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287 mm

Track gauge: 287 mmThis box:  

• {{Track gauge}} list definition: (Not defined, not in the list)
• Unit conversion (calculation): 287 mm converts to 11.2992 inches (or 11+5⁄16 inches)
• Article: List_of_rail_transport_modelling_scale_standards#Live_steam
• Defined in source: ?
• Currently in sandbox: 287 mm
• Note: "1:5 scale, Used in Sweden. Also called the ÅHÅ scale."
• Conclusion:

References

Needs sourcing. Started Talk. -DePiep (talk) 12:03, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

1 ft 11 5/8 in

Track gauge: 1 ft 11 5/8 inThis box:  

• {{Track gauge}} list definition: (Not defined, not in the list)
• Unit conversion (calculation): 23.625 inches converts to 600.075 mm
• Article: Bala Lake Railway
• Defined in source: ?
• Currently in sandbox: 1 ft 11 5/8 in
• Note: Suggests: defined imperial; 600mm rolling stock?
• Conclusion:

References

• Needs research, sources. Also, the "600 mm" is weird for a Welsh track. -DePiep (talk) 23:18, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 14 May 2020

The following templates with lk=on generate a clickable link to former article and current redirect 1495 mm gauge railways:

• 4 ft 10+7⁄8 in (1,495 mm) ( {{Track gauge|58.875in|lk=on}} )
• 4 ft 10+7⁄8 in (1,495 mm) ( {{RailGauge|toronto|lk=on}} )

Could you please change that link from "1495 mm gauge railways" to "Toronto-gauge railways". For background discussion on this request, please see: Talk:Toronto streetcar system#Track gauge. Thanks. TheTrolleyPole (talk) 21:09, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Please help me out. Do we understand that both "58.875 in" (4 ft 10+7⁄8 in) and "Toronto gauge" (4 ft 10+7⁄8 in) refer to the same, physical gauge width? Also, that they are mutually excluding (i.e., no other gauges by name of width), refer to this one?

And if this is the case, you propose to change the target link from Redirect [[1495 mm gauge railways]] to its R-target [[Toronto-gauge railways]] then?

Could be done, btw, skipping the ridrect is trivial. -DePiep (talk) 22:12, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:48, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. TheTrolleyPole (talk) 23:19, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Toronto gauge railways

Toronto-gauge railways For historical reasons could {{Track gauge|59in}} or {{Track gauge|4ft11in}} 4 ft 11 in (1,499 mm) or 4 ft 11 in (1,499 mm) be added? {{cvt|4|ft|11|in|mm|0}} 4 ft 11 in (1,499 mm) It has already {{Track gauge|58.75in}} 4 ft 10+3⁄4 in (1,492 mm) Peter Horn User talk 12:02, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

That is for Toronto-gauge railways#Variations in Toronto gauge Peter Horn User talk 12:12, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Track gauge: 4ft11inThis box:  

• {{Track gauge}} list definition: 4 ft 11 in (1,499 mm) Toronto gauge
• Unit conversion (calculation): 59 inches converts to 1,498.60 mm
• Article: Toronto-gauge_railways#Variations_in_Toronto_gauge
• Content category: Category:4 ft 10⅞ in gauge railways (as Toronto gauge)
• Defined in source: "In order to accommodate this arrangement, the track gauge had to be 4 feet, 11 inches."
• Currently in sandbox: 4 ft 11 in (1,499 mm) Toronto gauge
• Note: see also 4 feet 10 and 3/4 inches, below: sources differ.
• Conclusion:

References

Track gauge: 4 ft 10 3/4 inThis box:  

• {{Track gauge}} list definition: 4 ft 10+3⁄4 in (1,492 mm)
• Unit conversion (calculation): 58.75 inches converts to 1,492.25 mm
• Article: Toronto-gauge_railways#Variations_in_Toronto_gauge
• Defined in source: The street railways were built to the horse car gauge of 4 feet 10 and 3/4 inches.
• Currently in sandbox: 4 ft 10+3⁄4 in (1,492 mm)
• Conclusion:

References

@DePiep:, Hello,
Please see above. Peter Horn User talk 03:28, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

@Peter Horn: Working on this. 59in looks like a good source, so inclusion is appropriate. Nice catch! -DePiep (talk) 16:04, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

@DePiep:, Thanks, I have been looking at this undocumented track gauge for almost as long as I have been involved with the Toronto-gauge railways page and that has been quite a while. Peter Horn User talk 22:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

@Peter Horn: A great catch: well documented so I approve. Will happen. -DePiep (talk) 22:47, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

I corrected the link Peter Horn User talk 01:35, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Y 4ft11in added to sandbox. Unique network (Toronto), historical. -DePiep (talk) 10:46, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 1 July 2020

Please replace all code in Module:Track gauge/data with its /sandbox code.

Changes: added 4 ft 11 in gauge. Sourced, discussed & consensus: see #Toronto gauge railways above. DePiep (talk) 10:49, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

 Done @DePiep: I changed some punctuation, though. Let me know if ok. Special:Diff/956720303/967444671 Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 08:42, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

@DePiep:, @Matt Fitzpatrick: Earlier today I added 4 ft 11 in (1,499 mm) to the article. Thanks to everyone. Peter Horn User talk 18:15, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

visualhide removal

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20 in (508 mm)

Track gauge: 20 inThis box:  

• {{Track gauge}} list definition: 20 in (508 mm)
• Unit conversion (calculation): 20 inches converts to 508.000 mm
• Article:
• Defined in source:
• Currently in sandbox: 20 in (508 mm)
• Conclusion:

References

{{Track gauge|20in|lk=on}} 20 in (508 mm), could this be linked to minimum-gauge railway Peter Horn User talk 17:10, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

In {{Track gauge}}, a target link is to a gauge-specific article, which has sources for that gauge. That is, defining sources, proving actual usage of the definition. For example: "5 ft (1,524 mm)". For the 20-inch gauge, that could be one of the articles Category:20_in_gauge_railways_in_England (3) (only 2 are categorised). Quite often I see articles that use this setup: "20 in (508 mm) (minimum gauge)". -DePiep (talk) 17:34, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

So the reply is, Peter Horn can be done for a dedicated article on the 20-inch track (with sources), not for the minimum gauge article. -DePiep (talk) 20:59, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Then could we eventually have 20 in and 200 mm railways 21:31, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

So far we only have North Bay Railway, Woburn Safari Park#Railway and minimum-gauge railway Peter Horn User talk 22:00, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

@DePiep: Add Coronado Railroad Peter Horn User talk 22:06, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

And Template:Navbox track gauge Peter Horn User talk 22:15, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

And Shipley Glen Tramway Peter Horn User talk 22:42, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

1. About a new article: 20in fine, but does not correspond with 200mm(?!). And 200mm is not even defined as a gauge.

2. Could you add Coronado to the right subcategory anyway? Might need a new category.

3. Don't understand the navbox line.

4. (btw, Peter, your request does not sound friendly, I suggest you start a sentence with 'c/would you' etc).

-DePiep (talk) 22:18, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Mea culpa Peter Horn User talk 22:42, 29 December 2020 (UTC)