User talk:Targetter

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Hey!

Hi Targetter. I noticed you patrolling new pages and clicked onto your userpage. You may be a relatively new Wikipedian, but you are certainly a positive contributor, and I'd love to see more of you around. Have you tried using Voice of All's non-admin JS tools to aid in recent change patrolling? I'm sure you'd find them useful (I certainly do). Anyway, see you around. Dios! haz (user talk) 18:36, 24 June 2006

Call for Help

I have a question for administrators. Can I recommend that an admin take a look at a page to make sure it falls under the category of a vanity page before I tag it as such and possibly make a mistake in doing so? If so, where do I make my request?

Admins are really only needed for admin things (protection, blocking, deleting) - I think you just want any user to check for a mistake. There isn't a central place to ask for this that I can think of, so it's probably best to ask on the talk page of the article in question. It is a wiki, so if you make a mistake hopefully someone will fix it.--Commander Keane 21:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

redirect for deletion

Don't bother setting up a discussion for Sir Winston Boogie that redirected to his userpage. Userpage redirects fall under the criteria for speedy deletions. Joyous! | Talk 20:31, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Censorship

I've blocked him for 24 hours for 3RR violations. I'd recommend trying to get him to discuss his point of view (and maybe explaining yours) while he's gone. --InShaneee 01:53, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Userbox scorpion.jpg)

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Thanks for uploading Image:Userbox scorpion.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image can be used under a fair use license. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. —Mira 05:00, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Ahoy!

Hello, Targetter. I just wanted to say thanks for adding that comment to my talk page. I'm already having a great time here. Cheers. -- GarnetPrincess 00:31, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

WoW

Willy on Wheels did a complicated pagemove attack on Turkey, and in an effort to fix it, I accidentally created a duplicate copy called Turkey (Country). I think the one with the longer history Turkey (Country) is the correct copy, and should be moved to Turkey, but Turkey is all screwed up from that attack. Can an Admin fix it, please??? Targetter 01:41, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

No problem, Targetter. It seems Willy has learned some new tricks :( - Tangotango 01:49, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Snake Liquid

Not really a personal attac and I've never been to happy about blocking due to civility problems.Geni 02:39, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

You read my mind.

I've just finished writing a long explanation at the talk page about why people prefer Fair Use over Free Use. I've seen it in other articles, and the whole matter sucks if you ask me, but WP doesn't care if policy sucks. You do it because it's good for Wikipedia. In the YTMND community, they hate Eric Bauman's tactics. I let them know that if the Happycat image stays the way it is, they'll probably end up doin what Bauman does: sell others' content without permission, royalties and credit. --LBMixPro^{<Speak|on|it!>}

Your {{helpme}} tag

I've expended nearly every resource I could muster to ward off the YTMND vandals who continue their NEDM chants in the Talk:British Shorthair page. I would like to know if there's any way to speedily close a debate and have an administrator make some sort of final ruling over the issue. If there is, could that method be placed on my talk page?

The best thing to do, in my opinion, would be to bring it up on WP:AN/I and ask instead of using the helpme tag. While being an admin is fun and all and you get perks like the discount at McDonald's, sadly we're not allowed to speedy-close debates like this. :( ~Kylu (u|t) 03:32, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Happycat

Thanks for your attention to the NEDM vandalism. It is unfortunate that some YTMND'ers choose to vandalize Wikipedia as part of fads. I have left some comments at Talk:British Shorthair. Is there anything I can do to help? --Ptkfgs 05:33, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the backup, ptkfgs. I'm just about wikibroken from this. What I'm gonna need is some more admin support and hopefully some sort of final ruling about the issue from Someone! I know Wikipedia is a tough place to do it. From what I understand, not even admins can give final rulings on debates. I don't see this going to the Mediation Committee since I doubt the YTMNDers would be willing to negotiate. You're right. It's fad-related vandalism, that somehow slipped its way into a debate. If anything else, I need some general advice.

Also, I don't know if it's possible, but is there any way to detect whether or not a lot of these editors first set foot in Wikipedia after this fight broke out? There's stuff on YTMND encouraging attacks on Wikipedia as a result of a comment by JzG. See here-> [1] --Targetter 05:45, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

As far as I know, the only way for a non-admin to determine when a user joined wikipedia is by looking at the contrib history of the user. I think getting the page semi-protected was a good plan -- at least that way newly-created users can't vandalize the page. I doubt that this will go on long enough for any accounts created during this period to become eligible to edit the page (YTMND has a pretty short fad turnover), but if it does, I think requesting full protection would help as well.

Posting on AN/I was probably a good plan too, since it's (seemingly) not just a case of a few IP's that need to be blocked. Hopefully some admin will look into the situation (this time of night is a slow period for admin action, in my experience) and if it's just 5-10 IP's they can be handled for personal attacks or vandalism.

In any case, I doubt this will be a long-term problem. --Ptkfgs 05:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I've been watching this since the beggining,it could be worse(such as the picture of a penis in the front page once with the Bulbasaur featured article). In any cause I doubt YTMND to cause a war over this,they've been quiet. I applaud you and the rest for doing a good job. However it seems JzG(or whatever) is actually provoking them. And the trolling must stop,don't you agree? --The jazz musician 18:44, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

When you act like you're in sole control of an article, is when people point the finger and call you an elitist. Probably also why YTMNDers made a target of you. It's a problem with a lot of people here that act "my way or the highway" when it comes to article editing.--Snake Liquid 22:28, 30 July 2006 (UTC)