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Double AE report

Hi Sandstein. I wanted to ask you if it's acceptable to made the EXACTLY SAME report twice if you don't like what the previous administrator ruled in the original report. How can you be sanctioned for the same incident if you were acquitted before? Could you please intervene? Thanks--יניב הורון (Yaniv) (talk) 20:22, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

We're not a court of law. In practice, admins will only remove AE reports or sanction complainants if the repeated complaints are considered disruptive. Sandstein 20:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

But this is exactly the same report than you closed previously.--יניב הורון (Yaniv) (talk) 20:36, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

It's about the grammar

This by Drmies. Sandstein said it correctly - “unlike me” is adverbial, no need for a reflective. 👵🏻 ✍🏻 🔤 📚 🤓 ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 01:32, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Policy question

Hi Sandstein,

I'm wondering if you can reflect on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Discretionary_sanctions#Dismissing_an_enforcement_request this for me with regard to an admin re-opening an AE. I have just been topic banned after my AE was reopened. Does this case finding apply to admins, not just editors as Drmies has suggested? If so does your edit summary inviting others to reopen the case override the finding? Thanks in advance, petrarchan47คุก 18:25, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

I am frankly not interested enough in the matter to figure this out, sorry. Sandstein 18:40, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

...Or, on reflection: The issue seems to be moot because I noted in my closure that I do not object to action by other admins. Sandstein 18:47, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

No worries, thanks for responding. petrarchan47คุก 21:03, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#יניב_הורון

I feel that an indef ban is too harsh here. Something like 3 months should have been enough to give this editor a chance to mitigate his behavior and become more experienced in the ways of Wikipedia. Debresser (talk) 07:16, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Especially since this was opened just today. I for one received a notice about this complaint just 10 minutes ago. Also note that no other admins have yet have time to express their opinion, and in view of the seriousness of this forum, admins at WP:AE should preferably make consensus decisions. Debresser (talk) 07:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Your view is noted, but I disagree. AE actions are unilateral and do not require discussion or consensus by either admins or other users. Discussion and consensus are, however, a factor if there is an appeal. Sandstein 10:18, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Proposal at AE

Sandstein, I would like to mentor Yaniv. I have made a statement at AE outlining terms, and I note that the AE has not yet been closed on the page. I would request that you allow this proposal to stand on the record, and to see if it is an acceptable alternative that the community can consider. Simon Adler (talk) 14:01, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, not accepted. I do not know you and do not have the time to supervise any such arrangement. In any case, it is my view that people who want to edit controversial topic areas such as WP:AC/DS topics need to be competent enough to be able to do so on their own. Sandstein 14:08, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Appeal based on mentoring

Noted, in which case I would request that you would consider an appeal based on my proposal, which Yaniv should himself of course make. Would you be amenable to that? I do not 'know' you either, which does not appear to be a relevant point.It could be handed over to another admin could it not, if they were amenable in any case. Simon Adler (talk) 14:09, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

As you write, any appeal must be made by the sanctioned user themselves, and I will express an opinion based on the content of any such appeal. Sandstein 14:12, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Is there a remedy available to me to dispute this decision or file a formal complaint?

Hello. Your name was offered by Drmies as some who might know the answer to this question per the discussion here. I would be grateful if you can point me in the right direction. Veritycheck✔️ (talk) 13:21, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Appeal

Please note that I have appealed my topic ban from the Arab-Israeli conflict here: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Arbitration enforcement action appeal by פֿינצטערניש פֿינצטערניש (talk) 13:35, 22 September 2018 (UTC)