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: Hello, which Orbats you want? and to send you the files I will need your email address. Please use the "Email this user" link in Wikipedia's menu on the left to send me your email address and the kind of files you want. Cheers, [[User:Noclador|noclador]] ([[User talk:Noclador#top|talk]]) 19:33, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
: Hello, which Orbats you want? and to send you the files I will need your email address. Please use the "Email this user" link in Wikipedia's menu on the left to send me your email address and the kind of files you want. Cheers, [[User:Noclador|noclador]] ([[User talk:Noclador#top|talk]]) 19:33, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
:: {{U|Noclador}}, I have sent you an email. [[User:SmartyPants22|SmartyPants22]] ([[User talk:SmartyPants22|talk]]) 14:54, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
:: {{U|Noclador}}, I have sent you an email. [[User:SmartyPants22|SmartyPants22]] ([[User talk:SmartyPants22|talk]]) 14:54, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

== 50th Armored Division ==

Do you realise who created this article in the first place? How carefully I've tried to piece together the scraps on how the division was organised? I do *NOT* appreciate you coming in with some unsourced listing you have dug up from whereever, and then trying to falsify the references by saying the inf/cav/armor regimental lineages provide references for which battalions go in which brigades!!
Keep your false unsourced obsession with 1989 orders of battle OFF the National Guard divisional pages!! REFERENCE THEM PROPERLY, ONLY AS FAR AS THE SOURCES CAN TAKE YOU!! Otherwise I will remove every listing from every NG division. Keep your half-sourced guesses on how NATO armies were organised in 1989 on your own listings pages!! [[User:Buckshot06|Buckshot06]] [[User_talk:Buckshot06|(talk)]] 13:54, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

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Structure of the Italian Air Force in 1989

Hi, Noclador! When you have some time, could you also make an article about the AMI in 1989? I am particularly curious about that, because an Italian TV series has actually instilled in me a passion for aviation. It was from that exact year, but our national tv broadcasted it in 1993 ~ 94 at the time when I was 8 or 9 and it made a huge impression on me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foifxHVWM54). As you come from Italy I hope you would be able to come to that information easier. I have tried to compile it miself, without much luck. Greetings! B.Velikov (talk) 12:24, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A yes, Aquile. I was more a fan of the series that dealt with the army. As for the AMI in 1989... so far I have no definite source for the 1989 structure. And now with ever less time for wikipedia... don't know if/when I can do such an article. What I can recommend is this German wiki article, as it is detailed, good and well sourced: de:Geschichte der italienischen Luftstreitkräfte#Aeronautica Militare and below is the information I have as of now. noclador (talk) 22:39, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

1st Air Region


56° Gruppo I.T. di Ca’ Tron (VE) 59° di Vittorio Veneto-Monte Pizzoc (TV)

7° Reparto I.T. di Vicenza 64° Bassano del Grappa-Monte Grappa (VI) 66° di Tonezza del Cimone-Monte Toraro (VI)

3rd Air Region

* Nuclear weapons capable unit.

Other units

ORBAT of 1st (UK) Division

Hi - Please could you look at the message below posted to my talk page. Many thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 16:19, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again,
I noticed that the wire diagram showing the ORBAT of 1(UK)Div on the page List of units and formations of the British Army 2019 is incorrect.
Structure of 1st (UK) Division under Army 2020 Refine (click image to enlarge)
There has been some re-jigging of units since the diagram was produced. 1R IRISH and 3PWRR have left 7th Inf Bde and 1 RIFLES and 6 RIFLES have joined it; this is correctly shown in the text on that page.
I don't know the position so far as the other brigades in the Div are concerned. The Div has also been augmented with several CS and CSS brigades in order to make it self-sustaining and deployable as a division. Again, these are listed in the text but the image does not show the changes.
Is it possible to notify whoever produced the diagram and ask them to amend it?
Conn
Mr Benn (talk) 15:24, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, comment. British Forces Cyprus is now under 1st UK Division?! Or is that incorrect. So many new changes. Need reliable sources.
Also based on your graphics, you eliminated 102 Log Brigade - it has not dibanded as yet. And Maybe a graph for Regional Command for 1st MP Brigade and the other brigade's sake? BlueD954 (talk) 03:37, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't regional brigades just some administrative commands now? noclador (talk) 16:48, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You mean Regional Command. That controls 38 and 160 brigade. BlueD954 (talk) 06:13, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - 11th Brigade commands British Forces Brunei [1] BlueD954 (talk) 04:54, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Orbats - diagrams

Dear Noclador, May I ask: What programme do you use for creating this excellent organigrams? I have the need for creating similar ones and it would be a great support of you could tell me how to do so.

THank you, Best Regards

K. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roessler50 (talk • contribs) 09:35, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, thank you for the compliment. The whole work is done with photoshop. I started out with it back in 2006 and stayed with it. What kind of graphics you plan to do? I can send you some of the psd files if you let me know what armies interest you. cheers, noclador (talk) 17:44, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Italy#Template:WikiProject Italy

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Italy#Template:WikiProject Italy. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 19:10, 18 November 2019 (UTC)Template:Z48[reply]

Thanks

For your involvement in the Italian Desert War articles, they have been distinctly improved and I've learnt a lot from your efforts. That site (issuu) with the IO histories is going to help a lot too. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 09:14, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Keith-264: You're welcome :-) and thank you for appreciating my work. The Italian Army's History Office has published incredible volumes about the army's histories and all the ones, which are out of print they put on Issuu. Be it the official history of the army aviation [2] or all the volumes of the official World War I history [3], which so far is 19 books with nearly 16,000 pages (1918 they are still scanning). As for North Africa - all 9 volumes are online since October:
  • Volume I Sidi el Barrani - Part One
  • Volume I Sidi el Barrani - Part Two
  • Volume II Tobruk - Part One
  • Volume II Tobruk - Part Two
  • Volume III El Alamein - Part One
  • Volume III EL Alamein - Part Two
  • Volume III EL Alamein - Part Three
  • Volume IV Enfidaville - Part One
  • Volume IV Enfidaville - Part Two
And there are English translations of these books by the Italian Army, which are now coming online two. For now you can find these two on Issuu:
My focus is on the army's regiments, for which I am writing articles now, but every time I find information that should go into other articles I will add that info. noclador (talk) 13:02, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks [4] Here's a translation of the Austro-Humgarian OH just in case you need it. Iv'e got links to the Canadian, Australian and New Zealand OHs too if you need them. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 13:14, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[5] N Africa maps here too. Keith-264 (talk) 13:59, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tobruk

@Keith-264: Interesting! I will look at the Austrian stuff. I started the article British capture of Tobruk, because that battle needs its own article. Going for dinner now, so will add more stuff/details later. If you feel like working on the article already, please go ahead. cheers, noclador (talk) 17:23, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nafziger

[6] has orders of battle for lots of wars. Keith-264 (talk) 19:46, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That's a lot of Orbat's! Will take an afternoon to look at them :-) noclador (talk) 16:15, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In appreciation

 The WikiChevrons 
It is with great pleasure that I award you your fifth Wikichevrons. These are for your continuing work on military topics, and specifically for your great work on currently serving Italian formations. I hope that there are many more to come. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:33, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild: Thank you! :-) An unexpected but wonderful appreciation of my work. I will be doing most of the Italian army units active since 1945 over the coming weeks... some 300 in all. Thank you again for your kind words and the Wikichevrons! :-) noclador (talk) 15:18, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ukraine Lives!!

I have just sent this message to Peacemaker67:
Half the Russian justifications for intervening in Ukraine reference the far-right groups that fought with the Germans. You will note that the WP:SIGNPOST reports now a campaign by the Ukr Govt to add data to Wikipedia. Things are going to hot up on those pages. I know you've done excellently with similar fraught pages regarding the Balkans; can you sweep through, at least, the Ukrainian pages? If you need help, please ask, especially Noclador, who will rally to the cause, Nick-D, and I.. Buckshot06 (talk) 08:07, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I'll have a look. I watchlist the Ukrainian Waffen-SS division and Ukrainian collaboration with Nazi Germany already. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:27, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have a bunch of Euromaidan related pages on my Watchlist. Will keep an eye out. Knowing the Ukrainian government... this is likely a bunch of hot air and not much will happen. noclador (talk) 08:34, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't care less about how much the Ukrainians do. I'm more worried about the Internet Research Agency#Organized anti-Ukrainian campaign or its affiliates, who will now start swarming all over En-wiki, no doubt.. Buckshot06 (talk) 10:46, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It's the Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists and most especially the Ukrainian Insurgent Army pages that I believe may be most under threat. Buckshot06 (talk) 10:58, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Italian resistance movement navbox (draft)

Greetings - I noticed you are listed as a participant in the Italian military history task force, I'm leaving a message for all participants. I have drafted 3 versions of a navbox covering the Italian resistance 1943-45 which can be seen here (in my sandbox). If you have time, your comments or suggestions on style, content etc, would be welcomed; I've created a section on my talk page. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 10:27, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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ORBATs

I noticed that you use photoshop for your ORBAT diagrams; could you possibly send me a few British ORBAT .psd files, so I could attempt my own? Thanks! SmartyPants22 (talk) 15:54, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, which Orbats you want? and to send you the files I will need your email address. Please use the "Email this user" link in Wikipedia's menu on the left to send me your email address and the kind of files you want. Cheers, noclador (talk) 19:33, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Noclador, I have sent you an email. SmartyPants22 (talk) 14:54, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

50th Armored Division

Do you realise who created this article in the first place? How carefully I've tried to piece together the scraps on how the division was organised? I do *NOT* appreciate you coming in with some unsourced listing you have dug up from whereever, and then trying to falsify the references by saying the inf/cav/armor regimental lineages provide references for which battalions go in which brigades!! Keep your false unsourced obsession with 1989 orders of battle OFF the National Guard divisional pages!! REFERENCE THEM PROPERLY, ONLY AS FAR AS THE SOURCES CAN TAKE YOU!! Otherwise I will remove every listing from every NG division. Keep your half-sourced guesses on how NATO armies were organised in 1989 on your own listings pages!! Buckshot06 (talk) 13:54, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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