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I suggest that the article is renamed [[Speckle Park]]. Any thoughts? [[User:Richard New Forest|Richard New Forest]] ([[User talk:Richard New Forest|talk]]) 21:57, 25 February 2010 (UTC) |
I suggest that the article is renamed [[Speckle Park]]. Any thoughts? [[User:Richard New Forest|Richard New Forest]] ([[User talk:Richard New Forest|talk]]) 21:57, 25 February 2010 (UTC) |
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== Requested moves == |
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|current1=Canadian Speckle Park|new1=Speckle Park cattle|current2=American White Park|new2=American White Park cattle|}} |
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* [[:Canadian Speckle Park]] → {{no redirect|Speckle Park cattle}} |
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* [[:American White Park]] → {{no redirect|American White Park cattle}} |
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– Drop "Canadian" per [[WP:COMMONNAME]] because the breed itself is not normally referred to with the "Canadian" prefix (see previous discussion on this talk page); rather, the national breed association is named the Canadian Speckle Park Association, and most "Canadian Speckle Park" hits are for the organization not the breed. Add "cattle" because "Speckle Park" is hopelessly naturally ambiguous and will be interpreted by almost all readers as a place. Will be consistent with [[:White Park cattle]]. See recently concluded requested moves of the same sort of [[:Australian Pit Game]] -> [[:Australian Pit Game fowl]], and [[:West African Dwarf]] -> [[:West African Dwarf goat]], and many other similar cases, e.g. [[:Asturian Valley cattle]], [[:San Clemente Island goat]], [[:Black Pied Dairy cattle]], [[:Australian Game fowl]], [[:Plymouth Rock chicken]], [[:Continental Giant rabbit]], [[:Gulf Coast Native sheep]], [[:Nigerian Dwarf goat]], [[:Australian Draught horse]]. Note that the added species common name at the end ("cattle") is not capitalized, because it's not part of the formal name of the breed; the species is capitalized only in the few cases when it is invariably part of the name, as in [[American Quarter Horse]], [[Norwegian Forest Cat]], [[Bernese Mountain Dog]]. <small>(I'm going on the assumption that we want to capitalize breed names at all, as we're mostly presently doing. If some object to this, I would suggest that this RM is not the place for that discussion, so please don't cloud the RM by injecting arguments relating to that other topic.)</small> <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 12:19, 15 September 2014 (UTC) |
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:Hat-tip to {{U|Richard New Forest}} for catching the "Canadian" problem. |
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:See also [[Talk:Asturian Mountain#Requested move]]. |
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Title of article
This article is currently called Canadian Speckle Park. However, as far as I can see the name of the breed is actually just "Speckle Park". For example, that is the name used throughout the web pages of the Canadian Speckle Park Association itself, as well as by breeders in Canada and other parts of the world. Most (though not quite all) of Google hits on the phrase "Canadian Speckle Park" are for the Canadian Speckle Park Association, not for the breed as such. The phrase "Speckle Park" on its own has very many more hits.
I suggest that the article is renamed Speckle Park. Any thoughts? Richard New Forest (talk) 21:57, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
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– Drop "Canadian" per WP:COMMONNAME because the breed itself is not normally referred to with the "Canadian" prefix (see previous discussion on this talk page); rather, the national breed association is named the Canadian Speckle Park Association, and most "Canadian Speckle Park" hits are for the organization not the breed. Add "cattle" because "Speckle Park" is hopelessly naturally ambiguous and will be interpreted by almost all readers as a place. Will be consistent with White Park cattle. See recently concluded requested moves of the same sort of Australian Pit Game -> Australian Pit Game fowl, and West African Dwarf -> West African Dwarf goat, and many other similar cases, e.g. Asturian Valley cattle, San Clemente Island goat, Black Pied Dairy cattle, Australian Game fowl, Plymouth Rock chicken, Continental Giant rabbit, Gulf Coast Native sheep, Nigerian Dwarf goat, Australian Draught horse. Note that the added species common name at the end ("cattle") is not capitalized, because it's not part of the formal name of the breed; the species is capitalized only in the few cases when it is invariably part of the name, as in American Quarter Horse, Norwegian Forest Cat, Bernese Mountain Dog. (I'm going on the assumption that we want to capitalize breed names at all, as we're mostly presently doing. If some object to this, I would suggest that this RM is not the place for that discussion, so please don't cloud the RM by injecting arguments relating to that other topic.) — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 12:19, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Hat-tip to Richard New Forest for catching the "Canadian" problem.
- See also Talk:Asturian Mountain#Requested move.