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Concerning "Phenomena" composer credit

What is standard practice for "composer" credits? Goblin is listed as composer A) in the film, B) by the film's copyright holders, C) in promotional material, D) most online film databases. Their work comprises a large portion of the film's official soundtrack listing: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Phenomena-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack/dp/B003Z42Z8I — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robbymuller (talk • contribs) 01:15, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

as stated on the Phenomena talk page, we should follow the rules of the infobox. Which state to that articles info boxes should be respective to the content in the article. As is the case with several European genre productions of the past, their credits are often stated in a way that does not accurately reflect their film, whether its aliases, or fake film staff, etc. I believe listing the artists in the infobox who are composers does not make it clear what the score is. I feel the prose gives a more accurate description of the music score is in the article. Just listing three musicians in the infobox is not so clear. Not everything needs to be included in the infobox if it's not of the benefit of the reader. That's why I suggest leaving it empty is more clear than having a simple infobox entry which can be difficult to interpret accurately. Hope that helps @Robbymuller:. Andrzejbanas (talk) 03:17, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've blocked Robbymuller for being a sock puppet. Pleased let me know if more sock puppets show up. They probably will. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:23, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I thought the edits were a little too familiar, but I wasn't really sure who he might be sockpuppeting as. I'll keep you in the loop @NinjaRobotPirate:. Andrzejbanas (talk) 12:15, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's TroySchulz (talk · contribs). He mostly edits horror films, cinematographers, and alt-right memes. Most of his edits are either unsourced or poorly sourced, and he's generally incompetent, especially at identifying reliable sources. A lot of his edits are fairly easy to recognize because they add a lot of obviously unreliable sources to horror films. I usually do a mass-rollback on his edits whenever I find a new sock puppet. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:55, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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UPA & Gargantuas

Hey there, I barely just now saw the UPA topic you brought up on the War of the Gargantuas talk page. I wish you had tagged me in that post because I don't receive notifications about new topics on talk pages unless someone tags me or I manually head to the talk page myself. I would have definitely thrown in my two cents and some sources to bring further validity to the matter. Anyways, since we're here, in the most recent book (released October 2017) on the subject, Ishiro Honda: A Life in Film, from Godzilla to Kurosawa by Steve Ryfle & Ed Godziszewski, it specifically states on page 222 that Saperstein's UPA entered a deal with Toho where they would co-finance 3 sci-fi films: Invasion of Astro-Monster, Frankenstein Conquers the World, and War of the Gargantuas.

On page 231 of that same book, it states that Gargantuas was the 3rd & last of the Toho/UPA collaboration. The next few pages explain that Saperstein was the one who hired Tamblyn, requested specific scenes be filmed for the overseas version, demanded the inclusion of Kipp Hamilton, and the shipment of film/sound negatives. The film was indeed a Toho/UPA co-production given that Saperstein co-financed the film and had some creative input during filming. We should restore the Toho/UPA co-production material since there is now a very recent source that confirms it. The Galbraith IV source is outdated by 10 years and some information in it is either inaccurate or missing. The Honda book outright confirms Gargantuas was indeed a Toho/UPA co-production. Armegon (talk) 19:08, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Armegon:. You are right, I should have pinged you. I don't think we've chatted too much before. :) Your source sound strong. Let's stick with the new source for now as its the most recent one. I appreciate your dedication to these old Japanese monster films, because these articles were once in a really sorry state. Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:03, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why thank you! And I appreciate your contributions as well. It's through your work that I learn what is and isn't acceptable to use in wiki. It's great to see others care about these films & the accurate information behind these films as much as I do! :) Armegon (talk) 20:05, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Took the words right out of my mouth @Armegon:! Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:14, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Get a clue

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Please don't spam my wall, but having "Butterfly" by Crazy Town spammed on my wall is one of my favourite posts I think I've ever gotten on wikipedia. Andrzejbanas (talk) 03:23, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There's 8 sources for hip hop

EIGHT SOURCES. STOP ADDING FALSE INFORMATION. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.182.82.104 (talk) 03:25, 12 May 2018 (UTC) YOU REMOVED 8 SOURCES TO ADD UNVERIFIED CLAIMS. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.182.82.104 (talk) 03:29, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hong Kong crime films

Hi Andrzejbanas, would you mind if we changed Category:Hong Kong crime films to Category:Hong Kong crime drama films? Most action comedies are also "crime films" but I think "crime drama films" is the more precise title to go by. There already exists a Category: Japanese crime drama films for example. - DA1 (talk) 23:51, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'd leave it as crime films. Some of the crime films cross far more with action and thriller films than dramas (the early John Woo films for example). I'd say its best to keep it simple. Andrzejbanas (talk) 00:04, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That was kind of my issue with it. It seemed far too broad, but yet under-utilized (the list looks small). Action film and crime film are heavily (not entirely) synonymous the way it currently stands, so I thought it would be redundant. DA1 (talk) 00:08, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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VIVIsectVI

Hi, Andrzejbanas. Thanks for your help on the VIVIsectVI page. It's always annoying when you mix-up or lose a citation. Anyway, on the treblezine citation (http://www.treblezine.com/10-essential-industrial-albums/), it says Skinny Puppy doubled down on their electro roots (Ministry was the one to move away). And the list is a '10 essential industrial albums' list, so that leaves us with electro and industrial. I agree it's not ideal, but I think it works while I look for a more direct reference. CelestialWeevil (talk) 15:13, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Production Countries?

I understand that including too many countries who produced a film in the lead would be overwhelming but Monster Zero, Frankenstein, and Gargantuas only have two. It's not exactly overkill. The MOS:FILM standards was likely meant for film articles like Lara Croft: Tomb Raider or Dunkirk (2017 film) where they have 5 or more production countries, too bloated to include in the lead. Two seems sensible. For WP:FILMDIST, it states "If there are only two distributors in total (a domestic and foreign) then include both of them". So there is some level of precedent that including two things is not considered overkill. So why can't we extend this precedent for the production countries in the lead? Armegon (talk) 22:27, 12 June 2018 (UTC):[reply]

Hey @Armegon:, normally I wouldn't think two is overkill. But its the current standard with [[MOS:FILM]. For distributors, its to not make the infobox and overkill. I think currently what we are doing with multiple production companies in the lead is explaining it in the lead. Like, we can say somewhere that as both countries came in to fund it, its a Japanese and American co-production or whatever. Something like that should work. Great work on the article otherwise! I'm happy to see the Big G's older films look so shiny and cited! Andrzejbanas (talk) 11:31, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! But I have found other film articles that seem to also include the two production companies in the lead like Monster Zero did, such as Atlantic City (1980 film), Blade Runner, and Enter the Dragon. The leads for Blade Runner and Enter the Dragon begin with "...is an American-Hong Kong film" etc. I also believe it benefits the articles because Toho's sci-fi films are commonly perceived as Japanese productions. Only three of them were Japanese-American co-productions and it would be essential to illustrate that fact in the first sentence of the lead. Like I said, 2 is not exactly bloating or overkill and WP:FILMDIST allows 2 for its section if only two exists. I think that should also be extended to the lead if only two production companies produced the film and like I stated above, it seems other film articles follow that extension as well. Armegon (talk) 20:29, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't really matter how many other film articles do it. The current rules as I stated say we shouldn't. If you'd like the rule changed, I'd suggest bringing it up at WP:FILM, or MOS:FILM's talk page. Andrzejbanas (talk) 21:55, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hard Boiled is a heroic bloodshed movie

I'm just going by what TV Tropes says. Isn't an example of the movie being one involving Tequila talking to a baby he's trying to protect?

I do not disagree with you, but you'll have to find a better source than TV Tropes as its not really a reliable source. Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:13, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source

Where can I find a source, then?

That's your WP:BURDEN. To figure out what consists of a reliable source, I'd read through WP:RS Andrzejbanas (talk) 02:20, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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2018 in Horror

Hi, I know Revenge premiered in 2017 but shouldn't it still be allowed on the list? It was only shown once in 2017 at a festival and not properly released until 2018. I don't know the rules for this? Lukejordan02 (talk) 21:22, 26 June 2018 (UTC) Hey there @Lukejordan02:. We generally try to list by the earliest public release. So if it was first publicly shown at a film festival, thats the release year. You can read more about this stuff at WP:FILMYEAR. Had to deal with the same thing with Auditon when I was working on it. Andrzejbanas (talk) 00:15, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info. So I should also remove The Cured? That also premiered at Toronto in 2017 like Revenge. Lukejordan02 (talk) 17:01, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch, and yes! :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:40, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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+== Editor making unsourced changes ==
+Regarding {{user|68.129.15.71}}. Their last block was for six months, and it expired on May 28. Since the time they returned to editing, it looks like the problem of bad sources is the same as always. I checked the posts at [[User talk:68.129.15.71#May 2018]] and below. (There was also a thread at [[User_talk:EdJohnston/Archive 45#68.129.15.71]] that you opened on 24 June). Do you think it's time for another block? [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 01:32, 9 July 2018 (UTC)