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#Unfortunately, I am opposing for the same reasons as [[:d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Armbrust|here]], even though adminship should not be that big of a deal.--[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] [[User talk:Jasper Deng|(talk)]] 16:29, 28 July 2014 (UTC) |
#Unfortunately, I am opposing for the same reasons as [[:d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Armbrust|here]], even though adminship should not be that big of a deal.--[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] [[User talk:Jasper Deng|(talk)]] 16:29, 28 July 2014 (UTC) |
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#'''Oppose''' – Echoing the same thoughts as DangerousPanda. That is a pretty extensive block log, and as Panda says, those problems may not be over. Wait about 12 to 15 months, don't edit war, and really listen to Panda's comment. [[User:United States Man|United States Man]] ([[User talk:United States Man|talk]]) 16:31, 28 July 2014 (UTC) |
#'''Oppose''' – Echoing the same thoughts as DangerousPanda. That is a pretty extensive block log, and as Panda says, those problems may not be over. Wait about 12 to 15 months, don't edit war, and really listen to Panda's comment. [[User:United States Man|United States Man]] ([[User talk:United States Man|talk]]) 16:31, 28 July 2014 (UTC) |
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#'''Oppose''' – I don't think I've ever had to make a more reluctant oppose on an RfA. I had always believed that lessons learned from his previous RfAs and his block log would eventually lead to be deserving of the admin tools for the impressive maintenance work he does. As one of the most frequent admins at PERM over the last few years until I took my break earlier this year, I was always grateful for his 'clerking' of the pages, where I often scolded other users for unnecessary meddling in what is essentially admin territory. Armbrust is clearly a dedicated Wikipedian but unfortunately, he has always had a slightly blunt side to his character and there have been numerous lapses of accuracy. These are issues that I cannot easily overlook however much I would like to see him getting the tools some day. But it's not for now - the issues brought up by {{u|Cunard}}, in his {{plainlink|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Armbrust&diff=618770536&oldid=618760705|name=comment}} as to why you are not ready for adminship can't be ignored, just as the block log which is going to take a bit more time to be written off as history. Please keep up the good work, be a [[User talk:Armbrust/Archive 16#Werieth|bit less argumentative]], demonstrate that you can be more of an admin than one who just needs the tools for all that monumental maintenance work you do, and I'll see my way to supporting the next trip down this road - if it isn't too soon after this one. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 17:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC) |
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Voice your opinion on this candidate (talk page) (6/5/1); Scheduled to end 16:13, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
Nomination
- Nom statement
- I would like to nominate Armbrust for adminship. Over the past couple years Armbrust has fulfilled a great demand at Featured Picture Candidates, regularly closing nominations and nominating his own (and, in accordance with FPC rules, letting others close them). His judgment is quite good: he has yet to be wrong in one of these closures, and knows when to ask for further clarification before making a decision. He's also expressed a willingness to do the less glorious administrative duties, such as archiving and CFD. Although the articles he's created are not featured quality, they do indicate a good understanding of referencing and notability guidelines (example). All in all, I think Armbrust would be a great addition to the admin corps. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:14, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Co-nom statement
- I first came across Armbrust (talk · contribs) at WP:FFU, a few years ago, where I started assisted with processing requested uploads. At the time, Armbrust was the main contributor to WP:FFU (a place where we see a lot of new editors) where he patiently yet expeditiously processed requests. His high quality of work, his knowledge of procedure and his interaction with all sorts of editors, caused me to identify him as someone I'd like to learn from. He may not know this, but over the next few months, I WP:WIKISTALKed him (in a good way, methinks). I followed him to WP:FPC and then to WP:ANRFC, both places where he clerks. At WP:ANRFC, I saw how he would assist by performing non-admin closures and I tried to learn from him how to best handle situations. Although, we did not directly interact much at that time, I learned many skills from Armbrust, skills that led me have the community trust me with the mop this past March. Since then, Armbrust is quick to help clean up any mistakes I make (we're all human, right?) but does so in a friendly manner with helpful advice. Since I've known him, he's been a dedicated editor, taking on administrator-type tasks, including clerking WP:FPC, WP:ANRFC, WP:FFU, WP:CFDS and WP:PERM boards.
- Since his last RfA he has taken the community's advice to heart. He has grown significantly as an editor, and shows he has a great understanding of our policies and procedures. He has the skill set that it takes to be a great administrator. I wholeheartedly believe that if the community gave him the mop, it would benefit the project tenfold. This being said, I am happy to co-nominate my friend Armbrust for adminship. TLSuda (talk) 14:07, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: I accept the nomination. Armbrust The Homunculus 14:54, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Questions for the candidate
Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. Please answer these questions to provide guidance for participants:
- 1. What administrative work do you intend to take part in?
- A: I will begin my work at areas that I have experience with: speedy deletion of files (including orphan revisions of non-free files) and the closure of XfDs and RMs. I'm already actively closing discussion as a non-admin, but the lack of the bit restricts my activity to non-deleted outcomes for XfDs and need ask for assistance after some RM closes.
- 2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?
- A: It's quite difficult to choose your best contributions if you have made over 230,000 edits. I have created over 380 articles on the English Wikipedia, my most recent creation is the 2014 Shanghai Masters (a scheduled snooker tournament) and brought the Ronnie O'Sullivan article to GA status. I have also created some intricate templates, like {{POTD category header}} or {{64Teamx2RoundAnd32TeamX2RoundBracket}}. I have been actively closing WP:FPC nominations since December 2012 (successfully nominating 14 images to reach FP status) and archiving the various subpages of WP:RFPERM since December 2013.
- 3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
- A: I have been in comparably few conflicts in the recent months, probably because I edit a mainly conflict-free topic area. However, if I encounter conflict during my editing than I try to remain calm, and solve it through discussion. If the situation makes me too angry/stressed out, than I withdraw from the discussion for a while to cool down and be able to reassess the situation. Going forward I will try to use the same approach, and will not use administrative tools if I'm involved.
- Additional question from Beeblebrox
- 4. Let's just get to the elephant in the room here, your close of the Media Viewer RFC. Upon reflection, do you think the close appropriately reflected the consensus reached there? Also, is there a specific reason you are not participating in the arbitration case that came out of the resulting blow-up?
- A:
General comments
RfAs for this user:
- Links for Armbrust: Armbrust (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)
- Edit summary usage for Armbrust can be found here.
Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review his contributions before commenting.
Discussion
Support
- Support - Armbrust's tireless work patrolling areas that few admins take on (MfD, ANRFC) convinced me that him not being admin is detrimental to the project. I agree with the concerns about edit warring raised lower, but I have faith that Armbrust has moved past these issues. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 16:33, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Support per my nominating statement. Armbrust has had no blocks in more than 15 months, and his self-control continues to improve. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:39, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Support- Armbrust would be a net positive to so many different areas of the community including MfD, ANRFC, FPC, CFD, RfR, FFU, and the list just goes on, that despite the concerns that will probably make success in this RfA very difficult, he would be such an incredible asset to the admin corps that it would be self-destructive to keep him out of all these areas he would be able to help out in. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 16:59, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Support Armbrust has a block log, and a weakness when it comes to snooker articles, but that is a singular failing. I've followed him for two years, barnstar'ed him once, and always been impressed with his willingness to mop up. He has a good attention for detail and knows more about the paperwork and procedure here than probably 80% of admin, myself included. I've gone out of my way to pay attention to his actions because I knew he would run again and I wanted to have an educated opinion. When using the tools, can I trust his judgement? Absolutely. Will he be fair to all comers? I think he will. Is he perfect? Of course not, but no admin is. If we want more admin that actually know how to use the tools and can be trusted to use them to benefit Wikipedia, I think Armbrust is a safe bet. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 17:03, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Support Used to seeing Armbrust at MR all the time, and from my interactions seems like would make a good admin. PaleAqua (talk) 17:12, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Suppport as Co-nom. Cheers, TLSuda (talk) 17:18, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Oppose
- Oppose Unfortunately have to hang mine here. With that extreme of a block log, one would have to be a couple of years block free before RFA. As well, some of those blocks were for edit-warring, and I have seen a few cases of additional EW-warnings on their talkpage since the last block - which means, we're not quite past the EW stuff. Also, although his assistance on Requests for Permissions - Confirmed added:is very much appreciatedend of addition, he's been asked time and time again to remember RFPC is a 2 step process: the second step is to Welcome the user with an appropriate template, based on the nature of the request. To this date, Armbrust has refused this second simple steps. We RELY on admins and admin candidates to listen to requests/suggestions and act appropriately on them. Because of these 2 issues, I cannot support at this time the panda ₯’ 16:22, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Armbrust, you are a good editor, but I don't think you're ready to be an administrator yet. I find that Cunard, in his comment on your talk page, explains the reasons why you're not yet ready for the mop very incisively, so I'll just quote him here. Salvio Let's talk about it! 16:25, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I am opposing for the same reasons as here, even though adminship should not be that big of a deal.--Jasper Deng (talk) 16:29, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose – Echoing the same thoughts as DangerousPanda. That is a pretty extensive block log, and as Panda says, those problems may not be over. Wait about 12 to 15 months, don't edit war, and really listen to Panda's comment. United States Man (talk) 16:31, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose – I don't think I've ever had to make a more reluctant oppose on an RfA. I had always believed that lessons learned from his previous RfAs and his block log would eventually lead to be deserving of the admin tools for the impressive maintenance work he does. As one of the most frequent admins at PERM over the last few years until I took my break earlier this year, I was always grateful for his 'clerking' of the pages, where I often scolded other users for unnecessary meddling in what is essentially admin territory. Armbrust is clearly a dedicated Wikipedian but unfortunately, he has always had a slightly blunt side to his character and there have been numerous lapses of accuracy. These are issues that I cannot easily overlook however much I would like to see him getting the tools some day. But it's not for now - the issues brought up by Cunard, in his comment as to why you are not ready for adminship can't be ignored, just as the block log which is going to take a bit more time to be written off as history. Please keep up the good work, be a bit less argumentative, demonstrate that you can be more of an admin than one who just needs the tools for all that monumental maintenance work you do, and I'll see my way to supporting the next trip down this road - if it isn't too soon after this one. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Neutral
- Still waiting upon more questions to be brought up. ///EuroCarGT 16:54, 28 July 2014 (UTC)