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List of international goals scored by Thierry Henry

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Nominator(s): The Rambling Man (talk) 21:17, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Wayne Rooney and Bobby Charlton are getting their highlights highlighted here, so why not good old Terry Henry? An absolute legend of French football, top scorer and second-highest appearances, this geezer needs to be recognised for his international goal-scoring prowess. Hence the list. Thanks, as ever, to those who contribute to the process. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:17, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Comments from ChrisTheDude

• • The caption doesn't need the word "has", given that he's never going to score any more
  • "He surpassed the previous record, held by Michel Platini" - I would make 100% clear that this is the goalscoring record, as the most recent stat mentioned was his number of caps
  • "He has scored more times against Malta" => "He scored more times against Malta"
  • "More than half of Henry's goals have come" => "More than half of Henry's goals came"
  • "More than half of Henry's goals have come in home matches, having scored 31 of his 51 goals in France" - the grammar is a bit mangled here, the subject of the sentence is his goals, so "having scored" isn't correct. I would suggest (also taking into account my last point ;-)) "More than half of Henry's goals came in home matches, 31 of his 51 goals being scored in France"
  • "The majority of Henry's goals, sixteen, have come" => "The majority of Henry's goals, sixteen, came
  • "Four goals in the 2003 FIFA Confederations Cup saw Henry" - goals can't see. I would suggest "A tally of four goals in the 2003 FIFA Confederations Cup made Henry the tournament's top scorer and led to his being voted the "tournament's most outstanding player".
  • Nowhere do you explain what the score column means, or the significance of the bolding therein. I understand it, but others might not......

Hope this helps -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:45, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Indeed, thanks for those comments, each of which I have hopefully addressed to your satisfaction. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:57, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

• Support - all looks good now -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:27, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

• Consider having a stats table with "by competition" as at List_of_international_goals_scored_by_Wayne_Rooney. Nergaal (talk) 18:20, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

The intro seems fine, but it feels like it is missing mentioning his last international goal in 2009. Also, this might be trivia-ish, but he seems to have scored only once when France lost. Nergaal (talk) 23:02, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Addressed the first of your comments, the second I don't find particularly helpful since France were at their best during the time he played for them, so it would be seen as to attribute too much of that success to Henry himself to frame it that way. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:26, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

That could be the case. Just noticed that 123 and 51 do not have actual references. I am sure there is some FIFA website referencing the totals. Nergaal (talk) 19:42, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Ref 3. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:01, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Added it to the sentence "During his international career he played 123 games for France in which he scored 51 goals. " Nergaal (talk) 14:53, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

• ref 9 and 38 are missing dates and 42 seems to need "work=AFP". Nergaal (talk) 15:02, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

  ref 9 has no explicit publication date that I can see, other two addressed. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:04, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

The link has "Last updated: 27/06/2012 11:57 CET" which seemed to me to be the date, but I might be wrong. Spot-checking other refs seemed to be fine to me so support for FL. Nergaal (talk) 18:58, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Can you please do me a favor and merge (use row-width=) the rows with multiple goals per game as was done in List of international goals scored by Bobby Charlton? Nergaal (talk) 19:04, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

No, there's little point as the row merges disappear once the table is sorted in any case. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:08, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

The point is that it looks much better/cleaner. Nergaal (talk) 22:58, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

I understand what you think to be the point. I disagree. This isn't a process where I have to follow every single one of your aesthetic suggestions, thank you. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:23, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

And here I was thinking that me choosing to be pleasant and constructive to you would generate the same type of attitude from you. Nergaal (talk) 18:27, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

I've done nothing other than to say thank you but I disagree and that I won't be taking up every single personal aesthetic preference of your's. I think our positions are clear, thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:32, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Mattythewhite (talk) 20:21, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Comments from Mattythewhite Should be consistent with FIFA/UEFA in the lead; they're sometimes included, sometimes not. Think I've fixed this. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:28, 18 October 2015 (UTC) Can't help but feel the lead needs beefing up a bit. Feel free to do so, or explain what needs expansion. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:28, 18 October 2015 (UTC) I feel "No." and "Ref." would benefit from tooltips to explain what they stand for. Have done. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:28, 18 October 2015 (UTC) Per H:TABLE, "The first cell of a row is identified as a row header by starting the line with "<code>! scope="row" |</code>" instead of "<code>|</code>". This applies to the entries in the "No." column. Yes, of course. Working. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:28, 18 October 2015 (UTC) Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:31, 20 October 2015 (UTC) I think the text in the table would look better left-aligned, and would be consistent with the Rooney list. Left aligned. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:28, 18 October 2015 (UTC) Could a "Cap" column be included, like at Rooney? It could, working. 18:28, 18 October 2015 (UTC) Finished. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:43, 20 October 2015 (UTC) Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 16:52, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

• Support Happy to support this now. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:21, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Resolved comments from —Vensatry (ping)

Comments from —Vensatry (ping) Images need alt text Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:04, 18 October 2015 (UTC) The last sentence of the opening para looks extremely lengthy, consider splitting it. split. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:04, 18 October 2015 (UTC) Check for dashes Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:28, 18 October 2015 (UTC) Any specific reason for not linking the publishers in refs? No, feel free to link them yourself if you feel the need. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:28, 18 October 2015 (UTC) See User talk:Colonies Chris#Duncan Renaldo filmography for some debate over whether or not publishers should be linked, apparently some think not, some think yes, some think in between. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:25, 18 October 2015 (UTC) You might want to see this one as well. I personally don't think it does any harm; in most cases it'll definitely serve as clue to establish the reliability of the publisher. —Vensatry (ping) 14:37, 21 October 2015 (UTC) —Vensatry (ping) 05:01, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

• Support – Certainly not my area of expertise but looks good. —Vensatry _(ping) 14:37, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Harrias

;Comments from Harrias talk The "Apps" in the Goals by year table sorts wrong for me, it might be because of the note. Adding a number data sort type ought to fix it. Otherwise, everything looks good. Fancy taking a look at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/England cricket team Test results (1877–1914)/archive1 if you get a chance? Harrias talk 12:39, 19 October 2015 (UTC) Fixed that. Will look at the criclist in due course! The Rambling Man (talk) 18:33, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

• Support – nice work. Harrias ^talk 10:34, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Closing this FLC as passed. Consider nominating the list at WP:TFLS, and remember that the best way to make sure that nominations get through the process faster is to review other nominations. --PresN 16:28, 26 October 2015 (UTC)