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::All the Best, [[User:Sherlock4000|Sherlock4000]] ([[User talk:Sherlock4000|talk]]) 15:48, 17 June 2015 (UTC) |
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*98.166.157.157 hardblocked one year. Sherlock [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Economy_of_the_United_States&diff=prev&oldid=638405666 evaded] his block in December with Nononsense and the other accounts were used to stalk and edit war (except the two that are unrelated). Tagging and closiing. <br /> — [[User:Berean Hunter|<span style="font-family:High Tower Text;color:#0000ff;font-weight:900;">Berean Hunter</span>]] [[User talk :Berean Hunter|<span style="font-family:High Tower Text;color:#0000ff;font-weight:900;">(talk)</span>]] 22:12, 17 June 2015 (UTC) |
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Sherlock4000
- Sherlock4000 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
17 June 2015
– This SPI case is closed and will be archived shortly by an SPI clerk or checkuser.
- Suspected sockpuppets
- Wprag (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Kynigosgnosis (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Superagente86 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Danielseo451 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Violeta Pobre (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Compaq85 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Arankwende (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Greetings! I am requesting an inquiry into potential sock-puppetry. I understand it is a possibility these suspicions are incorrect, but I believe they at east merit an inquiry at the least. Sherlock4000 has long been involved in Argentine related pages. I have long been involved in political corruption related pages. We therefore have edit conflicts over a number of articles. No harm there, I know what Wikipedia is.
But what alarms me is that this user interacts in almost no collaboration on the talk pages, never attempts to reach compromises that I have offered on several occasions, is very accusatory towards me, removes reliably sourced content, and is generally disruptive. Also of interest is the general pattern that initially perked my suspicions: one of these suspected socks would make revisions to a page. Then when I, or another user, would revert, Sherlock comes in making the same changes, as if its planned. It doesnt take a stretch of the imagination to think a user dedicated to Argentine pages would do anything to protect the reputation of Argentine officials involved in corruption by enacting a sock-puppetry campaign.
Here
- Gustavo Ferraro
IP:98.166.157.157
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gustavo_Ferraro&diff=636182326&oldid=636054926
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gustavo_Ferraro&diff=636367863&oldid=636352534
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gustavo_Ferraro&diff=636709816&oldid=636653722
IP100.2.75.216
Sherlock
- Jorge Brito
Superagente
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jorge_Horacio_Brito&diff=663117281&oldid=663114915
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jorge_Horacio_Brito&diff=663119830&oldid=663119148
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jorge_Horacio_Brito&diff=663120623&oldid=663119871
Danielseo
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jorge_Horacio_Brito&diff=663130936&oldid=663125912
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jorge_Horacio_Brito&diff=662355335&oldid=662352212
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jorge_Horacio_Brito&diff=662356096&oldid=662355489
Violeta Pobre
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jorge_Horacio_Brito&diff=prev&oldid=640692194
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jorge_Horacio_Brito&diff=prev&oldid=640703924
Sherlock
- Jorge Brito Talk page
Superagente
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jorge_Horacio_Brito&diff=663119406&oldid=663031253
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jorge_Horacio_Brito&diff=663127807&oldid=663119406
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jorge_Horacio_Brito&diff=664182874&oldid=664182314
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jorge_Horacio_Brito&diff=662930574&oldid=662681547
Danielseo
- This edit I believe in particular cements the connection between Superagente and Danielseo
Arankewende
Sherlock
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jorge_Horacio_Brito&diff=663025180&oldid=662934771
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jorge_Horacio_Brito&diff=662398089&oldid=662385261
- Carlos Zannini
Kynigosgnosis
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carlos_Zannini&diff=667270961&oldid=654396229
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carlos_Zannini&diff=667271531&oldid=667270961
Wprag
Sherlock
- This edit was particularly suspicious. It appears as though the Wprag sock was used to justify Sherlock's removal. Also important to note is the Wprag tried to discredit the sources used for that section. However, if one read the article (http://www.lavoz.com.ar/politica/piden-investigar-al-segundo-de-carlos-zannini) they would find it supports the content.
This is also not the first investigation into this user's conduct: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Sherlock4000/Archive.
I hope this investigation clears everything up. If there is sock puppetry abuse here I hope justice is promptly brought. If it shows there is no violation then there is no harm done. Thank you for your consideration. DaltonCastle (talk) 05:02, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
- Considering Sherlock4000's habit of making wild accusations against ideological opponents (the rant below is not new), and considering Sherlock4000's constant accusations that other editors are using socks, and considering the years of revert-stalking, and considering the previous escalating blocks for sockpuppetry, I trust that the next block will be sufficiently long to give other editors time to repair Sherlock4000's damage. bobrayner (talk) 18:14, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
- Well I thought you'd show up sooner or later, Bob. Hardly a surprise, since I've been practically the only editor curbing your POV op-ed pushing on WP Argentina.
- Here we have someone who's been doing nothing on WP Argentina other than cherry-picking malicious and highly biased op-eds (often years old), which he presents as unvarnished fact in Wikipedia voice. Bob's been doing this for 3 years now against a variety of Argentine-related articles. This one for example: [1], which he deleted for no other reason than because it was a positive development ("synthesis" he called it), and this one especially. I mean, there you have him repeatedly posting 3-year-old, anonymous op eds written in crass POV tone predicting something that did not happen (on the contrary, if you look at the many positive developments at YPF since its renationalization) - but which he insisted on tacking on the lead for years!
- It's worth pointing out as well that he has a habit of blanking entire pages without reason or consensus, taking advantage of the editor's absence and with very vague edit summaries to evade detection ("cleaning up", what "the sources" say, etc.). Juriaan, btw, is someone he had blocked merely for accusing him of being paid to edit against certain subjects - a punishment I felt was quite harsh considering Juriaan's caliber as a contributor.
- These two editors - and a few possible sockpuppets of one or both of them ([2], [3], [4], [5]) - only wander into WP Argentina to push vulture fund POV in articles that touch on said dispute, slander people using anonymous gossip, and generally slant articles to push one-sided negative bias and omit mention of positive developments (as shown above and in my edit below). I take care to leave as much of DaltonCastle's edits as I can (as in the case of Carlos Zannini); but hearsay and malicious edits shouldn't stand.
- The record makes it clear that I've not been "sock-puppeting" - I haven't used the 98.166 IP at all since March (and never in an edit dispute, since any coincidences between my Sherlock account and the IP are at least six weeks -usually six months- apart).
- I don't want to interact with these two any more than I have to - and probably wouldn't at all if they weren't smearing Argentine-related articles so constantly.
- Thank You. Sherlock4000 (talk) 19:06, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
- See what I said about "wild accusations against ideological opponents"? The sooner Sherlock4000's socking and POV-pushing are cut off, the better. I note that when these content problems were brought up at a noticeboard, Sherlock4000 refused to cooperate with the consensus there, and just kept on reverting and accusing opponents of being evil in various ways.
- As an aside, the Commodity (Marxism) article was an unrelated pov-fork by an editor who has since been indef'd; I'm trying to clean up some of the mess that Jurriaan left. I can understand Sherlock4000's sympathy for Jurriaan, who felt that ideological opponents must be CIA stooges, but that doesn't justify automatically reverting all my edits regardless of whether they're even related to Argentina. I tire of this harassment. bobrayner (talk) 19:35, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thank You. Sherlock4000 (talk) 19:06, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- The following accounts are
Confirmed:
- Superagente86 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Danielseo451 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- The following accounts are technically
Confirmed, but the few edits by Vaquillonhilton preclude any real behavioral anaysis; the three accounts are
Unrelated to any other accounts:
- Superagente86 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Danielseo451 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Vaquillonhilton (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- The following accounts are
Unrelated to each other and to any other accounts:
- Wprag (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Kynigosgnosis (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- The following accounts are
Stale:
- Violeta Pobre (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Compaq85 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Arankwende (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- The following accounts are
Technically indistinguishable:
- Sherlock4000 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Nononsenseplease (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- There is obvious behavioral evidence that Sherlock4000 is again editing without logging in using 98.166.157.157, the same IP he's used before.
- My own behavioral analysis of Sherlock4000 and Nononsenseplease indicates the following:
- There is no article overlap between the two accounts. However, both edit South American articles, and both seem interested in economics, Nononsenseplease more than the master.
- Both accounts were created in 2008, the master on July 3 and the other on August 31. Both have edited sporadically over the years, although the master has edited significantly more.
- Both use "rv." in their edit summaries.
- Both use detailed edit summaries, often with parentheticals.
- Both refer to trolls and trolling by others.
- Both remove material from their Talk pages with the edit summary "Trash".
- The master posted to Mike V's page, ending with the sentence "Let me know if you have any questions." (see here). Nononsenseplease posted to Dennis Brown's Talk page ending with the same sentence (see here).
- I am persuaded that the two accounts are the same person, but I'll leave that for a clerk to decide.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:28, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Bbb23:
- Thank you for looking into this accusation. The fact is, I've dealing with this user for some time now, since he insists on adding malicious edits to anyone that has or may have any role in the Cristina Kirchner administration (Argentina) and those fighting vulture fund claims for 1600% payouts (Paul Singer's mouthpiece ATFA buys frequent ads and employs numerous internet trolls, though I realize I can't prove this DaltonCastle character is a paid editor). This is just his effort to have me banned; I haven't "sock-puppeted" and the record shows it.
- And thank you for pinging me, since DaltonCastle took care not to notify me of this ban attempt.
- The IP is question had been used in one of these articles (Gustavo Ferraro) was last used six months ago. I was once blocked for the same charge, since I was careless about logging on back then - but over edits that happened six weeks apart, from September 7 to October 22 (thus with no effort to influence an edit dispute, which as you know are rapid-fire in nature). The secondary log-on is one I occasionally use on non-Argentine related subjects only (my primary focus is on WP Argentina), and it's never interacted with DaltonCastle at all.
- DaltonCastle has already been reported by SimpleStitch for malicious/POV editing here and here, and of edit-warring by HughD (recently blocked for doing so on Americans for Prosperity) and canvassing besides ([6], [7]).
- One of his recent edits was this on Eduardo Elsztain: Elsztain himself has been depicted as a corrupt “Kirchnerista” and a member of the “Argentinian Jewish mafia” (!). I might add that this was put there without even a token source and, for maximum effect, placed in the last sentence in the lead. The tone, as you can imagine, is typical of nearly all of his edits on Argentine-related subjects.
- Almost all his edits follow the same pattern: smear the subject with "one source claims" allegations that have no basis at all (made all the easier by Argentina's repeal of criminal libel and slander if presented "in the context of public interest" [8] (which has been twisted to mean almost anything pertaining to public officials or even those in the private sector, if they're famous enough). While this repeal earned Argentina plaudits from Human Rights advocates, it has unfortunately set the stage for a virtual food fight of allegations against public persons in Argentina. DaltonCastle would like to continue posting libellous edits against Argentine topics (and possibly others) with no interference from me or anyone else.
- That's what this is about. Not my using a secondary account for non-Argentine edits (which is allowed) or having failed to log on six months earlier.
- All the Best, Sherlock4000 (talk) 15:48, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
- 98.166.157.157 hardblocked one year. Sherlock evaded his block in December with Nononsense and the other accounts were used to stalk and edit war (except the two that are unrelated). Tagging and closiing.
— Berean Hunter (talk) 22:12, 17 June 2015 (UTC)