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Separately, has anyone looked into the possibility that woman-on-woman violence is similar to woman-on-man violence in that the abuser is a woman? That is, women and men alike are less likely to report abuse by a woman, as the stereotypes surrounding women mean that anyone who is abused by a woman is considered 'weak'. Covering this may not be Wikipedia's job, but if someone else has done so we may want to include it. [[User:Ekips39|<span style="color: #080; background: #f0fff0">ekips</span>]][[User talk:Ekips39|<b style="color: #162">39</b>]] 03:52, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
Separately, has anyone looked into the possibility that woman-on-woman violence is similar to woman-on-man violence in that the abuser is a woman? That is, women and men alike are less likely to report abuse by a woman, as the stereotypes surrounding women mean that anyone who is abused by a woman is considered 'weak'. Covering this may not be Wikipedia's job, but if someone else has done so we may want to include it. [[User:Ekips39|<span style="color: #080; background: #f0fff0">ekips</span>]][[User talk:Ekips39|<b style="color: #162">39</b>]] 03:52, 16 December 2014 (UTC)


:[[User:Ekips39|Ekips39]], I commented on this article matter [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Domestic_violence&diff=635556189&oldid=635524243#Revision_of_Same-sex_relationships_sections here] at the [[Domestic violence]] violence talk page. In that section, I cited the conflicting information on domestic violence in same-sex relationships and that domestic violence in same-sex relationships is not well-studied. At the end of that section, I explained to {{User|AVR22}} why I rejected the [[WP:Undue weight]] material that AVR22 added to that article; I also stated, "This might be a good time to create a '''Domestic violence in same-sex relationships''' article, and then your content about lesbian relationships can go there, though it might still need to be cut down so as to not make that article too disproportionately about lesbian relationships. I don't yet see that there is a need to have a Domestic violence in lesbian relationships article." As you can see, <Strike>it does not appear that AVR22 truly considered my advice and instead</Strike> went right to [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation]], where [[User:Joe Decker|Joe Decker]] approved the creation of the Domestic violence in lesbian relationships article. In my opinion, AVR22 was only concerned with getting a grade with regard to [[WP:Student editing]]. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 04:08, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
:[[User:Ekips39|Ekips39]], I commented on this article matter [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Domestic_violence&diff=635556189&oldid=635524243#Revision_of_Same-sex_relationships_sections here] at the [[Domestic violence]] violence talk page. In that section, I cited the conflicting information on domestic violence in same-sex relationships and that domestic violence in same-sex relationships is not well-studied. At the end of that section, I explained to {{User|AVR22}} why I rejected the [[WP:Undue weight]] material that AVR22 added to that article; I also stated, "This might be a good time to create a '''Domestic violence in same-sex relationships''' article, and then your content about lesbian relationships can go there, though it might still need to be cut down so as to not make that article too disproportionately about lesbian relationships. I don't yet see that there is a need to have a Domestic violence in lesbian relationships article." As you can see, <Strike>it does not appear that AVR22 truly considered my advice and instead</Strike> went right to [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation]], where [[User:Joe Decker|Joe Decker]] approved the creation of the Domestic violence in lesbian relationships article. <Strike>In my opinion, AVR22 was only concerned with getting a grade with regard to [[WP:Student editing]].</Strike> [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 04:08, 16 December 2014 (UTC)


:Actually, judging by [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Domestic_violence_in_lesbian_relationships&diff=prev&oldid=635716281 this] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AVR22&oldid=635736933 this], AVR22 did truly consider my advice, but did not beef up the article with more content beyond lesbian relationships; so Joe Decker chose the Domestic violence in lesbian relationships title for the article. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 04:25, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
:Actually, judging by [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Domestic_violence_in_lesbian_relationships&diff=prev&oldid=635716281 this] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AVR22&oldid=635736933 this], AVR22 did truly consider my advice, but did not beef up the article with more content beyond lesbian relationships; so Joe Decker chose the Domestic violence in lesbian relationships title for the article. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 04:25, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

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"constantly takes place within lesbian relationships"

This phrase seems rather odd, as it implies that all lesbian relationships are constantly violent--which is obviously untrue. Is this really the best choice of wording? Perhaps 'constantly' should be removed.

Separately, has anyone looked into the possibility that woman-on-woman violence is similar to woman-on-man violence in that the abuser is a woman? That is, women and men alike are less likely to report abuse by a woman, as the stereotypes surrounding women mean that anyone who is abused by a woman is considered 'weak'. Covering this may not be Wikipedia's job, but if someone else has done so we may want to include it. ekips39 03:52, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ekips39, I commented on this article matter here at the Domestic violence violence talk page. In that section, I cited the conflicting information on domestic violence in same-sex relationships and that domestic violence in same-sex relationships is not well-studied. At the end of that section, I explained to AVR22 (talk · contribs) why I rejected the WP:Undue weight material that AVR22 added to that article; I also stated, "This might be a good time to create a Domestic violence in same-sex relationships article, and then your content about lesbian relationships can go there, though it might still need to be cut down so as to not make that article too disproportionately about lesbian relationships. I don't yet see that there is a need to have a Domestic violence in lesbian relationships article." As you can see, it does not appear that AVR22 truly considered my advice and instead went right to Wikipedia:Articles for creation, where Joe Decker approved the creation of the Domestic violence in lesbian relationships article. In my opinion, AVR22 was only concerned with getting a grade with regard to WP:Student editing. Flyer22 (talk) 04:08, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, judging by this and this, AVR22 did truly consider my advice, but did not beef up the article with more content beyond lesbian relationships; so Joe Decker chose the Domestic violence in lesbian relationships title for the article. Flyer22 (talk) 04:25, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]