User talk:JzG

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Christian Zionism in the United KingdomDougweller (talk) 07:04, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't know if this interests you, but a while ago it was cleared up, it's now a mess again with the same editor replacing his earlier stuff. "It is a commonly held belief, whom some see as an established fact, that within the politics of the UK today the Israel Lobby is extremely influential, as is the case in the US, but admittedly in Britain to a smaller yet still substantively significant degree." with no source, as an example

Nomination of Teddy bear parachuting for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Teddy bear parachuting is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Teddy bear parachuting until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. JDDJS (talk) 03:39, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn: Spamming on nearly 50 articles

I came across your comment about Billy Hathorn (talk · contribs) on this talk page, while leaving a message and I saw you created Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Billy Hathorn. I want you to know that after four years Hathorn continues to create articles about unknown people, but what I discovered was worse than that. I tried to talk to the user, but he won't reply. So I did some digging:

In 2006, for example, he cited one reference in Edwin Edwards, which was his own MA thesis!

It appears that most recently he has been creating articles about unnotable religious figures, like L. L. Clover, and then bases the wikipedia articles on his (Billy Hathorn) own publication. I nominated three of these unnotable articles for deletion (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Louisiana Missionary Baptist Institute and Seminary (2nd nomination), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/L. L. Clover and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/North Louisiana History). In each one I've added tags and voiced my concerns about the contradicting sources, missing sources and so on, but have never received a reply back. Instead, Billy (the creator) of the articles keeps citing himself and removing tags without explanation.

For example, concerning the fact that two sources contradict one another I put the tag here, and when it got removed I again put it here. I posted the issues on the talk page here: Talk:Louisiana Missionary Baptist Institute and Seminary.

The creator the article's response was to remove the tags without comment and cite his own article. (His name is Billy Hathorn and the article he cited four times is "Austin Toliver Powers" by Billy Hathorn. It's the same article cited by himself in related articles like L. L. Clover (out of 19 foonotes, 10 are his).

To save an article from deletion, he lists the subject's books and citing himself three times (Hathorn adds Hathorn, "Powers and Clover.") I'd also like to point out there is no evidence of these books on google books.

He has only published what appears to be three articles in local history papers, but has cited his publications in these wikipedia articles: Louisiana Missionary Baptist Institute and Seminary, Earl Williamson, A. T. Powers, L. L. Clover, Barbara Staff, Robert L. Frye, John Tower, Ray Barnhart, Don W. Williamson, Tedford Williamson, American Baptist Association, Crane, Texas, James M. Collins, Tom Craddick, Frank Kell Cahoon, James A. McClure, John Grenier, Mangum, Oklahoma, Port Lavaca, Texas, Henderson, Texas, John N. Leedom, Sheridan, Arkansas, Jimmy G. Tharpe, Little Rock, Arkansas, Ernest Angelo, Somerset, Kentucky, Winthrop Rockefeller, Hot Springs, Arkansas, Jesse Helms, Plano, Texas, Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, Pine Bluff, Arkansas, Taylor W. O'Hearn, Sam H. Jones, DeLesseps Story Morrison, Orval Faubus, Edwin Edwards, Albert Estopinal, he even cites himself on other people's alumni pages here List of University of North Texas alumni and List of Southern Methodist University people. (Click on those and look for "Billy Hathorn.") HHaeyyn89 (talk) 04:36, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

• These references should be removed. He knows full well he should not be doing this. Guy (Help!) 18:18, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

I noticed you also edited on the talk page of Hyles–Anderson College. Please have a look at the article as there is some reverting back-and-forth over a long list of local pastors from small towns. HHaeyyn89 (talk) 07:04, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

It got reverted by the same person. HHaeyyn89 (talk) 05:58, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Page about MEDINA

Hello JzG,

thank you for your advices and comments about the page about MEDINA. Please, remove your request for speedy deletion due to CSD A7 since this criterion can only be applied to articles about web content and to articles about people, organizations, and individual animals themselves, not to articles about their books, albums, software, or other creative works.

Furthermore, please notice that I added some more appropriate citations from reliable sources (see reference 2,14,15).

Regards Hobramski — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hobramski (talk • contribs) 12:46, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

That ANI posting!

Hi Guy,

Just to say that I redacted that posting from the history at WP:ANI after Fred removed it. Basically, it's a ReallyBadIdea™ to post the contents of private correspondence on-wiki - we have precedent for that here - and it's particularly unacceptable if it's from an OTRS queue. Jes' sayin' ... In this case, the person mentioned in the original posting claims not to be involved and that this was part of an ongoing campaign against them. Given that their RL name was involved, I felt it better if this was removed. A request had also been posted to Oversight - Alison ^❤ 20:50, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

• There was nothing in there which identified the sender, and I checked that there was nothing there which was not also available online. Fred's response makes sense, his judgment on this seems sound to me. Removing the thing is of course absolutely fine with me since it seems the real-world posting was a troll. The message to OTRS was not, I think, form a troll, but from a concerned citizen (whose identity I thought I had removed from the pasted content? If not then that was definitely careless). I'd probably have mentioned it if I'd seen the original myself. And of course it's not the first time I've been trolled and it won't be the last :-/ Guy (Help!) 21:12, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Notice of RfAr/Clarification

[1] names you as involved, though it asks for no sanctions against you. --Abd (talk) 06:24, 29 April 2011 (UTC)