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Hi Uruiamme, why did you [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=First-come,_first-served&curid=1659963&diff=413261024&oldid=412878486 revert my edit]? Both deleted wikilinks are already part of the article. There is no point mentioning exactly these two words again in the "see also" section, right? --[[User:Gnom|Gnom]] ([[User talk:Gnom|talk]]) 16:26, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi Uruiamme, why did you [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=First-come,_first-served&curid=1659963&diff=413261024&oldid=412878486 revert my edit]? Both deleted wikilinks are already part of the article. There is no point mentioning exactly these two words again in the "see also" section, right? --[[User:Gnom|Gnom]] ([[User talk:Gnom|talk]]) 16:26, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

== BLP, ethnicity, gender ==

[[Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons#Include "ethnicity, gender," to match all other guidelines]]

Wikilawyers have been trying to drive through a wording loophole in [[WP:BLP]], saying ethnicity and gender of [[WP:EGRS]] don't apply to living persons, simply because the two words aren't in the policy. (Apparently, they think it should only apply to dead people.) I see that you have participated on this topic at the Village Pump.

They also are trying to remove the notability, relevance, and self-identification criteria at [[WT:EGRS]], but that's another fight for another day, I'm simply too busy to watch two fronts at the same time.<br />--[[User:William Allen Simpson|William Allen Simpson]] ([[User talk:William Allen Simpson|talk]]) 21:35, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Revision as of 21:35, 11 March 2011

July 2008: I am starting "Wikipedians Who don't care about Kate Knight" a.k.a. "Wikipedians against stories about Kate Knight" a.k.a. "Wikipedians who don't give a flying flip about Kate Knight or any other absurd maniacal non-notable criminal" which has as its stated goals, the following"

  • When articles appear to refer to Kate Knight, we remove the Kate Knight portion immediately and in its entirety
  • When articles appear to refer to Kate Knight, the source is reprimanded
  • When articles appear to refer to Kate Knight, sock puppets are monitored
  • When we are bored, we track down previous Kate Knight sources and wreak havoc on their accounts in some way, preferring to do so civilized and within the rules
  • When we encounter fellow "Wikipedians who don't give a flying flip about Kate Knight or any other absurd maniacal non-notable criminal," we exchange the official and secret greeting, which is lacing our comments with nonsense words that can only be interpreted by insiders, which coyly imply that antifreeze and is basically the root of all evils (more basic than money) which forms the pillars of satanic possession. e.g., "That wonky dude's got a fluorescent green tongue, huh?" or "Have an insidious Pre stone on me, you flying freeloader."
  • We drop random hints about the "Kate Knight Manifesto," known by the backronym for okay, sic: "DUH: K!"

I like to saw logs! (talk) 05:30, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, like I said at WP:BLPN, you could get an admin to semi-protect the article which would prevent unregistered users from editing the article for a while. It could just give the article a bit of breathing space and persistent ip vandals might become bored of waiting and go elsewhere. She'sGotSpies (talk) 13:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have taken our difference in opinion about this to the talk page. Flyer22 (talk) 20:29, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

21st Century Sci & Tech

Hi. Twice you've added material to Rachel Carson that you've sourced to 21st Century Science and Technology, and twice I've removed it. The problem is that 21st Century Science and Technology is publication of the LaRouche Movement, and on wikipedia all LaRouche-associated publications are considered to be non-reliable. So we can't use it as a source, and of course we needs sources for statements like the ones you are trying to insert into Rachel Carson. Yilloslime TC 06:31, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, well, it's not like I am sock puppet for LaRouche or using some of their odd ideology. Browse the diverse contribs of me. (icemaker and silk and Fully qualified domain name ) It would appear that the Doctor Edwards articles... one written by him for 21st Century I suppose.
The last edit contained the book quote (see Google book here) and you are still just a "wait a cotton-picking minute" on the 21st Century pub. Did you look at those cites? One shows the picture of the writeup in Esquire (magazine) and this picture: http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/Fall02/Gordon.Edwards.jpg - which is the crux of the quote in Rachel Carson. See The article.
So veracity of 21st Century aside, (I did gather a lot during prior research and before your comments, and I agree with your disparaging remarks of LaRouche, et al), the quotes and statements put in Rachel Carson are there for lack of prettier sources or the Esquire article from September 1971. I like to saw logs! (talk) 07:08, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hey sorry: I didn't mean to suggest that you personally are associated with the LaRouches, in fact I was assuming that you weren't even aware that 21st Century was a LaRocuhe publication. I was just trying to explain why I've removed the things you've sourced to it, and why other editors will probably do the same if you use 21st Century as source for other things in the future. (And as an aside, do you really think Edwards is all that credible, either? I mean, sure, he's sometimes called an "expert" on DDT, though this characterization is generally used only by right-wing commentators. Yet his most substantive screed on the topic was published not in an academic journal or by a respected press, but rather in the magazine of a wacko political cult. If any real scientists took his thoughts on DDT seriously, you'd expect he'd be able to get them published somewhere respectable. ) Yilloslime TC 16:30, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dually vs SRW GVW

Are you positive single rear wheel 1 Tons such as F-350, GM 3500's and Dodge 3500 never had GVW's over 10,001? A Dana 80 had a Gross axle weight rating of 11,000 alone. They obviously got derated, but there were rare snow plow prep package F-450 SRW* trucks that I imagine got decent GVW's. I am not positive either way, and will bet your edit is correct. It makes perfect sense not having dually in the rear and not being able to safely have a 10,001 GVW. However I'm going to be doing some investigating on SRW F-350, Dodge 3500 and GM 3500.

  • The F-450 it really doesn't count anyways being extremely rare. I just mentioned it as a example.

--Dana60Cummins (talk) 15:55, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not a lot of investigation, but from a sample of 1, I know that Ford uses the "9900 lb." GVW on the great majority of the current F350 models with single rear wheels, and I believe this is common practice. People buy into that because certain regulations make a 9900 lb. GVW cheaper to own or title in certain jurisdictions. Everyone knows that they are derated for obvious reasons like that. A lot of boats made for going into the national rivers have 9.9 hp motors. Can you guess why the industry did that?

Looking at the reference near where I edited, there may be some 3/4 tons that exceed 10,000, and I suspect this may be for Ford F250 gassers with a V-10 or whatever. There are dozens of special order possibilities that make that a special problem.

Totally agree with that. I'm thinking I won't find anything SRW w/ a rating over 10,000 GVW. Gonna look anyways, but I'm betting I'll find nothing. Heaviest axles in a SRW truck is a Dana 60/80 combo and Dodge rates it @ 8800 and Ford rates it @ 9900--Dana60Cummins (talk) 20:05, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The only way I know to for sure test it is to go to a dealer and ask them what happens if you order an F350 with optional 19 or 22.5 inch rims, a camper package or snowplow package (which beefens up the front springs) and see if that gets you to 10k. Also try different axles, engines, and axle ratios. The axle ratio is a big factor. Try 2WD. Your normal dealer would need to be pretty smart, so talk to a commercial dealer who sells to fleets and carries chassis cabs and stuff and the F450 on up. The guys who sell the bigger Fords know about the bazillion options for those so they will be used to it. I like to saw logs! (talk) 01:06, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've tried, still haven't un covered any SRW Class 3 trucks. It's amazing, I'd say 99% of full size truck owners don't know this.--Dana60Cummins (talk) 12:57, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Being you already thought me DRW vs SRW. Help me through this one: Locking differential-Alternatives A IP editor seems to think Limited slips can do the exact same thing lockers do. This floors me, so I'm wondering your thoughts on this.--Dana60Cummins (talk) 14:03, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Rosetta Barnstar

The Rosetta Barnstar
For the work done on Truck classification & Locking differential . Dana60Cummins (talk) 14:12, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What about the Ton rating section? I'll brainstorm about that for awhile. It might be while, 2010 maybe, until I add something about that in there.--I like to saw logs too! (talk) 16:09, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Human made"

Yes, I did; a glance at my contribs would have shown the dozen+ reverts I did. :) --Golbez (talk) 15:40, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Deletion

I feel like nominating real life for deletion. What a bunch of rubbish.

Wow. Even the original article author admits: "(I'm probably in serious trouble just for _thinking_ we need an article on this topic)"... which he/ she wrote when the page began back in 2003, which makes this article seven-pushing-eight years old without being deleted yet. Hmm. How'd it get this far? The references look pretty thin, several things pulled from the Internet, very little (perhaps nothing?) drawn from any truly reliable secondary sources (I am not counting the Internet as reliable here, cuz mostly it just ain't... Mostly). But I am with you for proposing a deletion-- real life, whatever its subtle social or technological connotations, doesn't belong as a Wikipedia topic. Now... Do you have the guts to make the proposal?? KDS4444Talk 16:25, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If it happens, and we succeed, I think we should then swap Wikipedia "Real Life Barnstars" to reward ourselves (yes, there is such a Barnstar, and I think this would be a perfectly appropriately ironic use of it). KDS4444Talk 16:25, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

hA, HA, hA (SORRY, MY caps lock MALfunctioned) Ha, ha, ha. Yeah, it's really a stupid thing. I think we should collude on this or get together in a smoke-filled room, except of course I don't smoke, and form a Cabal, except I am not Jewish, at least not in real life! What you said is funny, and I think the Wikipedia is full of some strange folks. I like to saw logs! (talk) 03:54, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So you want to do it? See the article's talk page. I like to saw logs! (talk) 06:34, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First-come, first-served

Hi Uruiamme, why did you revert my edit? Both deleted wikilinks are already part of the article. There is no point mentioning exactly these two words again in the "see also" section, right? --Gnom (talk) 16:26, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

BLP, ethnicity, gender

Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons#Include "ethnicity, gender," to match all other guidelines

Wikilawyers have been trying to drive through a wording loophole in WP:BLP, saying ethnicity and gender of WP:EGRS don't apply to living persons, simply because the two words aren't in the policy. (Apparently, they think it should only apply to dead people.) I see that you have participated on this topic at the Village Pump.

They also are trying to remove the notability, relevance, and self-identification criteria at WT:EGRS, but that's another fight for another day, I'm simply too busy to watch two fronts at the same time.
--William Allen Simpson (talk) 21:35, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]