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:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:1815 establishments in Ceylon]] to [[:Category:1815 establishments in British Ceylon]]
:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:1815 establishments in Ceylon]] to [[:Category:1815 establishments in British Ceylon]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' The category covering the 1815-1948 time period is [[British Ceylon]] (and the [[Dominion of Ceylon]] for 1948-1972). We need to distinguish between the British colonization and [[Portuguese Ceylon]] and [[Dutch Ceylon]] and [[Vannimai]] amongst others. [[User:Ricky81682|Ricky81682]] ([[User talk:Ricky81682|talk]]) 05:51, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' The category covering the 1815-1948 time period is [[British Ceylon]] (and the [[Dominion of Ceylon]] for 1948-1972). We need to distinguish between the British colonization and [[Portuguese Ceylon]] and [[Dutch Ceylon]] and [[Vannimai]] amongst others. [[User:Ricky81682|Ricky81682]] ([[User talk:Ricky81682|talk]]) 05:51, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''', while there have been various kingdoms and various foreign occupations in the history of Sri Lanka that all had different names, it is probably a lot clearer to most Wikipedia readers and editors to use the name of Sri Lanka throughout the entire history of the island. 12:05, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
* '''Alt rename''' to [[:Category:1815 establishments in Sri Lanka]], while there have been various kingdoms and various foreign occupations in the history of Sri Lanka that all had different names, it is probably a lot clearer to most Wikipedia readers and editors to use the name of Sri Lanka throughout the entire history of the island. 12:05, 13 June 2015 (UTC)


==== Category:Murdered ice hockey players ====
==== Category:Murdered ice hockey players ====

Revision as of 12:07, 13 June 2015

June 11

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Kingdoms

Nominator's rationale: Overlaps completely with Category:Current monarchies. Laurel Lodged (talk) 21:27, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Reply A circular argument. The only reason that the UK is in Kingdoms is because somebody (who knows????) removed the re-direct from Monarchies. The reason that the re-direct was there was of course because of the perfect overlap. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:32, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment It should not be restricted to current anything, since there's nothing in the category name showing temporal restrictions. However, we have Category:Empires and Category:Emirates, existing under Category:Monarchies, so I don't see why we wouldn't have a Kingdoms category. Not all monarchies are kingdoms, since they don't all have kings. Monaco is a monarchy and a principality, and has a ruling prince, not a king or queen; Japan is a monarchy, but it has an emperor, not a king. -- 70.51.202.183 (talk) 04:52, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Reply You have a good point about "current". The rule is that there should be a category for "Former Foo" as a child of "Foo". This means that there should be no such cat as "Current Foo" since all current entities are assumed to be part of Foo. So in fact Category:Current monarchies should be deleted. 20:25, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Reply That's not my understanding. A monarch is a person. The state ruled by the monarch is variously called the realm or principality or arch-duchy. The polity of that state is a monarchy. So "monarchies" refers to states whose polity is that of a monarchy, not the person of the monarch him/herself. Laurel Lodged (talk) 18:42, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Category:10th-century establishments in Ceylon

Nominator's rationale: We should move these to Sri Lanka as the main name. The name Ceylon (disambiguation) referring to Sri Lanka starts at 1505 for Portuguese Ceylon, 1656 for Dutch Ceylon, 1815 for British Ceylon and 1948 for the Dominion of Ceylon. Sri Lanka is probably best as the historical name. Ricky81682 (talk) 06:01, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, while there have been various kingdoms in the history of Sri Lanka that all had different names, it is probably a lot clearer to most Wikipedia readers and editors to use the name of Sri Lanka throughout the entire history of the island. 12:04, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Category:1815 establishments in Ceylon

Nominator's rationale: The category covering the 1815-1948 time period is British Ceylon (and the Dominion of Ceylon for 1948-1972). We need to distinguish between the British colonization and Portuguese Ceylon and Dutch Ceylon and Vannimai amongst others. Ricky81682 (talk) 05:51, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alt rename to Category:1815 establishments in Sri Lanka, while there have been various kingdoms and various foreign occupations in the history of Sri Lanka that all had different names, it is probably a lot clearer to most Wikipedia readers and editors to use the name of Sri Lanka throughout the entire history of the island. 12:05, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Category:Murdered ice hockey players

Nominator's rationale: This is a trivial intersection. With the exception of Alcide Laurin, none of the deaths of the people currently so categorized was ice hockey-related, and Laurin's death was ruled not to have been murder. Huon (talk) 00:11, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]