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:If you want to make a change such as this, the way to proceed is to nominate a category for merger or renaming. If there is a consensus to make the change, then the closing admin will instruct bots to implement it. You made the nomination using [[WP:TWINKLE]], which offers an option "Choose type of action wanted". From the drop-down there, you can select "deletion", "merge", "renaming" etc as appropriate.
:If you want to make a change such as this, the way to proceed is to nominate a category for merger or renaming. If there is a consensus to make the change, then the closing admin will instruct bots to implement it. You made the nomination using [[WP:TWINKLE]], which offers an option "Choose type of action wanted". From the drop-down there, you can select "deletion", "merge", "renaming" etc as appropriate.
:The reason for requiring prior consensus is simply that category changes can be complex and difficult to reverse, and may also be hard to tarck. The [[WP:BOLD]] renaming of an article can usually be reverted in a single edit, but many edits are usually required to revert he renaming of a category, and the scope of the changes is hard to track. That's why CFD is used to seek consensus ''before'' category changes. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 12:55, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
:The reason for requiring prior consensus is simply that category changes can be complex and difficult to reverse, and may also be hard to tarck. The [[WP:BOLD]] renaming of an article can usually be reverted in a single edit, but many edits are usually required to revert he renaming of a category, and the scope of the changes is hard to track. That's why CFD is used to seek consensus ''before'' category changes. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 12:55, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

== Athlete category discussion ==

Hi. You recently commented on the discussion about athlete categorisation but I believe my nomination was not fully understood. Could you please revisit your comments based upon [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ACategories_for_discussion%2FLog%2F2013_January_26&diff=535892156&oldid=535713940 my explanation]? Thanks. [[User talk:Sillyfolkboy|SFB]] 18:08, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

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... and the award for best argument at CfD from a female editor goes to ....

A wonderful New Year's gift at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_November_30#Actresses. I never would have chimed in as vigorously if you hadn't made your own excellent argument. It's so refreshing to see real-world logic prevailing every now and then. Maybe it's time to update WP:CATGRS? Congratulations and best wishes for the new year! Alansohn (talk) 20:58, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Alansohn, I'm sorry for being so slow in thanking you for your kind words above. I know e have had some disagreements, and it's great to have found a contentious issue where we have ended up on the same side. Your encouragement has cheered me up after a rather prolonged and messy process. Thanks! And a (belated) happy new year to you too. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:49, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I totally forgot about this note, and I guess that New Year's wishes are still appropriate during the entire month of January. In looking back over the past few years, I realize that I have learned a tremendous amount about Wikipedia (and about myself) during my past 200 to 300 thousand edits, and through that learned how to better focus discussions at CfD and elsewhere into arguments about the underlying concepts rather than the people involved, as well as deciding when to choose to fight and when to walk away to fight another day. The whole experience with male / female actors is a wonderful example of how some editors have dug their heels in on the issue of categorization, where the overwhelming evidence that the real world and the acting profession differentiate between the sexes can be rationalized away and disregarded based on such arguments as not giving a crap about what the Screen Actors Guild does. Alansohn (talk) 02:16, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Minerals named after people

Hello BrownHairedGirl
You may want to read Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 January 28#Category:Minerals named after people again. You may want to comment it too.
Cheers --Chris.urs-o (talk) 09:38, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Read and Commented. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:40, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thx, still don't know if I should leave it or create Category:People honoured with a mineral name instead. Cheers --Chris.urs-o (talk) 15:27, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
My compromise got a CfD too: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 January 30#Category:People honoured with a mineral name :[ --Chris.urs-o (talk) 12:19, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It would have been better to await the outcome of the first CFD, and considered all the points made there, before creating a new similar category. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:21, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mentioned your name

Just a polite note to let you know I mentioned your name at this discussion here --Scolaire (talk) 21:20, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

CFD question

Hi, i nominate two categories at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 January 31#Governors of Mauritius for renamed, however the discussion was closed because i already created the new category and make the necessary changes. You mention that i should follow the right process by establishing a consensus at 'CFD'. However i can't understand where the 'CFD' is, can you provide me a link to it please. Thanks. Kingroyos (talk) 11:01, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

CFD = Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. Sorry if the abbreviation was unfamiliar.
If you want to make a change such as this, the way to proceed is to nominate a category for merger or renaming. If there is a consensus to make the change, then the closing admin will instruct bots to implement it. You made the nomination using WP:TWINKLE, which offers an option "Choose type of action wanted". From the drop-down there, you can select "deletion", "merge", "renaming" etc as appropriate.
The reason for requiring prior consensus is simply that category changes can be complex and difficult to reverse, and may also be hard to tarck. The WP:BOLD renaming of an article can usually be reverted in a single edit, but many edits are usually required to revert he renaming of a category, and the scope of the changes is hard to track. That's why CFD is used to seek consensus before category changes. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:55, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Athlete category discussion

Hi. You recently commented on the discussion about athlete categorisation but I believe my nomination was not fully understood. Could you please revisit your comments based upon my explanation? Thanks. SFB 18:08, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]