Forecaster Todd Kimberlain at the NHC referred to the unexplained shifts in strength as "puzzling". - period inside the quotes
  • with some cloud tops being as cold as −86 °C (−123 °F) but, no eye had reformed by the morning of June 24. - not sure why you have a comma after "but"
  • That evening, the storm further intensified into a Category 5 hurricane, the second storm to reach this strength during June on record. - ambiguous: is this the second EPac Cat 5, or the second Cat 5 anywhere?
  • During the late morning of June 25, Celia started a rapid weakening trend as it began to take a more northwesterly track into a more stable environment with cooler water temperatures and higher wind shear, highly unfavorable for tropical cyclones - I would say, "all of these conditions are highly unfavorable for tropical cyclones." It just sounds too disjointed right now.
  • After becoming embedded within a low-level westerly flow, the system began to slowly execute a small clockwise loop. - the track map doesn't show this; if anything, it shows a counter-clockwise loop. In any case, you should upload the image with --extra 1 for this paragraph to make sense.
  • On June 22, the National System of Civil Protection in the Mexican state of Jalisco raised the alert level to stage two for coastal areas. - you should include the original Spanish here: "the Sistema Nacional de Protección Civil (National System of Civil Protection) raised..."
  • Although out of the storm's projected path, a precautionary blue alert, the lowest level, was issued for Socorro Island. - this makes no sense, reword
  • However, between June 22 and 23, the outer bands of the storm brought unsettled weather to the unpopulated Clipperton Island, a territory of France. Since this island houses no people, the National Hurricane Center did not issue any hurricane warnings for it. - I would recommend rewording parts of this to "the outer bands of the storm brought unsettled weather to France's Clipperton Island. Since this island is unpopulated, the NHC did not issue any warnings for it."
  • In the National Hurricane Center's monthly tropical weather summary for June 2010, it was stated that the Accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) for the month was the highest on record, - mixed capitalization, fix
  • WTF is reference #40?
• Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 20:47, 9 October 2010 (UTC)