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I saw that you edited a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Attacks_on_suspected_cow_smugglers_in_India&diff=779440176&oldid=779439974 a recent article]. I'm actually writing a similar article [[User:Vice regent/CowVigilantism|here]]. I'd love it if you could give me some feedback on it. Once completed, I plan on moving it to wikipedia proper.'''[[User:Vice regent|VR]]''' <sub>[[User talk:Vice regent|'''<font color="Black">talk</font>''']]</sub> 21:47, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
I saw that you edited a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Attacks_on_suspected_cow_smugglers_in_India&diff=779440176&oldid=779439974 a recent article]. I'm actually writing a similar article [[User:Vice regent/CowVigilantism|here]]. I'd love it if you could give me some feedback on it. Once completed, I plan on moving it to wikipedia proper.'''[[User:Vice regent|VR]]''' <sub>[[User talk:Vice regent|'''<font color="Black">talk</font>''']]</sub> 21:47, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

:[[User:Vice regent|VR]] Sorry about the delay. My only involvement at the article was to undelete it as it shouldn't have been speedily deleted. I don't know anything about the topic. I've had a read over your draft though and can't see any problems with it. It might be a good idea to link to [[2015 Dadri mob lynching]], [[2016 Jharkhand mob lynching]] and [[2017 Alwar mob lynching]]. If you want more feedback though, [[User:SpacemanSpiff]] and [[User:Sitush]] know a lot more about India than I do! [[User:Smartse|SmartSE]] ([[User talk:Smartse|talk]]) 20:59, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

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Suspected sockpuppets - Draft:Zahroof Valves

Hello Smartse,

I have no idea how to use this site or the language and technicalities used here. A company that I had hired was writing a Wiki page on the company that I represent, Zahroof Valves Inc. The page was "Draft:Zahroof Valves". At some point, the person who had created the initial draft asked me to take a look at it and sent me the link to the draft page. Instead of copying out the page and making mark ups in a different document, I found that I could mark up the page myself, and I did. Later, I got the notice that the draft had been removed for suspected sockpuppets (I really don't have a full understanding of this) and I believe I've also been listed as s suspected sockpuppet. Look, whatever that means, I don't think I'm a sockpuppet - I simply wanted to ensure the correctness of the draft of the company that I represent. Secondly, I would like that Wiki page on the company, because it is quite genuine.

How do I prove that everything I've done is above board and genuine? What are my next steps?

Regards, Zahroof — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZahroofM (talkcontribs) 03:04, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ZahroofM. The company that you hired to write the article has broken several of our rules about how to edit. First of all, if someone is being paid to create articles here, per Wikipedia's terms of use, they have to disclose that this is the case so that other editors can review their edits. Whoever it was that you hired was almost certainly aware of this but chose to try and subvert our processes. Secondly, to try and hide from scrutiny they used different accounts (what we term 'sockpuppetry'). A limited number of users are able to check the IP addresses of user accounts and in this case confirmed that several accounts were being used by the same person. Although you were suspected at one point, the investigation found that you are not a sockpuppet. This was the reason that I deleted the draft that they had been working on as we have a policy of deleting articles created by sockpuppets in order to deter them from doing it again.
Regarding an article about your company: the vast majority of companies are not sufficiently notable to deserve a Wikipedia article. In order to create a page we need several newspaper/magazine articles from sources like Wired or New York Times which discuss a company in detail. In the case of Zahroof Valves, the company does not appear to have attracted such attention and so we should not have an article about it. I'm sorry that this is the case, particularly if the company you were dealing with told you otherwise. If I were you I would be complaining to the company you paid to write the article as they should never have taken you on as a client in the first place and they also used deceptive techniques in order to try and write it. SmartSE (talk) 12:47, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Suspected sockpuppets - Draft:Zahroof Valves

Hi Smartse,

I apologize for creating a new section. I couldn't figure out how to reply to the email.

Thank you for your explanation of the case. We do have several articles published in prestigious magazines in our industry. There should be some articles in Wired, etc. regarding our company. But, I don't know whether they fit your criteria. Due to my lack of knowledge regarding this, our PR firm proposed that they write a page for us on Wikipedia, and I agreed. I didn't know that they had subverted your policies or were doing anything out of the ordinary.

Best regards, Zahroof — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZahroofM (talkcontribs) 14:23, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Smartse!

Dear Smartse,

I'm Paul Guerra, an Ecuadorean actor, and lawyer with more than 10 years of trajectory in the Entertainment industry. I've hired 6 months ago a person to create my Wikipedia page since that was my agent's advice. I just realized it got deleted by you because of a G5. I understand that and I'm sorry this person I hired did it, I just didn't know he was blocked or banned or anything.

Is there something I can do to put my page up again? I mean, I really have proof like magazines, newspapers, youtube clips, interviews, etc. that prove that I'm a legit artist.

I thank you for your attention to this matter.

All the best,

Paul Guerra — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulgrra (talkcontribs) 07:48, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Paul. Thanks for the note. It's an unfortunate situation for everyone I'm afraid except whoever it is you paid who is willing to disrupt a community of volunteers for their own profit. Rather strangely just after you left this note, someone recreated the article about you. It does appear that you meet our notability requirements for actors meaning that we should have an article about you. I have added some references present in the article I deleted which demonstrate this. I will not be restoring the full version however and request that you leave the article as it is and let if grow organically if someone is interested to write more about you. Thanks SmartSE (talk) 20:27, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again SmartSE. Please can you tell me what is the status of your evaluation for my Maryann Keller page? There's been a misunderstanding. We have already talked about this on your old page here . Please can you help me to remove sign ‘undisclosed paid content’ because the page has not been paid for. Please. This is my first page. Thank you so much for your time. Cutie girly (talk) 18:50, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Recent article

I saw that you edited a a recent article. I'm actually writing a similar article here. I'd love it if you could give me some feedback on it. Once completed, I plan on moving it to wikipedia proper.VR talk 21:47, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

VR Sorry about the delay. My only involvement at the article was to undelete it as it shouldn't have been speedily deleted. I don't know anything about the topic. I've had a read over your draft though and can't see any problems with it. It might be a good idea to link to 2015 Dadri mob lynching, 2016 Jharkhand mob lynching and 2017 Alwar mob lynching. If you want more feedback though, User:SpacemanSpiff and User:Sitush know a lot more about India than I do! SmartSE (talk) 20:59, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]