User talk:Zhanzhao

Hi, if you dropped by because you were directed to check on me for whatever reason, do read the note on my main user page. It will save you a lot of time and provide a lot of context to whats happeneing between me and my accuser.

Yes, I'm related to DanS.

Random thought: Good thing about wikipedia is that vandals may buzz around like flies, but the admins can easily take care of them with a simple page protect, especially if they hide behind anonymous IPs;D

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

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On From Third World to First

Hi Zhanzhao.

I've managed to get a copy of LKY's memoirs (second volume) from my brother-in-law. I realized all three editions of this book (SPH Times edition, Marshall Cavendish edition, US HarperCollins edition) have different pagination. What I have is the SPH first edition, and it appears some references on the article use the US HarperCollins edition. Should I change them to correspond with the first edition? What do you think? DORC (talk) 09:20, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi @DORC:, as long as you indicate clearly the exact edition you are using, it should be fine. I don't usually use physical book references, but I do see that is the standard other wikipedians follow. More info in ferencing is better than less. For example see how the China Sky article references the print from the "Times Triangle Edition". Zhanzhao (talk) 03:11, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks! DORC (talk) 16:48, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

AN

You are probably correct about the problems that they were arising only after 23 March, nothing really before that and you have been targeted. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:18, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Check Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Arbitrary break. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 17:30, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Also do me one favor. The 2 diffs that you have included after your statement ".. list of so-called "evidence" against me.." are actually incorrect and you should remove them. You can ask any of these two people, I didn't talked about you. I talked to one about this case and talked with other about some software issues and other editor. In a few words, Ponyo and Magioladitis are not involved in your case of SPI. Neither Swarm was. You should not have mentioned them. I also understand that you weren't aware so it was probably not intended. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 17:53, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Actually I mentioned Ponyo and Magioladitis because they have both stepped in to weigh in about your recent behaviour, or asked you to move on, these were both clearly demonstrated on your talk page, so I stand correct in my wording. Zhanzhao (talk) 22:15, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

None of them were related to you, that's why I am asking you to to remove both of them from your comment. Only because they had a email from me, it doesn't means that they concerned you, unless you have got clear proof, them stating it. Is it misleading. They don't mention you, and the "account" Ponyo was talking about was a sock of Sonic2030 that he had blocked. Text won't appear to others anymore it is hidden. Don't make it reappear unless you can prove that they were talking about you. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 00:19, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

I would reply your AN comment here. I did not agreed to a I-Ban because it is very tricky. Both editors can be blocked even if they have contributed on a same article and even if they didn't knew about it. Just like I didn't knew that you were on Lee Kuan Yew, if we were under I-Ban, both could be blocked for contributing on same article. All I agreed to is, that we can return to our forms and interaction, that was prior 23 March. Don't think that we ever checked each others contribution history or talked about each other on user talk pages before that. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 04:41, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

I have an alternative account myself, check Occults (talk · contribs). Everyone is allowed to have alternative accounts but when others view that a person has not handled the multiple accounts(including IPs) within the policies, the editors are often provided with a better offer, when they are restricted to one account. Since it was discussed on AN, restrictions are logged only as a record. I don't think I will have time to file SPIs about you anymore. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 04:52, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

If you can explicitely state on AN that you will not bug me about the old SPIs/accounts, I am willing to accept that. I want to move on too. As I said, if you do see evidence of new socking activity from me, you are welcome to raise it. I just don't want both of us to sound like old tape-recorders and disturb others. Zhanzhao (talk) 05:06, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes I had, you have already agreed to a new proposal as well so it would be new start for both of us. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 05:11, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

I have updated the AN as well. I want this to be a fresh start too. And thanks for removing the vandalism edits on the Lee Kuan Yew page. Zhanzhao (talk) 05:16, 18 April 2015 (UTC)