Wikipedia talk:Featured and good topic candidates

Request for comment on Featured Topic candidate

@Wtfiv and Chariotsacha: We're tantalizingly close to having the articles for a Featured Topic:Frederick the Great here. We've got Frederick the Great, Silesian Wars, and War of the Bavarian Succession at FA, and First Partition of Poland at GA, covering the biography and the major events of his reign. In order to complete the topic, it looks to me like we also need Sexuality of Frederick the Great, probably Sanssouci, possibly Equestrian statue of Frederick the Great, and probably not any of the other articles in Category:Frederick the Great. Specifically, I don't think we need Tomb of Frederick the Great (in fact, I think this article should probably be deleted as non-notable). What do others think? Which articles do y'all think should be in this topic? -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 19:36, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

@Bryanrutherford0:, I agree with your picks. I also think we should merge Tomb of Frederick the Great into his main article, its a pretty redundant article to have and most of the information on it could easily be squished into the Frederick the Great article. Let me know what you think! Sexuality of Frederick the great I think is the best article to start improving, its central to Fredericks life and would absolutely need to be in the featured topic. The statue article I'm not sure frankly, the article is well made and I believe stands on its own quite well. Especially considering it is not mentioned in his main article. Anyways, Sannsouci would be vital. I remember @Vami IV:, a cooridnator for wiki-project Germany was interested in making it a fully fledged Featured Article as well. So we may have some extra hands here! Chariotsacha (talk) 20:25, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

@Chariotsacha: This does sound like fun! And it sounds like something to jump into. I know that Vami_IV wanted to clean up Sanssouci, so I think starting there might be the easiest, if there are the sources. I'm glad we kept the sexuality article, it has great promise, but it is quite weedy and really needs some structuring. Though if we could get it into shape, it might help out with all the constant reverts on the Frederick page. (though I doubt it, few of the people who revert probably click further.) Unfortunately, I've got myself caught up in another article in Featured Article rescue (saving an article from losing its status) that was worse off than poor Frederick when we started, so I won't be able to take a lead, though I definitely don't mind being support, and doing what I can, particularly citation-wise! Though I think I like article "rescuing" better, I'll gladly do what I can to get them all featured! Vami could take Sansoucci; Chariotsacha, would you be willing to do something like the Equestrian statue for starters? Thanks for opening this conversation, Bryan! Wtfiv (talk) 01:31, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

@Wtfiv and Bryanrutherford0: I could definitely handle the equestrian statue article for sure! Its image placement is pretty terrible and it needs a tone cleanup, which are two things I love fixing. I am very much also interested in polishing the sexuality article but I think that can wait a bit if necessary, although I do feel it's probably the most important of the three. If we hear from Vami about Sanssouci I'll be on board that as well! In the meantime, I'll be working on the statue article. Cheers! Chariotsacha (talk) 03:17, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

I'm game for Sanssouci, though at the moment my focuses are pretty divided. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 17:07, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

I'd love to help with a merger between the two statue articles, if the discussion concludes that way, and I've also started a merger discussion on the tomb article. I have some physical sources on Frederick that I can use to try to contribute some content with citations to the sexuality article. Thanks for the replies! I think Good/Featured Topics are cool, so I'd love to assemble all this work we've done into one. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 17:12, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

GT to FT

If a good topic gets to the situation where at least half of its articles are featured, is there a process to update it to featured topic? Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 20:40, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

There's no formal process (like, a new nomination); I think you or anyone who notices can just move it from the GT list to the FT list? -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 20:43, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

I believe that a handy bot turns up and makes it happen. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:02, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

I looked at the revision history of Wikipedia:Featured topics, and I don't see any bot activity; I think it's usually Gamer who's moving them manually, as in this edit. Regardless, I think it's okay for anyone to do it who notices the need. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 21:21, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, both! I've gone ahead and moved Wikipedia:Featured topics/Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln to the FT page as I think it qualifies... Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 02:29, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Closure query

This is probably going to come across as me being impatient, for which apologies, but my nom Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/Mercenary War/archive1 has now been open for eight weeks and has received seven straight supports and no quibbles. Can I ask if the F&GT coordinators have guidelines as to how long a nomination needs to be open and/or how many supports it needs before promotion is considered? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:56, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

For what it's worth, as a former delegate here, I have volunteered to manually close any nomination and do the leg-work surrounding that, if any of the current delegates want to merely give the thumbs up on any that are open. I know there's a bot being trialled but it doesn't seem to have sped up the process to any extent, and I don't mind doing the bot's work if anyone in a position to approve a close wants to usher anything onwards. 𝄠ʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ꭗ 22:03, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I was moving slowly as we are testing the new bot and the other coords are more or less inactive (at least at FGTC). Grapple X, actually would you mind doing the demotion process for Wikipedia:Featured topic removal candidates/Inside No. 9/archive1? There's some instructions here: User:Spy-cicle/FTC/Demote Instructions, I can do some of the other demotions ones in a little bit. Aza24 (talk) 22:23, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

No worries. A functional bot would obviously be a huge boon so hopefully it pans out well. I'll get that topic sorted now sure. 𝄠ʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ꭗ 22:40, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Should be Inside No. 9 processed now; let me know if I've missed anything. If it went smoothly you can foist the others on me and I'll be able to get through them during tomorrow. 𝄠ʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ꭗ 23:30, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

• At the risk of wearing out my welcome, Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/Hundred Years' War (1345–1347)/archive1 now has six supports. Yes, I am hoping to see it promoted before the WikiCup closes on the 30th. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:21, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

In appreciation

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		By the authority vested in me by myself it gives me great pleasure to present the delegates and the director jointly and severally with this barnstar in recognition of their tireless work to keep this project going. It is appreciated. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:42, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Mercenary War

A couple of things.

1. Mercenary War is showing on it's talk page as the main article in the Punic Wars series (it's not, it is a part of it; Punic Wars is also, but correctly, showing as the main article) and as part of the Mercenary War series instead of the main article. I am loath to mess with code I don't understand, but hopefully this is easily fixable by someone?

2. The promotion of Hamilcar's victory with Naravas took the Mercenary War series to FT, from GT. Should I be doing anything to move the series appropriately?

Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:01, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Hey there. I think I fixed #1. Diff. Please let me know if I need to adjust it further. I'll let someone more experienced speak to #2. Would probably need to add an additional action to the {{Article history}} of the articles in the topic. Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 15:35, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

@User:Novem Linguae, thanks. That's fixed it. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:43, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

If a topic has 5 FAs and 5 GAs, is it a good topic or a featured topic?

I was under the impression that it is a good topic. But the code in {{Article history}} thinks this is a featured topic. What is the correct answer? Thanks. cc User:Aza24. –Novem Linguae (talk) 14:59, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

I read WP:FT? At least one half (50%) of the items are featured class as pretty clearly requiring half or more, so a FT. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:15, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes, that was the intention when it was bumped from 1/3 to 1/2, that exactly 1/2 counted as an FT; I can't find the discussion now, but at one point a decade ago there was a proposal to change it to greater than 50% at a later date, which never happened. --PresN 15:24, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'll make sure the FGTC bot follows this. Thanks for the clarification. –Novem Linguae (talk) 15:43, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

• * There was an issue that prevented the promotion bot from promoting this topic. Please solve the issue and run the bot again. The error description is: On page Wikipedia talk:Featured and good topic candidates, could not find main article name in {{Good/Featured topic box}}. NovemBot (talk) 16:05, 30 December 2021 (UTC)