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False claim - "Breathwork has no proven positive health impact other than promoting relaxation and can cause distress."

Breathwork is a practice that intakes higher levels of oxygen than what normal homeostasis efforts produce. Higher levels of oxygen have many proven health impacts other than promoting relaxation, most notably sustaining human life and improved stamina. Breathwork also focusses on nasal breathing to incorporate the filtration and absorption anatomy of human nasal paths. Breathwork strengthens the nasal paths and lungs which makes them more capable of dealing with respiratory viruses and infections. I could go on and on about the health benefits of breathwork, which is why I recommend editing the claim about having "no proven positive health impacts". Joshdagostino2020 (talk) 19:01, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source? Alexbrn (talk) 19:03, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The existing statement is supported by American Cancer Society complete guide to complementary & alternative cancer therapies that is considered reliable for Wikipedia. Breathwork should also not be confused with respiratory therapy... —Paleo Neonate – 22:46, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Clarifying: respiratory therapy of course makes no claims of cancer cures. —Paleo Neonate – 02:09, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to see this article take a strong cue from James Nestor's new book "Breath" which takes a broad look at breath science, of which there is a lot. It is a NYTimes best seller, and has received good support from the medical community. There are great studies on the impact to immune system, anxiety and mood, and athletic performance cited in the book. Here's a link: https://www.mrjamesnestor.com/breath —Zujine|talk 18:10, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It may be usable although probably not for biomedical claims unless an official medical body also supports and cites those from it, —Paleo Neonate – 02:09, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'd go a little bit further than PaleoNeonate and say that The James Nestor book "Breath" is unreliable for any medically related claims, particularly those related to breathing. from the link provided above is this little gem .. "I ended up traveling the world in an attempt to figure out what went wrong and how to fix it. The answers, I discovered, weren’t found in pulmonology labs but in the muddy digs of ancient burial sites, secret Soviet facilities, New Jersey choir schools, and the smoggy streets of Sao Paulo." there is more, but we have a million year history of broken breathing, so I'm kinda questioning how we managed to not suffocate a million years ago. -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 08:46, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Or to find the key to perfect health and immortality, considering the claims made about pranayama by some, despite the many followers, etc. —Paleo Neonate – 03:44, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll look into the source material Nestor references to include with any suggestions, but I don't think we should begin a practice of de-legitimizing a new book on the subject that this article covers. I'll propose some edits with references. I should also note here, that the term "breathwork" does cover a lot of esoteric practices as well as a good deal of BS, and I'm fine calling out the BS. However, I'm a humble person, and I respect the limits of my knowledge and do not seek to deride something that I haven't studied in depth. I found a lot of Nestor's points to be very compelling, and I thought it would be good to include in this article. Perhaps I should have started a new topic instead of adding to this one which began as a negative thread. —Zujine|talk 15:40, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The book is light years away from being a usable source. In general, health content on Wikipedia needs to be WP:MEDRS. Alexbrn (talk) 15:47, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

I'm proposing a merge of Conscious_breathing (which is largely overlap) and Rebirthing_(breathwork) which is a very short page with few sources, perhaps not notable enough for its own page. --Karinpower (talk) 04:09, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would support a merge of this, plus the Breathwork topic, but with Conscious Breathing being the resulting page and Breathwork being a section. Breathwork appears to be a subset of the former prioritising the new age elements over the historical, philosophical and clinical elements. Kev (talk) 19:09, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I hope others will weigh in on this as well. To me the terms are synonymous. Also if anyone knows if any of the more credible sources discuss this difference, that would be super helpful as ultimately we should look to sources to determine what is the term that is most in common use - and in this case, possibly the term that serves better as an umbrella for the others.--Karinpower (talk) 21:31, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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 I'm proposing a merge of [[Conscious_breathing]] (which is largely overlap) and [[Rebirthing_(breathwork)]] which is a very short page with few sources, perhaps not notable enough for its own page. --[[User:Karinpower|Karinpower]] ([[User talk:Karinpower|talk]]) 04:09, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 :I would support a merge of this, plus the [[Breathwork]] topic, but with Conscious Breathing being the resulting page and Breathwork being a section.  Breathwork appears to be a subset of the former prioritising the new age elements over the historical, philosophical and clinical elements.  [[User:Kev|Kev]] ([[User talk:Kev|talk]]) 19:09, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
+::Thanks, I hope others will weigh in on this as well. To me the terms are synonymous. Also if anyone knows if any of the more credible sources discuss this difference, that would be super helpful as ultimately we should look to sources to determine what is the term that is most in common use - and in this case, possibly the term that serves better as an umbrella for the others.--[[User:Karinpower|Karinpower]] ([[User talk:Karinpower|talk]]) 21:31, 17 February 2021 (UTC)