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*'''Keep'''. The Polish Wikipedia article cites sources such as [http://www.wprost.pl/ar/351647/Bitwa-pod-Wiedniem-nie-jest-filmem-historycznym/ this] and [http://www.polityka.pl/kultura/film/1531039,1,recenzja-filmu-bitwa-pod-wiedniem-rez-renzo-martinelli.read this] that demonstrate notability. [[User:Phil Bridger|Phil Bridger]] ([[User talk:Phil Bridger|talk]]) 13:21, 27 January 2013 (UTC) |
*'''Keep'''. The Polish Wikipedia article cites sources such as [http://www.wprost.pl/ar/351647/Bitwa-pod-Wiedniem-nie-jest-filmem-historycznym/ this] and [http://www.polityka.pl/kultura/film/1531039,1,recenzja-filmu-bitwa-pod-wiedniem-rez-renzo-martinelli.read this] that demonstrate notability. [[User:Phil Bridger|Phil Bridger]] ([[User talk:Phil Bridger|talk]]) 13:21, 27 January 2013 (UTC) |
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*:Don't agree... [[User:Kami956|Kami956]] ([[User talk:Kami956|talk]]) 15:55, 27 January 2013 (UTC) |
*:Don't agree... [[User:Kami956|Kami956]] ([[User talk:Kami956|talk]]) 15:55, 27 January 2013 (UTC) |
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*::[[WP:IDONTLIKEIT|Tough]]. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</font>]]</sub> 20:30, 29 January 2013 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''', obviously notable. The movie has a cast full of top names (well, in Poland at least) and has been reviewed in many notable sources (pretty much all negatively): ''[[Gazeta Wyborcza]]'', ''[[Polityka]]'', ''[[Rzeczpospolita (newspaper)|Rzeczpospolita]]'', etc. The movie probably sucks, but that's true for a lot (most?) of notable movies.<span style="color:Blue">[[User:Volunteer Marek|Volunteer ]]</span><span style="color:Orange">[[User talk:Volunteer Marek|Marek]]</span> 19:37, 29 January 2013 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''', obviously notable. The movie has a cast full of top names (well, in Poland at least) and has been reviewed in many notable sources (pretty much all negatively): ''[[Gazeta Wyborcza]]'', ''[[Polityka]]'', ''[[Rzeczpospolita (newspaper)|Rzeczpospolita]]'', etc. The movie probably sucks, but that's true for a lot (most?) of notable movies.<span style="color:Blue">[[User:Volunteer Marek|Volunteer ]]</span><span style="color:Orange">[[User talk:Volunteer Marek|Marek]]</span> 19:37, 29 January 2013 (UTC) |
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*:Thanks for the assessment! All, using the above keywords, here is [http://kultura.gazeta.pl/kultura/1,114438,12681507,_Bitwa_pod_Wiedniem__ze_slabym_wynikiem__choc____i.html ''Gazeta Wyborcza''], and here is [http://www.rp.pl/artykul/940949.html ''Rzeczpospolita'']. Phil already linked to the ''Polityka'' review. The topic definitely meets WP:GNG. [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contribs]]) 19:48, 29 January 2013 (UTC) |
*:Thanks for the assessment! All, using the above keywords, here is [http://kultura.gazeta.pl/kultura/1,114438,12681507,_Bitwa_pod_Wiedniem__ze_slabym_wynikiem__choc____i.html ''Gazeta Wyborcza''], and here is [http://www.rp.pl/artykul/940949.html ''Rzeczpospolita'']. Phil already linked to the ''Polityka'' review. The topic definitely meets WP:GNG. [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contribs]]) 19:48, 29 January 2013 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep'''. Movies are notable. This has received decent press coverage, at least in Poland. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</font>]]</sub> 20:29, 29 January 2013 (UTC) |
*'''Keep'''. Movies are notable. This has received decent press coverage, at least in Poland (as shown already). --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</font>]]</sub> 20:29, 29 January 2013 (UTC) |
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Does not meet the criteria of notability: - The film is widely distributed and has received full length reviews by two or more nationally known critics. - The film was deemed notable by a broad survey of film critics, academics, or movie professionals, when such a poll was conducted at least five years after the film's release. - The film was given a commercial re-release, or screened in a festival, at least five years after initial release. - The film was featured as part of a documentary, program, or retrospective on the history of cinema. - The film has received a major award for excellence in some aspect of filmmaking. - The film was selected for preservation in a national archive. - The film is "taught" as a subject at an accredited university or college with a notable film program. - The film represents a unique accomplishment in cinema, is a milestone in the development of film art, or contributes significantly to the development of a national cinema.) - The film features significant involvement (i.e., one of the most important roles in the making of the film) by a notable person and is a major part of his/her career. - The film was successfully distributed domestically in a country that is not a major film producing country, and was produced by that country's equivalent of a "major film studio." Kami956 (talk) 22:12, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
- Keep. The Polish Wikipedia article cites sources such as this and this that demonstrate notability. Phil Bridger (talk) 13:21, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:39, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:39, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:39, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Keep per the sources that Phil Bridger mentioned. What the nominator listed are points from WP:NF to determine notability if WP:GNG is not sufficient. Phil's sources reflect that it meets WP:GNG, and a cursory look at Google News Search's archives shows a smattering of foreign-language articles that mention the film. It's likely that the film is not one covered by English-language media, so we should assess this topic with care. If there are any Polish-language editors available, additional sources to solidify notability further would be welcome. Erik (talk | contribs) 18:50, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Keep, obviously notable. The movie has a cast full of top names (well, in Poland at least) and has been reviewed in many notable sources (pretty much all negatively): Gazeta Wyborcza, Polityka, Rzeczpospolita, etc. The movie probably sucks, but that's true for a lot (most?) of notable movies.Volunteer Marek 19:37, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the assessment! All, using the above keywords, here is Gazeta Wyborcza, and here is Rzeczpospolita. Phil already linked to the Polityka review. The topic definitely meets WP:GNG. Erik (talk | contribs) 19:48, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Keep. Movies are notable. This has received decent press coverage, at least in Poland (as shown already). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 20:29, 29 January 2013 (UTC)