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:Good point. All I can think is that whoever was making the comparison was using a different standard for "height" than that which arrives at 700 ft. for the Met Tower -- but since the link which supports that statement is now available only to registered users, and I'm not registered at the moment (but hopefully will be soon), I can't check it. I'll do some looking around, but I'l comment out the statement in the meantime. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 16:49, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
:Good point. All I can think is that whoever was making the comparison was using a different standard for "height" than that which arrives at 700 ft. for the Met Tower -- but since the link which supports that statement is now available only to registered users, and I'm not registered at the moment (but hopefully will be soon), I can't check it. I'll do some looking around, but I'l comment out the statement in the meantime. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 16:49, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
::Well, I've done a fair amount of searching and I cannot confirm in any way the 614/617 thing. The original source appears to no longer be available, and no other source that I consulted supported the contention, so I've removed that statement from the article entirely (instead of just commenting it out), and will do the same to the [[Madison Square]] article shortly.<p>According to Emporis, the Met Life Tower is {{convert|213.36|m|ft}} (and someone on the Skyscraper page forum claims that's 700 feet 1 inch from the ground to the pinnacle) while One Mad Park is {{convert|188.22|m|ft}}. (These are both "Height (architectural)" as opposed to "Height (tip)" or "Height (roof)") Someone on the Skyscraper forum suggested that heights of residential buildings are often given to the top of the last occupied floor, and speculated that the One Mad could actually be as high as 650 ft., but no one seems to be suggesting that it is taller than the Met Life Tower, which was the original claim. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 07:32, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
::Well, I've done a fair amount of searching and I cannot confirm in any way the 614/617 thing. The original source appears to no longer be available, and no other source that I consulted supported the contention, so I've removed that statement from the article entirely (instead of just commenting it out), and will do the same to the [[Madison Square]] article shortly.<p>According to Emporis, the Met Life Tower is {{convert|213.36|m|ft}} (and someone on the Skyscraper page forum claims that's 700 feet 1 inch from the ground to the pinnacle) while One Mad Park is {{convert|188.22|m|ft}}. (These are both "Height (architectural)" as opposed to "Height (tip)" or "Height (roof)") Someone on the Skyscraper forum suggested that heights of residential buildings are often given to the top of the last occupied floor, and speculated that the One Mad could actually be as high as 650 ft., but no one seems to be suggesting that it is taller than the Met Life Tower, which was the original claim. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 07:32, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

== Updates ==

I work for Rubenstein Communications and I'm proposing the following updates to the page's info box on behalf of One Madison. To mitigate conflict of interest issues, I ask that an editor review the edits and take them live as they see fit. If no objections are had and no edits are made within three days, I will go ahead and update the entry myself. [[User:NinaSpezz|NinaSpezz]] ([[User talk:NinaSpezz|talk]]) 20:25, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

*Add [[Yabu Pushelberg]] to "Other Designers" in info box
*Last sentence of intro paragraph to read: "The building's main lobby and address will be at 23 East 22nd Street when construction of the lobby building is complete."
*History edits:
Although much of the area nearby is included in various historic districts – such as the Ladies Mile Historic District, Gramercy Park Historic District and Madison Square North Historic District – the location of One Madison is not, enabling the building to be constructed "as of right" with the transfer of air rights from the shorter buildings that surround the site. Because of its height, the 600-foot building boasts 360-degree views. [http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/realestate/finally-one-madison-is-back.html?pagewanted=all&_r=2&]
When the building was originally announced, it was to be 47 stories and called "The Saya"; the name was changed to One Madison Park around the time that construction began in 2006 and then to One Madison after it was taken over by the Related Companies. The building as constructed has 60 stories.[2] [http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/realestate/finally-one-madison-is-back.html?pagewanted=all&_r=2&]

At one point, a 22-story building designed by noted architect Rem Koolhaas was to be the "companion" to One Madison Square, on 22nd Street,[3] but later plans called for an 11-story building designed by Cetra/Ruddy, the firm that designed One Madison; although at the time construction resumed in January 2013, permits had been issued for a 6-story building,[4] which will include the main entrance lobby and two apartments.[3] [5] The building is designed by BKSK Architects and will feature a terra-cotta and glass façade. [http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/realestate/finally-one-madison-is-back.html?pagewanted=all&_r=2&] Koolhaas designed the interiors of many of the condominium's amenities, which was planned to include a private screening room, an upscale restaurant run by chef Charlie Trotter,[6] a spa and fitness room, and a wine cellar.[7] The building, which contains 53 residential units, [http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/realestate/finally-one-madison-is-back.html?pagewanted=all&_r=2&] is topped by an 6,850-square-foot triplex penthouse with a 586-square-foot wraparound terrace. [http://nypost.com/2013/10/02/designer-vera-wang-tours-50m-triplex-penthouse/]

As of April 2010, the building had topped out, but was still not complete, having run into financial difficulties. Sales of residential units had stopped, but the appointment of a receiver on April 15 allowed sales to start again.[9] The building continued to be mired in financial and legal problems, including multiple lawsuits and allegations of fraud,[7] and was forced into bankruptcy by some of its creditors in June 2010.[10]
The building is currently owned by a consortium of creditors, including Related Companies, the CIM Group and HFZ Capital Group, who are completing construction. Sales resumed in 2013.[11][12][10]

*Add new section:
Interiors

When Related Companies took over One Madison, about half of the units were finished, with interiors designed by Cetra/Ruddy, the architecture firm that also designed the building’s exterior. For the remaining apartments, which were in various states of completion, the new owners hired the interior design firm Yabu Pushelberg, which also created the interiors of the new main lobby an 23 East 22nd Street and the amenity spaces.[http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/realestate/finally-one-madison-is-back.html?pagewanted=all&_r=2&]

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"Four-star restaurant"

Who has awarded the restaurant four stars? Otherwise "four-star" simply means "expensive and pretentious".--Wetman (talk) 01:48, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good point. I don't remember where the "four-star" came from originally, probably the publicity material, and I took it at the time as being not a rating per se, but an expression of the expectation of a certain quality. A restaurant of that caliber in that area, which was basically making the transition from a fast-food strip inro a mixed-quality strip, but had (and has) no high-quality restaurants (although there are certainly a lot of them with a few blocks of the building in the Flatiron District), was unusual, hence its inclusion. I'll remove "4-star" though, especially because it's now an open question whether anything like that will ever emerge. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:38, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Height of One Madison Park and Metropolitan Life Insurance Tower

The quote "At 617 feet (188 m) it is slightly taller than the landmarked 614 feet (187 m) Met Life Tower across the street and dominates the skyline looking south from the park" seems to be incorrect. The wiki page for the Metropolitan Life Insurance Tower and the emporis page state its height at 700 feet. This would also be consistent with it being the world's tallest at the time it was built in 1909. Does anyone have further official height of the Met Life Tower? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.56.68.216 (talk) 13:30, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. All I can think is that whoever was making the comparison was using a different standard for "height" than that which arrives at 700 ft. for the Met Tower -- but since the link which supports that statement is now available only to registered users, and I'm not registered at the moment (but hopefully will be soon), I can't check it. I'll do some looking around, but I'l comment out the statement in the meantime. Beyond My Ken (talk) 16:49, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I've done a fair amount of searching and I cannot confirm in any way the 614/617 thing. The original source appears to no longer be available, and no other source that I consulted supported the contention, so I've removed that statement from the article entirely (instead of just commenting it out), and will do the same to the Madison Square article shortly.

According to Emporis, the Met Life Tower is 213.36 metres (700.0 ft) (and someone on the Skyscraper page forum claims that's 700 feet 1 inch from the ground to the pinnacle) while One Mad Park is 188.22 metres (617.5 ft). (These are both "Height (architectural)" as opposed to "Height (tip)" or "Height (roof)") Someone on the Skyscraper forum suggested that heights of residential buildings are often given to the top of the last occupied floor, and speculated that the One Mad could actually be as high as 650 ft., but no one seems to be suggesting that it is taller than the Met Life Tower, which was the original claim. Beyond My Ken (talk) 07:32, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Updates

I work for Rubenstein Communications and I'm proposing the following updates to the page's info box on behalf of One Madison. To mitigate conflict of interest issues, I ask that an editor review the edits and take them live as they see fit. If no objections are had and no edits are made within three days, I will go ahead and update the entry myself. NinaSpezz (talk) 20:25, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Add Yabu Pushelberg to "Other Designers" in info box
  • Last sentence of intro paragraph to read: "The building's main lobby and address will be at 23 East 22nd Street when construction of the lobby building is complete."
  • History edits:

Although much of the area nearby is included in various historic districts – such as the Ladies Mile Historic District, Gramercy Park Historic District and Madison Square North Historic District – the location of One Madison is not, enabling the building to be constructed "as of right" with the transfer of air rights from the shorter buildings that surround the site. Because of its height, the 600-foot building boasts 360-degree views. [1] When the building was originally announced, it was to be 47 stories and called "The Saya"; the name was changed to One Madison Park around the time that construction began in 2006 and then to One Madison after it was taken over by the Related Companies. The building as constructed has 60 stories.[2] [2]

At one point, a 22-story building designed by noted architect Rem Koolhaas was to be the "companion" to One Madison Square, on 22nd Street,[3] but later plans called for an 11-story building designed by Cetra/Ruddy, the firm that designed One Madison; although at the time construction resumed in January 2013, permits had been issued for a 6-story building,[4] which will include the main entrance lobby and two apartments.[3] [5] The building is designed by BKSK Architects and will feature a terra-cotta and glass façade. [3] Koolhaas designed the interiors of many of the condominium's amenities, which was planned to include a private screening room, an upscale restaurant run by chef Charlie Trotter,[6] a spa and fitness room, and a wine cellar.[7] The building, which contains 53 residential units, [4] is topped by an 6,850-square-foot triplex penthouse with a 586-square-foot wraparound terrace. [5]

As of April 2010, the building had topped out, but was still not complete, having run into financial difficulties. Sales of residential units had stopped, but the appointment of a receiver on April 15 allowed sales to start again.[9] The building continued to be mired in financial and legal problems, including multiple lawsuits and allegations of fraud,[7] and was forced into bankruptcy by some of its creditors in June 2010.[10] The building is currently owned by a consortium of creditors, including Related Companies, the CIM Group and HFZ Capital Group, who are completing construction. Sales resumed in 2013.[11][12][10]

  • Add new section:

Interiors

When Related Companies took over One Madison, about half of the units were finished, with interiors designed by Cetra/Ruddy, the architecture firm that also designed the building’s exterior. For the remaining apartments, which were in various states of completion, the new owners hired the interior design firm Yabu Pushelberg, which also created the interiors of the new main lobby an 23 East 22nd Street and the amenity spaces.[6]