User talk:SchuminWeb

Retired

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It's hard to say goodbye to a community that I have been a part of for seven years. During my time as a contributor to Wikipedia, I have grown tremendously as a writer, and have added in many ways, large and small, to countless numbers of articles, and have participated in countless numbers of discussions. However, I have come to realize within the past year that I have reached both the limits of what I can accomplish within the Wikipedia community, and also the limits of my patience in interacting with other members of the Wikipedia community. Thus I feel that it is time for me to move on.

While I still believe in Wikipedia's mission to amass the sum of all human knowledge, I fear that the project may fail because the community will, over time, destroy itself due to what I perceive as constant infighting, the holding of long-term grudges by many users, and general rudeness and incivility on the part of many, which has an alienating effect on other users, both new and seasoned. As an administrator, I received more abuse than I would ever wish on anyone that is doing volunteer work, and this often extended beyond Wikipedia to my website, my Facebook, my Twitter, and my personal email, despite my best efforts to direct all Wikipedia-related inquiries back to Wikipedia. Because of this, I was never really able to escape from Wikipedia, even when using it for research, and it took a toll on me, turning what might otherwise have been an enjoyable activity into a chore, causing me to dread seeing the orange "You have new messages" bar come up, because it inevitably meant having to listen to more whining.

I soon found it increasingly difficult for me to justify to myself why I was still doing volunteer work for a project that I no longer found enjoyable. When I logged out of Wikipedia by choice and left it logged out, I soon came to realize that by not participating in Wikipedia, my stress levels went down, and I generally found myself to be much happier.

I believe that my best days are still ahead of me, but now it is time for me to forge my own path, endeavoring in new works and projects separate from those of the Wikipedia community. I wish all of you the best in your future endeavors, and perhaps our paths will cross again some day. SchuminWeb (Talk) 06:49, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Invicta Watch Group article

Hi Ben. Might you have a look at this? User_talk:Yankees76#IWG regarding the Invicta Watch Group article. Please advise. Thanks and Bests. -- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk)

I'm inclined to say it's probably best to let this one go. The two forum links don't have anything that indicates where the original poster got their information (thus no trail to a reliable source), and the third link doesn't really add anything to the article that we can eventually cite. You're right in your assessment of further reading sections in articles (I consider them a place for materials that want to be inline citations "when they grow up"), but these aren't those, unfortunately. SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:22, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Ben, for having a look and giving your take on it. The material in the forums on watchuseek gave information which was hard to get otherwise. Also, I wasn't creating a "link farm" as the Yankees76 editor opined in a vacuum. But, I'll let it go. Thanks again. Best. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 05:33, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ben. Unfortunately, User:Yankees76 has had a very bad reaction to this matter. I'm sorry for this. See the now-frozen editor's talk page at User_talk:Yankees76#IWG telling me to "go away" and "never post on his talk page again". By now, it's a forgettable if not regrettable incident. I should have just left it entirely. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 00:21, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Just to let you know

You deletions are being discussed here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Editor_Retention#Admins_closing_as_Delete_even_when_the_deletion_discussion_has_a_clear_Keep_consensus.3F Ottawahitech (talk) 15:13, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Other discussions, Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Admin smoke signals needed. I would strongly recommend you do not revert this notice, but state your side of the story on WP:AN as soon as possible, so this can all be dealt quickly and we can move on. --Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:00, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Apparently this has brought every person with whom I've ever disagreed in nearly eight years here out of the woodwork. All I need is for Alkivar to come back and we've got it all. Otherwise, I'm very close to just being done with Wikipedia entirely, since I've been finding myself questioning why I'm still here at all, considering all of the hostility I get here. Bottom line is that Wikipedia isn't enjoyable for me anymore, and so I don't have the inclination or desire to respond to these people clamoring for my head for trying to enforce policy and process. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:35, 28 November 2012 (UTC)