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The Red Tyger Church

Hello, I am a long-time Wikipedian but spend most of my time writing on my Facebook page about what I call "under appreciated rock bands", i.e., those with no Wikipedia article. I am not trying to revive the article on The Red Tyger Church, but I am interested in seeing if I can view the deleted page. I guess I have not tried to look at a fully deleted article before; can you help me take a look? Thank you in advance. Shocking Blue (talk) 09:02, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, you can't view The Red Tyger Church. Only admins can view deleted articles.  Sandstein  17:07, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, and notice

Thank you for clarifying what the "six months" referred to; I thought I could appeal at any time, and was thinking that maybe I would have a "better shot" in six months, but wasn't quite sure. Now I know the difference between appealing to you personally and appealing to AE. With that said, I have filed an appeal at AE, and this is your notice. Regards,TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 23:37, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

i need to create a wikipedia article you deleted

I need to create "Aniyan Midhun" wikipedia Aticle — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhanu246 (talk • contribs) 19:58, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

How interesting.  Sandstein  20:01, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

AE sanction

Is my sanction indefinite? Mr Ernie (talk) 19:54, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes.  Sandstein  19:54, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Please explain to me how an indefinite sanction is warranted based on my comments in that particular AE request, so that I may avoid such actions in the future. I had apologized for my comments, and struck another comment that I deemed inappropriate. I would request that you please place a 1 year duration for the sanction. Mr Ernie (talk) 19:59, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Feel free to appeal it after whatever you think is an appropriate time, and provide examples of useful AE comments you would have made if you had been able to. Because sanctions are preventative, not punitive, I don't particularly like time-limited sanctions.  Sandstein  20:11, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

You want me to write hypothetical AE comments for my appeal process? If you will place an expiration time of 1 year or something, I will voluntarily withdraw from AE on the whole, indefinitely. I do not like having an indefinite sanction hovering over my account. In my 10 years of editing, your administrative action is one of the most offensive things I've had happen to me. Per WP:ADMINACCT, please take my comment seriously and with good faith. Mr Ernie (talk) 20:23, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

No, I mean, at the time you decide to appeal the sanction, point to ongoing AE threads and say, "if I could, I would write X, Y and Z, and that would help admins decide what to do with the request". Bonus points if it is not in support of an editor whose opinions you share. – Generally speaking, I am profoundly disinterested in your feelings; I am only interested in an AE board that does not make me waste my time. As your comments have so far.  Sandstein  20:32, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Again, per WP:ADMINACCT your flippant responses are in fact having quite the demoralizing affect on me. I have asked for good faith explanations as to why the sanction was indefinite, and for an enactment of an expiration date so I do not have to participate in the appeal process. I do not want to participate any longer in AE, yet instructions you gave me for a potential appeal include a hypothetical participation in AE. So, per the law of holes and WP:STICK, this will be my final comment to you. Please take it seriously and provide a substantive response. Mr Ernie (talk) 20:44, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) If you don't want to participate in AE, then why do you care? TimothyJosephWood 20:54, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

That's a valid point, and I addressed it above. I don't want an indefinite sanction hanging on to my account. I've seen such sanctions and block logs used against editors in content spats. Mr Ernie (talk) 20:57, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

I mean, it is a powerful debuff...makes it nearly impossible to roll crits. TimothyJosephWood 21:03, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry I don't understand that reference. Sandstein am I allowed to open new requests for arbitration enforcement, like to file an appeal for example? The sanction you wrote does not say so, but the appeal process you linked does. Mr Ernie (talk) 22:24, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, you may appeal your sanction at any time.  Sandstein  22:31, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

User behavior

Hi, I don't necessarily want to open an AE action, but I am getting sick and tired of being treated uncivilly and getting called names by Nishidani. If you look at User:Sir_Joseph/sandbox, I was working on an AE action, but if someone can tell Nishidani that he needs to cool his behavior, I'd be OK with that. There have been many times where he has used the edit summaries to attack, and he has also many times called those he disagreed with names. I know he violated 1RR but it's the behavior that upsets me more. thanks. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 21:08, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, admins aren't the user conduct police. I recommend that you use the procedures described at WP:DR to resolve disagreements.  Sandstein  21:17, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

OK, but I don't understand how admins are not the user conduct police, they are exactly that. If I bring this case to AE, it's an open and shut case of violating DS and casting aspersions, which could theoretically result in a block. I don't necessarily want a block for him, just a warning issued. Isn't that better than doing the whole bureaucratic process? Sir Joseph ^(talk) 21:27, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

If you want AE action, please make a request for it at WP:AE. This ensures we have all the evidence we need and an opportunity to respond.  Sandstein  06:16, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

"BDs are not cartoons"

Do you have any idea what you're talking about when you say this? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 10:08, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

And the point of this rhetorical question is?  Sandstein  10:42, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

You really do have no clue what you're talking about. Neither comics nor BD (which are comics) are "cartoons". Cartooning is a method of making comics; photography is another, as in fumetti. A person who makes cartoons is a cartoonist. A "comics writer" is a person who produces scripts for an artist or team of artists to illustrate in Marvel- and DC-style assembly-line comic books. The terms rarely apply outside of that context. It certainly doesn't apply to Florence Cestac. Please revert and leave these things to those of us who know what we're talking about. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 10:52, 3 March 2017 (UTC)