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Joefromrandb

Initiated by - Mr X 🖋 at 13:29, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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MrX (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), filing party

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Statement by MrX

I respectfully request that the Arbitration Committee examine evidence that Joefromrandb has exhibited an ongoing pattern of overtly-hostile editing characterized by repeated personal attacks, assumptions of bad faith, inflammatory edit summaries, and edit warring. There is compelling evidence that Joefromrandb's views editors who disagree with his edits as enemies, and that he treats Wikipedia as a WP:BATTLEGROUND. His interaction with other editors are largely in opposition to the principle of the fourth pillar.

Joefromrandb's conduct was first brought to the committee's attention when a request for arbitration filed on October 20, 2017 by TomStar81. On November 8, 2017, the committee decline to intercede by seven to three, with two members recusing.

The day after the RFAR was declined, Joefromrandb resumed hostilities at talk:Kim Davis [1][2][3][4]. This was followed by bellicose talk page comments [5][6][7] in the form of personal attacks and assumptions of bad faith. Two months later, he reverted an editing restoring the removal of a large amount of content. His response to my request to discuss the matter on the talk page was to delete my request with the edit summary "No-troll zone" it was only after admins El C and Floquenbeam intervened that Joefromrand nominally joined the talk page discussion. There, he continued making personal attacks [8][9], including one directed at an admin [10].

After the matter was brought to ANI, he continued to maintain that Prhartcom and I put lies in the article.[11][12][13] When asked to provide evidence to substantiate his accusation by two admins and another editor, he said that he should be able to the next morning.[14] That was more than three days ago.

There has been at least one other recent incident involving edit warring in which he exhibited hostility toward another editor.

Evidence will show that this editor is unable or unwilling to follow our WP:NPA, WP:EW, and WP:EDITING policies, even after numerous warnings and blocks. It will also show that, in many case, if his edits are reverted, he becomes belligerent and uncooperative.

With the hope of preempting objections about swear words or subjective civility standards, this comment from the last request for arbitration sums it up nicely:

"No one cares if someone swears; what they should care about is if someone becomes so hard to work with that it gets in the way of developing good content. That was the open question before the Committee, not whether the phrase "fuck off" is inherently upsetting."
— Euryalus

Thank you for your consideration.- Mr X 🖋 13:29, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why or why not the Committee should accept the case request or provide additional information.

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Joefromrandb: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/0/0>

Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse)

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+== Joefromrandb ==
+'''Initiated by ''' - [[user:MrX|Mr]][[user talk:MrX|X]] 🖋 '''at''' 13:29, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
+=== Involved parties ===
+<!-- Please change "userlinks" to "admin" if the party is an administrator -->
+*{{userlinks|MrX}}, ''filing party''
+;Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
+<!-- All parties must be notified that the request has been filed, immediately after it is posted, and confirmation posted here. -->
+;Confirmation that other steps in [[Wikipedia:dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] have been tried
+*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=821755471#Joefromrandb_conduct  January 18, 2018]
+*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive967#Long-term_gross_incivility_and_WP:BATTLE October 7, 2017]
+*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive958#Continued_battleground_mentality_of_Joefromrandb July 1, 2017]
+*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive956#User:Joefromrandb June 7, 2017]
+*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive259#User:Joefromrandb January 30, 2014]
+*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive825#User:Joefromrandb December 30, 2013]
+*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive820#Request_to_review_block_of_Joefromrandb November 26, 2013]
+*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive807#Incivility,_personal_attacks,_bad_faith_by_User:Joefromrandb August 7, 2013]
+=== Statement by MrX ===
+I respectfully request that the Arbitration Committee examine evidence that Joefromrandb has exhibited an ongoing pattern of overtly-hostile editing characterized by repeated personal attacks, assumptions of bad faith, inflammatory edit summaries, and edit warring. There is compelling evidence that Joefromrandb's views editors who disagree with his edits as enemies, and that he treats Wikipedia as a [[WP:BATTLEGROUND]]. His interaction with other editors are largely in opposition to the principle of [[WP:5P4|the fourth pillar]].
+Joefromrandb's conduct was first brought to the committee's attention when a request for arbitration [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&oldid=809215742 filed on October 20, 2017] by {{u|TomStar81}}. On November 8, 2017, the committee decline to intercede by seven to three, with two members recusing.
+The day after the RFAR was declined,  Joefromrandb resumed hostilities at [[talk:Kim Davis]][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=809447696&diff=prev][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=809512864&diff=prev][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=809447696&diff=prev][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=809622005&diff=prev]. This was followed by bellicose talk page comments [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=809718731&diff=prev][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=809859685&diff=prev][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=810001179&diff=prev] in the form of personal attacks and assumptions of bad faith. Two months later, he reverted an editing restoring the removal of a large amount of content. His response to my request to discuss the matter on the talk page was to delete my request with the edit summary [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJoefromrandb&type=revision&diff=821002667&oldid=821000393 "No-troll zone"] it was only after admins {{u|El C}} and {{u|Floquenbeam}} intervened that Joefromrand nominally joined the talk page discussion. There, he continued making personal attacks [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=821026652][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=821027301], including one directed at an admin [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=821135875].
+After the matter was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=821755471#Joefromrandb_conduct brought to ANI], he continued to maintain that {{u|Prhartcom}} and I put lies in the article.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=821193391&diff=prev][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=821222080&diff=prev][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=821227529&diff=prev] When asked to provide evidence to substantiate his accusation by two admins and another editor, he said that he should be able to the next morning.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=821231110&diff=prev] That was more than three days ago.
+There has been at least one other [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive359#User:Joefromrandb_reported_by_User:Violetriga_(Result:_Warned_user(s)) recent incident] involving edit warring in which he exhibited hostility toward another editor.
+Evidence will show that this editor is unable or unwilling to follow our [[WP:NPA]], [[WP:EW]], and [[WP:EDITING]] policies, even after numerous warnings and blocks. It will also show that, in many case,  if his edits are reverted, he becomes belligerent and uncooperative.
+With the hope of preempting objections about swear words or subjective civility standards, this comment from the last request for arbitration sums it up nicely:
+{{talkquote|"No one cares if someone swears; what they should care about is if someone becomes so hard to work with that it gets in the way of developing good content. That was the open question before the Committee, not whether the phrase "fuck off" is inherently upsetting."|source=[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=808150392 Euryalus]}}
+Thank you for your consideration.- [[user:MrX|Mr]][[user talk:MrX|X]] 🖋 13:29, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
+=== Statement by {Non-party} ===
+Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why or why not the Committee should accept the case request or provide additional information.
+<!-- * Please copy this section for the next person. * -->
+=== Clerk notes ===
+:''This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).''
+*
+=== Joefromrandb: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/0/0> ===
+{{anchor|1=Joefromrandb: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter}}<small>Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse)</small>
+*