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There's too much junk in this article

The article should state what Bitcoin Cash is and why it was created (which it does). It could state, briefly, that there is controversy around the need to create Bitcoin - with a link to online sources that discuss the controversy, perhaps. A brief section titled "History", stating what actually happened and about a quarter of the length of the current blow-by-blow he-said/she-said history section would be reasonable.

All the rest is junk. Details of who said what about Bitcoin or Bitcoin Cash are not appropriate in an encyclopedia article. Mentioning the current price of any cryptocurrency is pointless because prices change daily. Maybe there could be links to a couple of the (many) websites that track cryptocurrency exchange rates, but even that is redundant because any search engine will find them. As for volatility of cryptocurrencies, again it is ephemeral information, anybody who wants to know what it is right now can look at the exchange-traded options or at one of the volatility indexes like BVOL24H or one of the indexes calculated by T3Index.

Does anyone seriously disagree that most of this article is inappropriate to an encyclopedia and should be deleted? Longitude2 (talk) 15:17, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why would we delete cited content? The article is not too long. We are listing historical prices in the Bitcoin article as it is encyclopedic. But I do think some style changes would probably be useful. Thoughts? Maybe we address your thoughts section by section? Jtbobwaysf (talk) 17:08, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that good sources should not be removed, but the article certainly could be reorganized. Many wikipedia articles suffer from what I call "section syndrome" where a couple editors focus on specific sections, and not the overall organization of an article. Then people come in and add a sentence, and each section becomes a list of facts. IMO the article should have a section on why BCH exists, what the unique features and philosophy is, what influenced it, and what did it influence (fork from and what forked off it). The problem with "History" sections is they become lists. If @Longitude2: does some of this in their sandbox, I'd be happy to collaborate. Beakerboy (talk) 15:02, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did some cleanup of the prose a bit today, some of it seemed to repeat itself. Please feel free to comment. Thanks! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 11:20, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Bitcoin Cash open Official Twitter Handle ( @BTCTCH ) . Zoyahssn (talk) 18:08, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Run n Fly (talk) 18:13, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting proposal

Gal Buki (talk · contribs · logs) proposed at the AfC Help Desk that the Bitcoin SV section be split into a separate page called Bitcoin SV, which is currently a redirect leading to this page. The user has already created a draft: Draft:Bitcoin SV. They didn't know how to create this split discussion, so they asked me to start it for them. There is an old AfD regarding this. Seeking consensus for this split. Curbon7 (talk) 22:39, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The new Bitcoin SV article has multiple reliable sources from published research papers, news companies not related to blockchain, the w3c Github repository and from organizations run by country states. In addition the BSV blockchain has deviated in many ways from Bitcoin Cash hence adding it as a chapter in Bitcoin Cash would not inappropriate and misleading in the parent article. torusJKL (talk) 00:17, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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 {{User3|Gal Buki}} proposed at the [[WP:AFCHELP|AfC Help Desk]] that the ''Bitcoin SV'' section be split into a separate page called ''[[Bitcoin SV]]'', which is currently a redirect leading to this page. The user has already created a draft: [[Draft:Bitcoin SV]]. They didn't know how to create this split discussion, so they asked me to start it for them. There is an [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bitcoin SV|old AfD]] regarding this. Seeking consensus for this split. [[User:Curbon7|Curbon7]] ([[User talk:Curbon7|talk]]) 22:39, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
-:The new Bitcoin SV article has multiple reliable sources from published research papers, news companies not related to blockchain, the w3c Github repository and from organizations run by country states.
+:The new Bitcoin SV article has multiple reliable sources from published research papers, news companies not related to blockchain, the w3c Github repository and from organizations run by country states. In addition the BSV blockchain has deviated in many ways from Bitcoin Cash hence adding it as a chapter in Bitcoin Cash would not inappropriate and misleading in the parent article. [[User:Gal Buki|torusJKL]] ([[User talk:Gal Buki|talk]]) 00:17, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
-:In addition the BSV blockchain has deviated in many from Bitcoin Cash hence adding it as a chapter in Bitcoin Cash would not inappropriate and misleading in the parent article. [[User:Gal Buki|torusJKL]] ([[User talk:Gal Buki|talk]]) 00:17, 24 June 2021 (UTC)