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*'''Comment''' – [[iPhoneography]] has nothing worth salvaging from it. It ranges across a number of topics, the vast majority of it inconsequential including [[WP:NOTAMANUAL]], largely unsourced. It does not make a case for the existence of iPhoneography, nor indeed phoneography, as a thing. -[[User:Lopifalko|Lopifalko]] ([[User talk:Lopifalko|talk]]) 17:00, 19 March 2019 (UTC) |
*'''Comment''' – [[iPhoneography]] has nothing worth salvaging from it. It ranges across a number of topics, the vast majority of it inconsequential including [[WP:NOTAMANUAL]], largely unsourced. It does not make a case for the existence of iPhoneography, nor indeed phoneography, as a thing. -[[User:Lopifalko|Lopifalko]] ([[User talk:Lopifalko|talk]]) 17:00, 19 March 2019 (UTC) |
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**I just added several RS to the article including NYTimes, National Geographic, WaPo, PetaPixel, 9to5Mac, etc. I've changed my iVote to speedy. <u>I would not oppose moving it to [[Phoneography]] & reversing the redirect, and not make it specific to iPhone.</u><sup>18:57, 19 March 2019 (UTC)</sup> This article can be expanded, become a DYK nom, and a GA without a great deal of difficulty. Other articles can be wikilinked to it and/or created as a result. I do wish more time was invested in locating RS before bringing articles to AfD. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme</span>]]</sup> <big>[[User talk:Atsme |👩💻]] [[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</big> 18:38, 19 March 2019 (UTC) |
**I just added several RS to the article including NYTimes, National Geographic, WaPo, PetaPixel, 9to5Mac, etc. I've changed my iVote to speedy. <u>I would not oppose moving it to [[Phoneography]] & reversing the redirect, and not make it specific to iPhone.</u><sup>18:57, 19 March 2019 (UTC)</sup> This article can be expanded, become a DYK nom, and a GA without a great deal of difficulty. Other articles can be wikilinked to it and/or created as a result. I do wish more time was invested in locating RS before bringing articles to AfD. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme</span>]]</sup> <big>[[User talk:Atsme |👩💻]] [[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</big> 18:38, 19 March 2019 (UTC) |
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::::Word. [[User:Alarichall|Alarichall]] ([[User talk:Alarichall|talk]]) 21:00, 21 March 2019 (UTC) |
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*'''Redirect''' to [[camera phone]]. [[Special:Contributions/111.68.115.165|111.68.115.165]] ([[User talk:111.68.115.165|talk]]) 05:06, 21 March 2019 (UTC) |
*'''Redirect''' to [[camera phone]]. [[Special:Contributions/111.68.115.165|111.68.115.165]] ([[User talk:111.68.115.165|talk]]) 05:06, 21 March 2019 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep'''. This subject straightforwardly meets the [[WP:GNG]] criterion 'topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject'. To show this, I've created [[IPhoneography#Further_reading]], listing nine academic publications/theses on this subject -- and a quick scholar.google.com search shows that there are lots more I could have listed. Certainly this article could be a lot better, but its notability is clear. (Just to respond to some of the comments above, surely merging [[iPhoneography]] to [[Camera phone]] would be rather like merging [[Photography]] to [[Camera]]? Likewise, Wikipedia has a rich array of articles on different kinds of photography, listed at [[Category:Photography by genre]]. iPhoneography is potentially a great contribution to these.) [[User:Alarichall|Alarichall]] ([[User talk:Alarichall|talk]]) 20:58, 21 March 2019 (UTC) |
*'''Keep'''. This subject straightforwardly meets the [[WP:GNG]] criterion 'topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject'. To show this, I've created [[IPhoneography#Further_reading]], listing nine academic publications/theses on this subject -- and a quick scholar.google.com search shows that there are lots more I could have listed. Certainly this article could be a lot better, but its notability is clear. (Just to respond to some of the comments above, surely merging [[iPhoneography]] to [[Camera phone]] would be rather like merging [[Photography]] to [[Camera]]? Likewise, Wikipedia has a rich array of articles on different kinds of photography, listed at [[Category:Photography by genre]]. iPhoneography is potentially a great contribution to these.) [[User:Alarichall|Alarichall]] ([[User talk:Alarichall|talk]]) 20:58, 21 March 2019 (UTC) |
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This is a neologism for pictures taken with a camera phone, and there is already an article for camera phone. Articles on iPhones already cover the imaging capabilities of these devices. Reliable sources certainly talk broadly about technology's impact on the practice of photography, but the term "iPhoneography" is definitely not used in the major photography references. (WP:CFORK, WP:NEO, WP:SIGCOV, WP:NOT#DICT) Qono (talk) 20:51, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 20:59, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 20:59, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 20:59, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to Camera phone. -- Hoary (talk) 06:54, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to Camera phone. Shashank5988 (talk) 15:43, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to Camera phone. -Lopifalko (talk) 20:06, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep - (edit conflict)
and merge Camera phone.The term "iPhoneography" is ubiquitous, as is iPhoneographer as seen in this online publication, andit hasthere is a notable history that can be connected [1], [2] that perhaps should be included as it adds to its encyclopedic value - to clarify...perhaps not necessary to go that far back (phonegraphy-stenography-all the way to video depositions to iPhoneography). Adding: We have Photography, Camera and various articles about types/makes of cameras. iPhotography is the start of something similar as it is/should be about the art, application and creation of photographs for the internet and all it has to offer, building from the links I included regarding the history.16:22, 19 March 2019 (UTC)Atsme 👩💻 📧 13:57, 19 March 2019 (UTC)- I'm not sure iphonelife.com is a reliable source or that their usage qualifies "iPhoneography" as a notable topic. Your two other sources are from the 19th century and are using the phrase "phonegraphy", which apparently refers "the writing of sounds", not the practice of taking pictures with an iPhone, which is what this article is about. Qono (talk) 16:18, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) with my additions/strikes that I included in my statement - hopefully it addresses the points you made at the same time. Atsme 👩💻 📧 16:24, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- Comment – iPhoneography has nothing worth salvaging from it. It ranges across a number of topics, the vast majority of it inconsequential including WP:NOTAMANUAL, largely unsourced. It does not make a case for the existence of iPhoneography, nor indeed phoneography, as a thing. -Lopifalko (talk) 17:00, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- I just added several RS to the article including NYTimes, National Geographic, WaPo, PetaPixel, 9to5Mac, etc. I've changed my iVote to speedy. I would not oppose moving it to Phoneography & reversing the redirect, and not make it specific to iPhone.18:57, 19 March 2019 (UTC) This article can be expanded, become a DYK nom, and a GA without a great deal of difficulty. Other articles can be wikilinked to it and/or created as a result. I do wish more time was invested in locating RS before bringing articles to AfD. Atsme 👩💻 📧 18:38, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- Word. Alarichall (talk) 21:00, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to camera phone. 111.68.115.165 (talk) 05:06, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. This subject straightforwardly meets the WP:GNG criterion 'topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject'. To show this, I've created IPhoneography#Further_reading, listing nine academic publications/theses on this subject -- and a quick scholar.google.com search shows that there are lots more I could have listed. Certainly this article could be a lot better, but its notability is clear. (Just to respond to some of the comments above, surely merging iPhoneography to Camera phone would be rather like merging Photography to Camera? Likewise, Wikipedia has a rich array of articles on different kinds of photography, listed at . iPhoneography is potentially a great contribution to these.) Alarichall (talk) 20:58, 21 March 2019 (UTC)